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The poor are screwed in the US now. Wait times to see specialists under Medicaid can easy run 6 months or more. Doctors tell patients they can't take any more new Medicaid patients at this time and it doesn't matter how serious the illness or how sick you are.

The success of single payer depends on how much money the country wants to spend on healthcare. Canada purposely keeps utilization rates high to keep costs down. That mean long waits times for some specialized care.

However, unlike the US, Canada does use a triage system in which the most serious cases get shorter wait times. We solve that problem in the US with those majestic words, "cash payment".
Yep, just wait until it's "free" for everyone, that 6 month wait time will become 9 months for anything.
That argument is made often, mostly by people that do not utilize healthcare services or their brain a lot. Theory goes something like this: If we make movies, ice cream, and candy free, their will be huge lines with long waits for these free products. Thus, the same thing will happen with healthcare

The difference of course is that people love movies, ice cream, and candy but hate going to doctors, hospitals, and dentists. They go because they feel they have to go, not because they want to.

Following your line of reason, if we made burials and cremations free, the bodies would be stacked up at funeral homes in order to take advantage of the free service.
No kidding, what a dumbass analogy.
So you think people will go to the doctor or ER and spend hours sitting there so they can be poked with needles and be told a lot of stuff they don't want to hear just because there's little or no cost.:cuckoo:
Seems to work pretty good for illegals.
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In other words, in Canada and other socialized medicine "paradises" , the poor are screwed. They are stuck in a line waiting for treatment
The poor are screwed in the US now. Wait times to see specialists under Medicaid can easy run 6 months or more. Doctors tell patients they can't take any more new Medicaid patients at this time and it doesn't matter how serious the illness or how sick you are.

The success of single payer depends on how much money the country wants to spend on healthcare. Canada purposely keeps utilization rates high to keep costs down. That mean long waits times for some specialized care.

However, unlike the US, Canada does use a triage system in which the most serious cases get shorter wait times. We solve that problem in the US with those majestic words, "cash payment".
Yep, just wait until it's "free" for everyone, that 6 month wait time will become 9 months for anything.
That argument is made often, mostly by people that do not utilize healthcare services or their brain a lot. Theory goes something like this: If we make movies, ice cream, and candy free, their will be huge lines with long waits for these free products. Thus, the same thing will happen with healthcare

The difference of course is that people love movies, ice cream, and candy but hate going to doctors, hospitals, and dentists. They go because they feel they have to go, not because they want to.

Following your line of reason, if we made burials and cremations free, the bodies would be stacked up at funeral homes in order to take advantage of the free service.
No kidding, what a dumbass analogy.
So you think people will go to the doctor or ER and spend hours sitting there so they can be poked with needles and be told a lot of stuff they don't want to hear just because there's little or no cost.:cuckoo:
/——/ Yes.
 
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Yep, just wait until it's "free" for everyone, that 6 month wait time will become 9 months for anything.
That argument is made often, mostly by people that do not utilize healthcare services or their brain a lot. Theory goes something like this: If we make movies, ice cream, and candy free, their will be huge lines with long waits for these free products. Thus, the same thing will happen with healthcare

The difference of course is that people love movies, ice cream, and candy but hate going to doctors, hospitals, and dentists. They go because they feel they have to go, not because they want to.

Following your line of reason, if we made burials and cremations free, the bodies would be stacked up at funeral homes in order to take advantage of the free service.
No kidding, what a dumbass analogy.
So you think people will go to the doctor or ER and spend hours sitting there so they can be poked with needles and be told a lot of stuff they don't want to hear just because there's little or no cost.:cuckoo:
Seems to work pretty good for illegals.
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Aug. 8 (UPI) -- Britain's national healthcare system said Thursday a record 4.4 million Britons are waiting for surgery -- a figure one medical leader called "unacceptable."

New statistics posted by the National Health Service also showed a 16 percent increase of patients who'd waited for more than 18 weeks for non-emergency operations, such as hip or knee replacements. Record 4.4M Britons waiting for non-urgent surgery, gov't figures show
 

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The following events did not take place in the Soviet Union or Cuba. None of this inhumanity was a figment of my imagination. I'm narrating the details without hyperbole.

Recently, I took a ride through one amazingly affordable health care system — the one Obama and other notable Democrats paint as the "envy of the world." See how quickly you can figure out where this envy of the world dwells.

Got your seat belt on? This liberal utopia is a bit bumpy. https://www.americanthinker.com/art..._care_system_thats_the_envy_of_the_world.html
 
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In other words, in Canada and other socialized medicine "paradises" , the poor are screwed. They are stuck in a line waiting for treatment
The poor are screwed in the US now. Wait times to see specialists under Medicaid can easy run 6 months or more. Doctors tell patients they can't take any more new Medicaid patients at this time and it doesn't matter how serious the illness or how sick you are.

The success of single payer depends on how much money the country wants to spend on healthcare. Canada purposely keeps utilization rates high to keep costs down. That mean long waits times for some specialized care.

However, unlike the US, Canada does use a triage system in which the most serious cases get shorter wait times. We solve that problem in the US with those majestic words, "cash payment".
Yep, just wait until it's "free" for everyone, that 6 month wait time will become 9 months for anything.
That argument is made often, mostly by people that do not utilize healthcare services or their brain a lot. Theory goes something like this: If we make movies, ice cream, and candy free, their will be huge lines with long waits for these free products. Thus, the same thing will happen with healthcare

The difference of course is that people love movies, ice cream, and candy but hate going to doctors, hospitals, and dentists. They go because they feel they have to go, not because they want to.

Following your line of reason, if we made burials and cremations free, the bodies would be stacked up at funeral homes in order to take advantage of the free service.
No kidding, what a dumbass analogy.
So you think people will go to the doctor or ER and spend hours sitting there so they can be poked with needles and be told a lot of stuff they don't want to hear just because there's little or no cost.:cuckoo:
And here's the argument you always hide from when you try to make this point: We don't have enough money to give everyone in the country all the health care they want. That much wealth doesn't even exist. If they're not spending their own money, every single person will be willing to break the bank on health care to save their own ass. That not your "over utilization" horseshit. That's just basic human survival instinct.
 

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The following events did not take place in the Soviet Union or Cuba. None of this inhumanity was a figment of my imagination. I'm narrating the details without hyperbole.

Recently, I took a ride through one amazingly affordable health care system — the one Obama and other notable Democrats paint as the "envy of the world." See how quickly you can figure out where this envy of the world dwells.

Got your seat belt on? This liberal utopia is a bit bumpy. https://www.americanthinker.com/art..._care_system_thats_the_envy_of_the_world.html
An what other fairly tales do have for us today?
 

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The following events did not take place in the Soviet Union or Cuba. None of this inhumanity was a figment of my imagination. I'm narrating the details without hyperbole.

Recently, I took a ride through one amazingly affordable health care system — the one Obama and other notable Democrats paint as the "envy of the world." See how quickly you can figure out where this envy of the world dwells.

Got your seat belt on? This liberal utopia is a bit bumpy. https://www.americanthinker.com/art..._care_system_thats_the_envy_of_the_world.html
An what other fairly tales do have for us today?
That story brought tears to my eyes from excessive laughter, what a fucking lie.
 

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The following events did not take place in the Soviet Union or Cuba. None of this inhumanity was a figment of my imagination. I'm narrating the details without hyperbole.

Recently, I took a ride through one amazingly affordable health care system — the one Obama and other notable Democrats paint as the "envy of the world." See how quickly you can figure out where this envy of the world dwells.

Got your seat belt on? This liberal utopia is a bit bumpy. https://www.americanthinker.com/art..._care_system_thats_the_envy_of_the_world.html
An what other fairly tales do have for us today?
That story brought tears to my eyes from excessive laughter, what a fucking lie.
Truth is always Inconvenient for libs. Obama Admin proclaims they will Gruber the people and libs rejoice.
 

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The following events did not take place in the Soviet Union or Cuba. None of this inhumanity was a figment of my imagination. I'm narrating the details without hyperbole.

Recently, I took a ride through one amazingly affordable health care system — the one Obama and other notable Democrats paint as the "envy of the world." See how quickly you can figure out where this envy of the world dwells.

Got your seat belt on? This liberal utopia is a bit bumpy. https://www.americanthinker.com/art..._care_system_thats_the_envy_of_the_world.html
An what other fairly tales do have for us today?
That story brought tears to my eyes from excessive laughter, what a fucking lie.
Truth is always Inconvenient for libs. Obama Admin proclaims they will Gruber the people and libs rejoice.
the story was pure fiction, what a dupe.
 

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The following events did not take place in the Soviet Union or Cuba. None of this inhumanity was a figment of my imagination. I'm narrating the details without hyperbole.

Recently, I took a ride through one amazingly affordable health care system — the one Obama and other notable Democrats paint as the "envy of the world." See how quickly you can figure out where this envy of the world dwells.

Got your seat belt on? This liberal utopia is a bit bumpy. https://www.americanthinker.com/art..._care_system_thats_the_envy_of_the_world.html
An what other fairly tales do have for us today?
That story brought tears to my eyes from excessive laughter, what a fucking lie.
Truth is always Inconvenient for libs. Obama Admin proclaims they will Gruber the people and libs rejoice.
the story was pure fiction, what a dupe.
/---/ Try refuting the claims in the article. Here's another source:
You are being redirected...
More detailed statistics from other sources paint an even grimmer picture. For example, the Fraser Institute’s most recent wait times report finds that wait times (GP to treatment) have almost doubled since 1993. Worse, physicians report that patients generally wait almost three weeks longer than what they consider clinically reasonable (after consultation with a specialist).
 

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The following events did not take place in the Soviet Union or Cuba. None of this inhumanity was a figment of my imagination. I'm narrating the details without hyperbole.

Recently, I took a ride through one amazingly affordable health care system — the one Obama and other notable Democrats paint as the "envy of the world." See how quickly you can figure out where this envy of the world dwells.

Got your seat belt on? This liberal utopia is a bit bumpy. https://www.americanthinker.com/art..._care_system_thats_the_envy_of_the_world.html
An what other fairly tales do have for us today?
That story brought tears to my eyes from excessive laughter, what a fucking lie.
Truth is always Inconvenient for libs. Obama Admin proclaims they will Gruber the people and libs rejoice.
the story was pure fiction, what a dupe.
/---/ Try refuting the claims in the article.
You clearly don't follow US politics. The proper response when reality doesn't fit your narrative is mocking laughter. Duh.
 

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The following events did not take place in the Soviet Union or Cuba. None of this inhumanity was a figment of my imagination. I'm narrating the details without hyperbole.

Recently, I took a ride through one amazingly affordable health care system — the one Obama and other notable Democrats paint as the "envy of the world." See how quickly you can figure out where this envy of the world dwells.

Got your seat belt on? This liberal utopia is a bit bumpy. https://www.americanthinker.com/art..._care_system_thats_the_envy_of_the_world.html
An what other fairly tales do have for us today?
That story brought tears to my eyes from excessive laughter, what a fucking lie.
Truth is always Inconvenient for libs. Obama Admin proclaims they will Gruber the people and libs rejoice.
the story was pure fiction, what a dupe.
/---/ Try refuting the claims in the article. Here's another source:
You are being redirected...
More detailed statistics from other sources paint an even grimmer picture. For example, the Fraser Institute’s most recent wait times report finds that wait times (GP to treatment) have almost doubled since 1993. Worse, physicians report that patients generally wait almost three weeks longer than what they consider clinically reasonable (after consultation with a specialist).
Hey dummy I'm not talking about Canada pay attention and read the article I was replying to.
 

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An what other fairly tales do have for us today?
That story brought tears to my eyes from excessive laughter, what a fucking lie.
Truth is always Inconvenient for libs. Obama Admin proclaims they will Gruber the people and libs rejoice.
the story was pure fiction, what a dupe.
/---/ Try refuting the claims in the article. Here's another source:
You are being redirected...
More detailed statistics from other sources paint an even grimmer picture. For example, the Fraser Institute’s most recent wait times report finds that wait times (GP to treatment) have almost doubled since 1993. Worse, physicians report that patients generally wait almost three weeks longer than what they consider clinically reasonable (after consultation with a specialist).
Hey dummy I'm not talking about Canada pay attention and read the article I was replying to.
/——/ The first link was the failure of Canadian healthcare and you said it was pure fiction.
 

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That story brought tears to my eyes from excessive laughter, what a fucking lie.
Truth is always Inconvenient for libs. Obama Admin proclaims they will Gruber the people and libs rejoice.
the story was pure fiction, what a dupe.
/---/ Try refuting the claims in the article. Here's another source:
You are being redirected...
More detailed statistics from other sources paint an even grimmer picture. For example, the Fraser Institute’s most recent wait times report finds that wait times (GP to treatment) have almost doubled since 1993. Worse, physicians report that patients generally wait almost three weeks longer than what they consider clinically reasonable (after consultation with a specialist).
Hey dummy I'm not talking about Canada pay attention and read the article I was replying to.
/——/ The first link was the failure of Canadian healthcare and you said it was pure fiction.
Ok asshole I was clearly replying to mano american thinker link.
 

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Unions want no part of this either, thanks for more votes libs
 

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