Unrestrained Capitalism Would Cause........

[NYcarbineer]

I gave you 16 trillion reasons....

I didn't ask for 16 million reasons I asked for your best example of govt being bought and paid for to pick winners and losers. Do you understand??

The fact that politicians are incessantly begging for money should about cover that.

 

[eagle1462010]

To put you on ignore, which I just did. Because you try to deny lobbyist don't influence our laws and politicians.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

I do see the difference with the oligarchs, but would not say they are not capitalists. ?

if you acquire an industry worth say 5--25% of the economy from the govt you are not a capitalist.

Capitalism would normally require millions of share holders to get the required money and the business would not be a govt protected socialist or crony capitalist enterprise. Now do you understand?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Unrestrained capitalists will behave about the same way as will unrestrained children.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

Hmm, whenmis unrestrained anything a good idea?

When you have unrestrained capitalism that's a very good idea because you don't want to restrain capitalists from fighting to please their customers and employees

If you have unrestrained Capitalism then what's to stop Big Corporations from just cannibalising smaller businesses, there would be no way smaller or even medium sized businesses would be able to compete.

"you don't want to restrain capitalists from fighting to please their customers and employees"

The main focus for them to please are their shareholders.

I support Capitalism, I wouldn't support unrestrained Capitalism.

You wouldn't support unrestrained capitalism because you don't want corporations to fight with each other to raise our standard of living at the fastest possible rate?

"You wouldn't support unrestrained capitalism because you don't want corporations to fight with each other to raise our standard of living at the fastest possible rate?"

I don't want unrestrained Capitalism because the opposite would happen, the standard of living would fall at the fastest possible rate.

The way it already is tens of millions of people have lost their jobs because of outsourcing and offshoring their jobs to India and China because it's cheaper for big corporations to employ Indians and Chinese to produce the products in place of keeping those jobs at home where they have to pay employees higher wages.

Unrestrained Capitalism would further lower wages and as a result there would be even more dramatic job losses, an increased drop in living standards and therefore widespread misery across the Western world.

Unrestrained Capitalism would result in a slave wages type of market, the only people who would benefit would be the Unrestrained Capitalists and their shareholders.

so as a liberal you would want an economic system where businesses are required to seek out a higher wages and higher costs of production in general?? In Venezuela they solved the problem on Monday by raising the minimum wage 60% we could do that here and in fact liberals would love it this is a subject that you need to know a little about economics before you can discuss it with any value at alldo you understand?

"so as a liberal"

I'm not a liberal you idiot.

I've made enough posts at this forum about Venezuela, do a search and you'll probably get hundreds of posts of mine about Venezuela.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

you try to deny lobbyist don't influence our laws and politicians.

thats very very different from what you said, namely, that govt is bought and paid for to determine winners and losers!! You are making progress. Don't be afraid to learn something from someone twice your age and 3 times your education!!

 

[NYcarbineer]

If so why is it liberal anti capitalists who export our jobs with Taxes unions and regulations and invite in 30 million illegals to take our jobs ??see how impossibly easy it is to trip up a liberal

Taxes, unions, regulations, and illegals do nothing to change the fact that overseas wages are still far cheaper.

According to the Capitalists we should be getting our jobs back, considering.

Union membership is down.

Corporate taxes went down since the 1970's.

Real hourly wages went down since the 1970's.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

I'm not a liberal you idiot.

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you said capitalist businesses are bad because they try to lower wage costs and other costs so they can offer us lower prices and a higher standard of living. Do you think a liberal or conservative would say that??

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

If so why is it liberal anti capitalists who export our jobs with Taxes unions and regulations and invite in 30 million illegals to take our jobs ??see how impossibly easy it is to trip up a liberal

Taxes, unions, regulations, and illegals do nothing to change the fact that overseas wages are still far cheaper.

According to the Capitalists we should be getting our jobs back, considering.

Union membership is down.

Corporate taxes went down since the 1970's.

Real hourly wages went down since the 1970's.

do you have any idea what your point is? If so why not tell us????

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Unrestrained capitalists will behave about the same way as will unrestrained children.

unrestrained children will try to invent goods and services to raise our standard of living at the fastest possible rate so they can survive? 1+1=2

 

[WaitingFor2020]

Unrestrained capitalism enables slavery.

And drives wages into the basement if slavery isn't an option.

 

[NYcarbineer]

If so why is it liberal anti capitalists who export our jobs with Taxes unions and regulations and invite in 30 million illegals to take our jobs ??see how impossibly easy it is to trip up a liberal

Taxes, unions, regulations, and illegals do nothing to change the fact that overseas wages are still far cheaper.

According to the Capitalists we should be getting our jobs back, considering.

Union membership is down.

Corporate taxes went down since the 1970's.

Real hourly wages went down since the 1970's.

do you have any idea what your point is? If so why not tell us????

The point is self-explanatory. If you want to argue that weaker unions have nothing to do with lower incomes, go ahead.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

I gave you 16 trillion reasons....

I didn't ask for 16 million reasons I asked for your best example of govt being bought and paid for to pick winners and losers. Do you understand??

The fact that politicians are incessantly begging for money should about cover that.

why would it cover that?? Do you have any idea???

 

[NYcarbineer]

Unrestrained capitalism enables slavery.

And drives wages into the basement if slavery isn't an option.

Further, an 'unrestrained' capitalist could hire children, could pollute as much as he desired, could maintain workplaces as unsafe as he desired, and could sell anything he desired.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Unrestrained capitalism enables slavery.

And drives wages into the basement if slavery isn't an option.

why into the basement and not the attic. THe pure beauty of capitalism is that you have to provide the highest wages possible and best products possible just to survive. This is why capitalism is making Chinese workers rich. Do you understand??

 

[WaitingFor2020]

Unrestrained capitalists will behave about the same way as will unrestrained children.

unrestrained children will try to invent goods and services to raise our standard of living at the fastest possible rate so they can survive? 1+1=2

Why don't you do some research and look at the countries with the highest standard of living? BTW, we're 19th on the list. The top countries don't allow unbridled capitalism and they're doing very well, thank you.
The 19 countries with the highest standard of life

 

[IResist]

Unrestrained capitalism will ensure wealth will never trickle down and the environment and country will be harmed by predatory practices and thus eliminating protections for the people.

The best chance America has at success is a mixture.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Unrestrained capitalists will behave about the same way as will unrestrained children.

unrestrained children will try to invent goods and services to raise our standard of living at the fastest possible rate so they can survive? 1+1=2

Ok, if you have children, and it's your business whether you say so or not,

do raise them 'unrestrained'?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Unrestrained capitalists will behave about the same way as will unrestrained children.

unrestrained children will try to invent goods and services to raise our standard of living at the fastest possible rate so they can survive? 1+1=2

Why don't you do some research and look at the countries with the highest standard of living? BTW, we're 19th on the list. The top countries don't allow unbridled capitalism and they're doing very well, thank you.
The 19 countries with the highest standard of life

He just claimed that children would be better raised without rules, requirements, discipline, or education.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Further, an 'unrestrained' capitalist could pollute as much as he desired,.

???? not if customers didn't buy from him because he was a polluter
1+1=2