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Which goes to the fact that for conservatives, ‘abortion’ is about partisan politics – not ‘saving babies’ not “states’ rights.”Acually it's like a tale of two cities. Before they're born the state wants full authority over them, to ensure they survive to term.
But once they're born, the state wants nothing to do with them. They don't provide for food, shelter, or healthcare.
How generous of you to decide who gets to live and die. If what you say is true how come you havent done the world a favor and eaten a round yet?We need to terminate at least twice that, in order to prevent the extinction of the human species.
The fact we have a high rate of reproduction comes from the fact we used to be prey.
Since we are not prey any more, we have to artificially lower our reproductive rate. Populations must NOT increase.
We are already wiping out hundreds of species a year, and that will destroy us completely eventually.
Meanwhile, The Democratic Party had decades to codify Roe into Federal law.Which goes to the fact that for conservatives, ‘abortion’ is about partisan politics – not ‘saving babies’ not “states’ rights.”
Partisan politics that kept the base angry, engaged, and going to the polls, intended to facilitate the tyranny of Republican minority rule.
He also tap danced around conditions like hydrocephalus in fetuses. While medical science has made it possible for babies to survive into adulthood, it doesn't answer the question of the medical cost, and burden placed on the parents. And thus the effects on the other children who may suffer because of finite parental resources.In your opinion.
And you’re entitled to your opinion.
Others may disagree.
Individuals are at liberty to make such decisions, consistent with their own good conscience – not the state.
Individuals know best how to conduct their private lives, not government.
You missed the word "private".Unless it's getting vaccinated, wearing a mask, buying health insurance, buying a gas-guzzling SUV, buying incandescent light bulbs, buying a high-flow toilet...
I have friends whose granddaughter's baby was diagnosed in utero with a rare brain condition that caused a large void in her brain. The doctors advised the young lady to abort, as the child would likely live only hours after birth.He also tap danced around conditions like hydrocephalus in fetuses. While medical science has made it possible for babies to survive into adulthood, it doesn't answer the question of the medical cost, and burden placed on the parents. And thus the effects on the other children who may suffer because of finite parental resources.
I'm saying that most serious birth defects aren't detectable at 6 weeks. And by the time they're detectable on ultrasound it would be too late.So better kill 'em first anyway, huh? Might get sick.
It's amazing how many people are insisting eugenics is a good thing.
The likelihood of overturning Obergefell isn’t the point.Actually, Justice Clarence Thomas suggested the court could re-examine decisions on access to contraception, same-sex relationships, and same-sex marriage.
However Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh cited landmark gay rights legislation in the states that suggested that overturning gay rights would be much more difficult than overturning Roe.
Justice Clarence Thomas suggests Supreme Court could rethink decisions on contraceptives, same-sex marriage
Kavanaugh cites landmark gay rights cases in argument about abortion restrictions
Lawyers who argued for LGBTQ rights in those landmark cases — Obergefell v. Hodges and Lawrence v. Texas — were conflicted on the validity of Justice Kavanaugh’s argument.www.nbcnews.com
Ok, but what about the scenario that I just askedAbortion is a complex issue; citizens deciding when life begins or whether to have a child or not is subjective and personal – such issues and decisions are not within the purview of the state.
Individuals know best how to conduct their private lives, not government.
Clearly the Christo-fascist authoritarian right rejects this fact, instead seeking to compel conformity and punish dissent using the authority of the state.
Actually, Justice Clarence Thomas suggested the court could re-examine decisions on access to contraception, same-sex relationships, and same-sex marriage.
Correct.He also tap danced around conditions like hydrocephalus in fetuses. While medical science has made it possible for babies to survive into adulthood, it doesn't answer the question of the medical cost, and burden placed on the parents. And thus the effects on the other children who may suffer because of finite parental resources.
It looks like different health conditions are detected throughout a pregnancy. So a pregnancy would be deemed healthy until a condition is detected at the various stages of scans. That's why there are various scan dates throughout a pregnancy. I remember when we had kids, the thickness of the skin was scanned on the back of their necks, I assume it was to check a certain condition. We had two healthy boys, 2 1/2 years apart, when we wanted them due to following basic sex education and contraception, until the time we wanted kids. Anyone who does this wouldn't have to protest in the streets.But it means that any life can be healthy one minute, and deadly ill weeks later.
So don't count your chickens.
You dance around saying they were born healthy, without mention of their developmental condition. As many defects have progressive manifestations.I have friends whose granddaughter's baby was diagnosed in utero with a rare brain condition that caused a large void in her brain. The doctors advised the young lady to abort, as the child would likely live only hours after birth.
The child was born perfectly healthy, with no problems at all.
I've known two other couples who were advised to abort due to the child having catastrophic conditions. Both couples refused. Both children were born healthy.
Where there is life, there is hope.
Conservatives were one advocates of individual liberty, that individuals knew best how to conduct their private lives, not government.Ok, but what about the scenario that I just asked
Probably in the opinion of science as well until an abnormality is detected on one of the various scans that are offered throughout the pregnancy. And because of human error, the odd abnormality sometimes missed.In your opinion.
And you’re entitled to your opinion.
Others may disagree.
Individuals are at liberty to make such decisions, consistent with their own good conscience – not the state.
Ah, ok. We'll take it that you won't answer itConservatives were one advocates of individual liberty, that individuals knew best how to conduct their private lives, not government.
Clearly that’s no longer the case.
What about for rape an incest. Where conception is neither planned, nor preventable.It looks like different health conditions are detected throughout a pregnancy. So a pregnancy would be deemed healthy until a condition is detected at the various stages of scans. That's why there are various scan dates throughout a pregnancy. I remember when we had kids, the thickness of the skin was scanned on the back of their necks, I assume it was to check a certain condition. We had two healthy boys, 2 1/2 years apart, when we wanted them due to following basic sex education and contraception, until the time we wanted kids. Anyone who does this wouldn't have to protest in the streets.
They believe in small government, until it comes to the bedroom. In which case they want the state to intrude into every aspect.Conservatives were one advocates of individual liberty, that individuals knew best how to conduct their private lives, not government.
Clearly that’s no longer the case.
Those equate to less than 1% of abortions. It's also part of the moral dilemma.What about for rape an incest. Where conception is neither planned, nor preventable.
Yet many states make no exception for it. Essentially dooming those women, and in some cases children, to bear the spawn of criminals.Those equate to less than 1% of abortions. It's also part of the moral dilemma.
