Unpopular Opinion: Conservative Businesses Should Fire Woke Employees

[JoeB131]

And there we have it. The foundation of your business ethics, as expressed much more verbosely, in many, many, many of your posts, condensed down to one sentence. Not just how you do business, but how you deal with people in general, in all situations.

I treat assholes like assholes? Yes, Yes, I do.

That's not to say I haven't had the misfortune, on occasion, to have had to deal with liars and thieves and other nominal “humans” of very low character, but such dealings have been a tiny minority of my experiences in dealing with pother people.

you see, here's the thing. You have this kind of anger. A guy broke into your truck once, and you wanted to murder the poor fool. I might not have liked what my boss in 2008 did to me (and most of my co-workers) but I certainly didn't want to murder the guy. And he cost me more than a couple hundred bucks in tool you probably shouldn't have left in your car to start with.

I have little doubt that if I were to have the relevant conversations with those that you claim to have screwed you over, I'd get a very different story from them about their dealings with you, and that their accounts would come across as much more believable than yours. If I were to have dealings with them, I have little doubt that I would find those dealings to go well, and would come away with few complaints, if any, about their honesty or ethics. And I equally have little doubt that if you were to deal with most of the people that I've dealt with you'd come away whining about how they screwed you over.

Okay, no, you probably wouldn't have.

So let's review what the boss I mentioned above did to people who weren't me. He fired two gals who were pregnant. He fired another lady who had been with the company for 15 years. The only reason why I had the job was because the person they initially selected for it had cancer and they let him go. He frequently had women in the office leaving his office in tears.

This was simply an awful person. Every last person who dealt with him thought so. Even his office manager (who I am still friends with 13 years later) doesn't have fond memories of him.

Now, an aside. I eventually went to work for another company in the same industry, and I had to deal with him a a vendor. The guy really did try hard to ingratiate himself with me. I dealt with him professionally, but never really trusted him, for good reason.

It'd probably be amusing to see you working under my current foreman. He's an honorable man, and he takes very good care of any workers who impress him favorably. But he doesn't put up with slackers, and he doesn't put up with the sort of bullshit of which you are a prolific producer. I do not think you'd last more than a day on a job under him, if you even made it that long; and of course, after being kicked off that job, you'd surely whine about how he supposedly lied to you and cheated you and screwed you over.

Only if he lied to me. The problem is, I can document lies I was told. Does it make a difference? Nope. There's no law against lying to the hired help.

But that's okay, Bob. I mean, your cult has been telling you lies since your birth, and you enjoy them. Me, I enjoy truth and have no patience for liars.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

A guy broke into your truck once, and you wanted to murder the poor fool. I might not have liked what my boss in 2008 did to me (and most of my co-workers) but I certainly didn't want to murder the guy.

It's only murder if you kill a human being.

A subhuman piece of shit who breaks into a man's car, and steals tools that a man needs to make his living, does not qualify as human. Such a creature is more like a destructive insect, only on a larger scale.

You wouldn't understand,. of course, because you are, yourself, a subhuman piece of shit, and you sympathize with other subhuman pieces of shit and not with actual human beings.

It is also why you use your false perception that others are out to lie to you and cheat you and otherwise to screw you over, as justification for your own admitted propensity to lie to others, and cheat others, and otherwise try to screw other's over.

You're a crook, Incel Joe. You know it, I know it, and nearly everyone else here on this forum knows it. Surely most of those who've had the misfortune of having had dealings with you, know it.

 

[JoeB131]

It's only murder if you kill a human being.

A subhuman piece of shit who breaks into a man's car, and steals tools that a man needs to make his living, does not qualify as human. Such a creature is more like a destructive insect, only on a larger scale.

Yup, this is the kind of anger that makes me think most of your protestations about being a "Christian" can be taken with a grain of Lot's Wife.

So let me get this straight. A guy who steals your tools and maybe puts you out of work for a day, needs to fucking die, but I have no business being angry at a guy who fired me after six years of loyal service because I busted up my knee and was running up too many medical bills. I just want to make sure I get the Mormon Sliding Scale of Righteousness correct.

It is also why you use your false perception that others are out to lie to you and cheat you and otherwise to screw you over, as justification for your own admitted propensity to lie to others, and cheat others, and otherwise try to screw other's over.

Naw, guy, it's the reality.

Give you another example. 1996, I Worked for a pet supply distributor in the Mid West that had locations in Chicago and Milwaukee, and we got word the company was building a huge new facility in Milwaukee. One that was more Square footage than both warehouses combined. It was pretty obvious to all of us that they were planning to relocate all of our jobs up to Milwaukee, but the General manager of the company told us all straight to our faces, that they weren't going to do that...

In short, they lied to us. Understandably so... If they didn't, we'd have all thrown out resumes and gotten new jobs long before they were ready to make their move.

So when I lie to a vendor and tell him I need product by the 15th, when I could probably hold out until the 30th... is that immoral? Nope. I'm hedging my bets by giving him expectations... In short, I'm doing my job. Sorry you don't get that.

You're a crook, Incel Joe. You know it, I know it, and nearly everyone else here on this forum knows it. Surely most of those who've had the misfortune of having had dealings with you, know it.

Actually, most people who deal with me professionally like me. If you weren't a weird stalker, I'd show you my linked in page with all the kudos I've gotten from professional associates.

Just remember when the poor steal it's called Crime, when the rich steal, it's called profits.

Oh, you need to stop fantasizing about my sex life... you'll just stain your magic underwear and then you'll never get a good planet to rule in the Celestial Heaven. Or whatever it is you cultists believe.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

…but I have no business being angry at a guy who fired me after six years of loyal service because I busted up my knee and was running up too many medical bills.

Give you another example. 1996, I Worked for a pet supply distributor in the Mid West that had locations in Chicago and Milwaukee, and we got word the company was building a huge new facility in Milwaukee. One that was more Square footage than both warehouses combined. It was pretty obvious to all of us that they were planning to relocate all of our jobs up to Milwaukee, but the General manager of the company told us all straight to our faces, that they weren't going to do that...

In short, they lied to us. Understandably so... If they didn't, we'd have all thrown out resumes and gotten new jobs long before they were ready to make their move.

I think you are just flat-out lying. Out here in the Real World, people don't normally get screwed over as much as you claim to have. Not, at least, unless they give others just cause for doing so.

I have no doubt that both of those past employers of yours, and any others about whom you might have similar complaints, if they were here to tell their sides of the story, we'd hear completely different accounts for why you were fired from those jobs, that their stories would be far more believable than yours, and would be entirely consistent with the utter lack of morals and ethics which you consistently display on this forum, and even boast about; one small example being…

So when I lie to a vendor and tell him I need product by the 15th, when I could probably hold out until the 30th... is that immoral? Nope. I'm hedging my bets by giving him expectations... In short, I'm doing my job. Sorry you don't get that.

 

[JoeB131]

I think you are just flat-out lying. Out here in the Real World, people don't normally get screwed over as much as you claim to have. Not, at least, unless they give others just cause for doing so.

Not sure you know what you are talking about. Real world, I deal with people who get screwed every day. I'm working with a lady today whose company fired all their associates nation-wide as they go through a bankruptcy and liquidation. I've done resumes for people who were subjected to sexual harassment, downsized for medical issues, etc. The one thing that keeps me in business is so many bad bosses out there making people want to quit or firing people unjustly.

I have no doubt that both of those past employers of yours, and any others about whom you might have similar complaints, if they were here to tell their sides of the story, we'd hear completely different accounts for why you were fired from those jobs, that their stories would be far more believable than yours,

Yeah, except I'll have official copies of my performance reviews that will say quite the opposite, not to mention the fact I was frequently the employee entrusted to train other employee, to handle multi-million dollar accounts, etc. There'd be that little problem. Everyone has a story... I can back mine up with documentation.

In fact, my attorney said that I had a very good case for medical and age discrimination. (It helps when the boss blurts out in front of witnesses that you're "too old".)

and would be entirely consistent with the utter lack of morals and ethics which you consistently display on this forum, and even boast about; one small example being…

Uh, guy, that's the job description of a buyer.

You keep your information close to the chest.
You negotiate for the best price.
You overdemand on performance measures like quality, service and pricing.
You don't let the vendor know you are dealing with other vendors and can replace them at any time.

That's.... you know... saavy business.

 

[AFrench2]

Conservative Businesses Should Fire Woke Employees-TopicTitle


Why do you want to destroy jobs?

Just getting rid of useless people.

I dunno, you're still here

 

[jknowgood]

Conservative Businesses Should Fire Woke Employees-TopicTitle


Why do you want to destroy jobs?

Just getting rid of useless people.

I dunno, you're still here

Coming from you, I take that as a compliment.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

That's.... you know... saavy business.

Ultimately, you are left with the admission that you are dishonest and unethical in your business dealings. You're left making bullshit excuses for your lack of honor and ethics, and in trying to spin it as if it is those of us who deal honestly and ethically with others who are wrong for so doing.

Of course, there is nothing about you that this admission reveals, that hasn't already long been obvious about you.

Business isn't built on honesty..

If it truly is the case that you get lied to, cheated, or otherwise dealt with in an unethical manner, as often as you claim, then it is only you reaping what you have sown.

 

[Canon Shooter]

Yeah, except I'll have official copies of my performance reviews that will say quite the opposite, not to mention the fact I was frequently the employee entrusted to train other employee, to handle multi-million dollar accounts, etc. There'd be that little problem. Everyone has a story... I can back mine up with documentation.

Good.

Do it.

Let's see how stellar a performer you are.

I don't suspect you really will, though...

 

[JoeB131]

Ultimately, you are left with the admission that you are dishonest and unethical in your business dealings. You're left making bullshit excuses for your lack of honor and ethics, and in trying to spin it as if it is those of us who deal honestly and ethically with others who are wrong for so doing.

Uh, guy, I'd be in a lot more trouble if I told vendors what I was thinking... You obviously aren't in a job that requires much negotiation or thought. Just do what the foreman tells you... like a good little Cult Robot.

Of course, there is nothing about you that this admission reveals, that hasn't already long been obvious about you.

Of course it isn't. It's about getting the deal that best benefits YOUR SIDE. They work to get the deal that best benefits THEIR side. Then we just see who is better at negotiation. I'm sorry you don't understand how any of this works.

 

[JoeB131]

Good.

Do it.

Let's see how stellar a performer you are.

I don't suspect you really will, though...

Post my personal documentation on a website... um, no.

Why don't you tell us the name of your company so I can look it up on Glassdoor and have a good laugh at all the negative reviews.

 

[Canon Shooter]

Ultimately, you are left with the admission that you are dishonest and unethical in your business dealings. You're left making bullshit excuses for your lack of honor and ethics, and in trying to spin it as if it is those of us who deal honestly and ethically with others who are wrong for so doing.

Uh, guy, I'd be in a lot more trouble if I told vendors what I was thinking... You obviously aren't in a job that requires much negotiation or thought. Just do what the foreman tells you... like a good little Cult Robot.

Of course, there is nothing about you that this admission reveals, that hasn't already long been obvious about you.

Of course it isn't. It's about getting the deal that best benefits YOUR SIDE. They work to get the deal that best benefits THEIR side. Then we just see who is better at negotiation. I'm sorry you don't understand how any of this works.

You're a scumbag liar. You've actually admitted that.

You're dishonest in business. You've admitted that, too.

I've built two successful businesses, and integrity and honesty have played a significant role in the building of each.

You're everything that's wrong with American business...

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Good.

Do it.

Let's see how stellar a performer you are.

I don't suspect you really will, though...

In the event that Incel Joe does come up with some documents, keep in mind his admission that he is a dishonest person, and take that into account when evaluating the apparent authenticity of any such documents.

It would certainly not surprise me if, among his actual skills, forgery is among them; and that is something that would certainly be much easier to get away with on an Internet forum than in The Real World.

 

[Canon Shooter]

Good.

Do it.

Let's see how stellar a performer you are.

I don't suspect you really will, though...

Post my personal documentation on a website... um, no.

Hey, you're the one who's been runnin' your mouth about how great you are. Then you ssaid you could back it up.

Then you turned into a chickenshit pussy when challenged to do exactly that.

Why don't you tell us the name of your company so I can look it up on Glassdoor and have a good laugh at all the negative reviews.

In all my years of business I've had two negative reviews. One was from someone who was representing himself as an officer of my company. I fired him immediately, had him escorted from the premises and had him charged with grand larceny. You might say he was a bit disgruntled.

The second one was as the result of a miscommunication between a customer and one of my CSR's. My CS Manager got involved and the customer rescinded his negative review.

But, see, that's what happens when you're honest. That's what happens when you're not a scumbag liar. That's what happens when you stay involved with your company...

 

[Canon Shooter]

Good.

Do it.

Let's see how stellar a performer you are.

I don't suspect you really will, though...

In the event that Incel Joe does come up with some documents, keep in mind his admission that he is a dishonest person, and take that into account when evaluating the apparent authenticity of any such documents.

It would certainly not surprise me if, among his actual skills, forgery is among them; and that is something that would certainly be much easier to get away with on an Internet forum than in The Real World.

Oh, absolutely.

He's single-handidly eroded every last bit of integrity and character he may have had...

 

[JoeB131]

You're a scumbag liar. You've actually admitted that.

You're dishonest in business. You've admitted that, too.

No, business is inherently dishonest. So your purchasing people straight up tell vendors when they are going to fire them or that they are willing to settle for a certain price and not negotiate down? That doesn't sound very successful.

Oh, wait, you might start posting pictures of your car again, I need to assuage your ego.

You are the most awesome boss ever.
Your employees love you when you listen in to their private conversations.
They really enjoy it when you stick your nose into their private lives.

Hey, this lying shit is easy.. it's telling people what they WANT to hear. It's how most of us get through life. Telling people what they want to hear.

But seriously, you have the same problem my ex-boss had.... you are insecure and you need to tear others down. That's kind of a nightmare to work for.

 

[JoeB131]

It would certainly not surprise me if, among his actual skills, forgery is among them; and that is something that would certainly be much easier to get away with on an Internet forum than in The Real World.

Naw, Mormon Bob, if I were a really good forger, I'd sell the Mormon Church a bunch of fake Joseph Smith Documents and make a fortune, because you fucks are really gullible.

 

[JoeB131]

In all my years of business I've had two negative reviews. One was from someone who was representing himself as an officer of my company. I fired him immediately, had him escorted from the premises and had him charged with grand larceny. You might say he was a bit disgruntled.

Wow, really? What does that say about you as a manager that your employees would commit grand larceny and then diss you on Glassdoor.

Oh, wait, before you start posting more car pictures...

You are extra, extra special...

 

[Canon Shooter]

No, business is inherently dishonest.

Not if it's done right.

You wouldn't know anything about that, though...

So your purchasing people straight up tell vendors when they are going to fire them or that they are willing to settle for a certain price and not negotiate down? That doesn't sound very successful.

I've had some of the same vendors since the day I opened my doors.

That's because I deal with them honestly, and they deal with me honestly.

You don't even enjoy a passing relationship with "honesty", though, so I won't waste my time explaining how such a relationship is healthy for one's business...

Oh, wait, you might start posting pictures of your car again, I need to assuage your ego.

Wassamatta, Precious? Jealous?

Here, let's post a photo of your car. You've heard of the General Lee, right?

Well, you're close!

You are the most awesome boss ever.

The most awesome? Maybe not, but I'm up there...

Your employees love you when you listen in to their private conversations.

That's the thing you fil to understand, dipshit: Those "private conversations" often lead into very "public alterations", and I won't have that in my company...

They really enjoy it when you stick your nose into their private lives.

Well, being a self-centered little prick it's no surprise that you've never cared about any employees you may allegedly ever had. I've explained this to you, ad nauseum. Yoou've successfully proven that you are truly too fucking stupid to comprehend it...

Hey, this lying shit is easy

Well, you've already admitted to being a liar, so it's no surprise it comes easy to you...

it's telling people what they WANT to hear. It's how most of us get through life. Telling people what they want to hear.

No wonder you're a management failure.

A good manager doesn't tell someone what they want to hear. He tells them what they need to hear...

But seriously, you have the same problem my ex-boss had.... you are insecure and you need to tear others down. That's kind of a nightmare to work for.

I don't tear anyone down. I've no need to. Hell, I don't even have to tear you down. You've absolved me of that by admitting to being a liar and dishonest in business.

You tear yourself down pretty perfectly...

 

[Canon Shooter]

]Wow, really? What does that say about you as a manager that your employees would commit grand larceny and then diss you on Glassdoor.

He misrepresented his role in my company to an officer of another company, making promises and assurances he had no business making. He severely strained what had been, up to that time, an excellent relationship with this other company. Of course I fired him and had charges brought against him.

What would you have done?