Universal Healthcare

None of the democrat proposals for universal healthcare have any plausible baselines. They’re lying to us, and they know they are.


I think you're right. If the D's were to get in, I think they'll just do what they want to do at the time, and just call it a "mandate".

Nothing they have supposedly planned is viable in the least.

For sure, however, the D's will raise taxes and will increase the deficit- as they suddenly forget their deficit hawk stance of 2019.
 
Democrats/liberals seem to be gung ho on universal healthcare these days. Ever wonder where that concept originated?

ADOLPH HITLER: The Real Father of Universal Health Care

Germany had universal health care long before Hitler got there.

it actually goes back to Otto von Bismarck.

HealthMatters: The Bismarck Model

Bismarck was the ultimate arch-conservative... but even he saw the wisdom of universal health care.

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In 1883, the reactionary German chancellor Otto von Bismarck, a Prussian autocrat through and through, proposed the health care model that came to be adopted by many European nations and that echoes decisively today in the American health care apparatus. Though no social reformer, Bismarck viewed universal health insurance as an effective tactic in his grand design for German unification, which trumped his conservative tendencies. What has come to be known as the Bismarck Model survived the German militarism of World War I, the unstable democracy of the Weimar Republic, Naziism, World War II and its aftermath, and eventual reunification. Its durability cannot be doubted.

Today, the Bismarck Model serves as the predominant means of guaranteeing universal coverage in Europe, used in Germany, France, Switzerland, Belgium, Netherlands, and others. (Japan is also a Bismarck Model country.) The implementation varies, but all mandate insurance in one form or another. In Germany, for example, employers and employees jointly fund insurance via withholding; in Switzerland, individuals purchase their own policies.
/—-/ Nice try, but Hitler was the the one who is credited as the father of universal healthcare, ADOLPH HITLER: The Real Father of Universal Health Care

Credited by who, you?
 
Invoking Hitler in any conversation, comparing that monster to Americans, is intellectually dishonest, intellectually lazy, ignorant, obtuse, or some combination therein.

Not to mention being an insult to MILLIONS who REALLY suffered, and those who still do.

And of course, it's yet another behavior shared by both ends of our crazed political spectrum, which appear to decay by the day.
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Tell that to the Liberals who started this ball rolling by referring to Romney, McCain and Dubya as all "Literally Hitler".

W was specifically targeted as a Nazi because of property that his grandfather owned in Germany when war broke out between America and Germany in 1941
I tell it to both ends, neither of whom have either the balls or the maturity to stop.
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Fair enough. But remember that Donald J. Trump is strictly a counter puncher.

If the libs quit with this kind of vitriol, they won't have to worry about any return fire.

LOL Trump is a counter-puncher? He's a Bully, a coward who hits and runs.
 
Democrats/liberals seem to be gung ho on universal healthcare these days. Ever wonder where that concept originated?

ADOLPH HITLER: The Real Father of Universal Health Care

They are trying to emulate Canada where the people with serious issues flock to the US for treatment
Before you start criticizing, maybe you should learn something about it.


/—-/ That’s why Canadians come to New York for operations,
 
Democrats/liberals seem to be gung ho on universal healthcare these days. Ever wonder where that concept originated?

ADOLPH HITLER: The Real Father of Universal Health Care

They are trying to emulate Canada where the people with serious issues flock to the US for treatment
Before you start criticizing, maybe you should learn something about it.


/—-/ That’s why Canadians come to New York for operations,


How many? I'm sure you don't know, you are one of the many who echoes memes which are nothing more than digested propaganda you've eat.
 
Democrats/liberals seem to be gung ho on universal healthcare these days. Ever wonder where that concept originated?

ADOLPH HITLER: The Real Father of Universal Health Care

They are trying to emulate Canada where the people with serious issues flock to the US for treatment
Before you start criticizing, maybe you should learn something about it.


/—-/ That’s why Canadians come to New York for operations,


How many? I'm sure you don't know, you are one of the many who echoes memes which are nothing more than digested propaganda you've eat.


Google is your friend
 
Invoking Hitler in any conversation, comparing that monster to Americans, is intellectually dishonest, intellectually lazy, ignorant, obtuse, or some combination therein.

Not to mention being an insult to MILLIONS who REALLY suffered, and those who still do.

And of course, it's yet another behavior shared by both ends of our crazed political spectrum, which appear to decay by the day.
.


Tell that to the Liberals who started this ball rolling by referring to Romney, McCain and Dubya as all "Literally Hitler".

W was specifically targeted as a Nazi because of property that his grandfather owned in Germany when war broke out between America and Germany in 1941
I tell it to both ends, neither of whom have either the balls or the maturity to stop.
.


Fair enough. But remember that Donald J. Trump is strictly a counter puncher.

If the libs quit with this kind of vitriol, they won't have to worry about any return fire.

LOL Trump is a counter-puncher? He's a Bully, a coward who hits and runs.

You hypocrite
 
Democrats/liberals seem to be gung ho on universal healthcare these days. Ever wonder where that concept originated?

ADOLPH HITLER: The Real Father of Universal Health Care

They are trying to emulate Canada where the people with serious issues flock to the US for treatment
Before you start criticizing, maybe you should learn something about it.


/—-/ That’s why Canadians come to New York for operations,


How many? I'm sure you don't know, you are one of the many who echoes memes which are nothing more than digested propaganda you've eat.



Those who CARE about the care they receive do.

And they come from further than that.

Mick Jagger had his heart operation in New York instead of England where it would be free.

Because he gives a shit about his health
 
Democrats/liberals seem to be gung ho on universal healthcare these days. Ever wonder where that concept originated?

ADOLPH HITLER: The Real Father of Universal Health Care

They are trying to emulate Canada where the people with serious issues flock to the US for treatment
Before you start criticizing, maybe you should learn something about it.


/—-/ That’s why Canadians come to New York for operations,


How many? I'm sure you don't know, you are one of the many who echoes memes which are nothing more than digested propaganda you've eat.


63,000 Canadians left the country for medical treatment last year: Fraser Institute

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-co...dians-increasingly-come-to-us-for-health-care
 
Democrats/liberals seem to be gung ho on universal healthcare these days. Ever wonder where that concept originated?

ADOLPH HITLER: The Real Father of Universal Health Care

They are trying to emulate Canada where the people with serious issues flock to the US for treatment
Before you start criticizing, maybe you should learn something about it.


/—-/ That’s why Canadians come to New York for operations,


How many? I'm sure you don't know, you are one of the many who echoes memes which are nothing more than digested propaganda you've eat.


63,000 Canadians left the country for medical treatment last year: Fraser Institute

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-co...dians-increasingly-come-to-us-for-health-care

Thank you, sir
 
Democrats/liberals seem to be gung ho on universal healthcare these days. Ever wonder where that concept originated?

ADOLPH HITLER: The Real Father of Universal Health Care

They are trying to emulate Canada where the people with serious issues flock to the US for treatment
Before you start criticizing, maybe you should learn something about it.


/—-/ That’s why Canadians come to New York for operations,


How many? I'm sure you don't know, you are one of the many who echoes memes which are nothing more than digested propaganda you've eat.


63,000 Canadians left the country for medical treatment last year: Fraser Institute

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-co...dians-increasingly-come-to-us-for-health-care



CTVNews.ca Staff
Published Sunday, July 2, 2017 10:11PM EDT

"A new report from the Fraser Institute estimates that more than 63,000 Canadians travelled abroad for medical care in 2016.

"The think-tank says that's a nearly 40-per-cent increase over the previous year, and may be related to long wait times for medical procedures in Canada. But one professor warns the data is based only on estimates, making it highly questionable.

Your second link is worth reading, though it is too long for the willfully ignorant (those who only read the headline). At the end of the link, the top five best health care systems are Switzerland, Norway, Denmark, Sweden and Canada.
 
They are trying to emulate Canada where the people with serious issues flock to the US for treatment
Before you start criticizing, maybe you should learn something about it.


/—-/ That’s why Canadians come to New York for operations,


How many? I'm sure you don't know, you are one of the many who echoes memes which are nothing more than digested propaganda you've eat.


63,000 Canadians left the country for medical treatment last year: Fraser Institute

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-co...dians-increasingly-come-to-us-for-health-care



CTVNews.ca Staff
Published Sunday, July 2, 2017 10:11PM EDT

"A new report from the Fraser Institute estimates that more than 63,000 Canadians travelled abroad for medical care in 2016.

"The think-tank says that's a nearly 40-per-cent increase over the previous year, and may be related to long wait times for medical procedures in Canada. But one professor warns the data is based only on estimates, making it highly questionable.

Your second link is worth reading, though it is too long for the willfully ignorant (those who only read the headline). At the end of the link, the top five best health care systems are Switzerland, Norway, Denmark, Sweden and Canada.

/—-/ Why would any go abroad? Why isn’t everyone flocking to Canada for surgery?
 
They are trying to emulate Canada where the people with serious issues flock to the US for treatment
Before you start criticizing, maybe you should learn something about it.


/—-/ That’s why Canadians come to New York for operations,


How many? I'm sure you don't know, you are one of the many who echoes memes which are nothing more than digested propaganda you've eat.


63,000 Canadians left the country for medical treatment last year: Fraser Institute

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-co...dians-increasingly-come-to-us-for-health-care



CTVNews.ca Staff
Published Sunday, July 2, 2017 10:11PM EDT

"A new report from the Fraser Institute estimates that more than 63,000 Canadians travelled abroad for medical care in 2016.

"The think-tank says that's a nearly 40-per-cent increase over the previous year, and may be related to long wait times for medical procedures in Canada. But one professor warns the data is based only on estimates, making it highly questionable.

Your second link is worth reading, though it is too long for the willfully ignorant (those who only read the headline). At the end of the link, the top five best health care systems are Switzerland, Norway, Denmark, Sweden and Canada.


So you jump on the line about one professor..."granted the data is based on estimates", but the amazing thing is you don't know much higher it is, dumbass.
 
They are trying to emulate Canada where the people with serious issues flock to the US for treatment
Before you start criticizing, maybe you should learn something about it.


/—-/ That’s why Canadians come to New York for operations,


How many? I'm sure you don't know, you are one of the many who echoes memes which are nothing more than digested propaganda you've eat.


63,000 Canadians left the country for medical treatment last year: Fraser Institute

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-co...dians-increasingly-come-to-us-for-health-care



CTVNews.ca Staff
Published Sunday, July 2, 2017 10:11PM EDT

"A new report from the Fraser Institute estimates that more than 63,000 Canadians travelled abroad for medical care in 2016.

"The think-tank says that's a nearly 40-per-cent increase over the previous year, and may be related to long wait times for medical procedures in Canada. But one professor warns the data is based only on estimates, making it highly questionable.

Your second link is worth reading, though it is too long for the willfully ignorant (those who only read the headline). At the end of the link, the top five best health care systems are Switzerland, Norway, Denmark, Sweden and Canada.


Yet their sick people come here. Go figure.
 
Before you start criticizing, maybe you should learn something about it.


/—-/ That’s why Canadians come to New York for operations,


How many? I'm sure you don't know, you are one of the many who echoes memes which are nothing more than digested propaganda you've eat.


63,000 Canadians left the country for medical treatment last year: Fraser Institute

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-co...dians-increasingly-come-to-us-for-health-care



CTVNews.ca Staff
Published Sunday, July 2, 2017 10:11PM EDT

"A new report from the Fraser Institute estimates that more than 63,000 Canadians travelled abroad for medical care in 2016.

"The think-tank says that's a nearly 40-per-cent increase over the previous year, and may be related to long wait times for medical procedures in Canada. But one professor warns the data is based only on estimates, making it highly questionable.

Your second link is worth reading, though it is too long for the willfully ignorant (those who only read the headline). At the end of the link, the top five best health care systems are Switzerland, Norway, Denmark, Sweden and Canada.


Yet their sick people come here. Go figure.




Not just their sick people, but their quality doctors as well. My ophthalmologist is an immigrant from the Great White North, a graduate of McGill.

Really, medical freedom helps both doctors and patients.
 
Before you start criticizing, maybe you should learn something about it.


/—-/ That’s why Canadians come to New York for operations,


How many? I'm sure you don't know, you are one of the many who echoes memes which are nothing more than digested propaganda you've eat.


63,000 Canadians left the country for medical treatment last year: Fraser Institute

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-co...dians-increasingly-come-to-us-for-health-care



CTVNews.ca Staff
Published Sunday, July 2, 2017 10:11PM EDT

"A new report from the Fraser Institute estimates that more than 63,000 Canadians travelled abroad for medical care in 2016.

"The think-tank says that's a nearly 40-per-cent increase over the previous year, and may be related to long wait times for medical procedures in Canada. But one professor warns the data is based only on estimates, making it highly questionable.

Your second link is worth reading, though it is too long for the willfully ignorant (those who only read the headline). At the end of the link, the top five best health care systems are Switzerland, Norway, Denmark, Sweden and Canada.


Yet their sick people come here. Go figure.


Half-truth. Very likely the wealthy come here, not the hoi polloi.
 

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