Ukraine War is Result of Beyond Belief STUPIDEST "Diplomacy" in History

[MarcATL]

So the Ukrainians get to keep 1/2 of their country and 1/2 of their capital city. Great deal, give the Russians for free what they couldn't capture with their military.

That's the Russia first logic of Trump supporting MAGATs.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

So the Ukrainians get to keep 1/2 of their country and 1/2 of their capital city. Great deal, give the Russians for free what they couldn't capture with their military.

They can keep Kiev as long as you live up to the original agreement and stay neutral

 

[gipper]

Ukraine War is Result of Beyond Belief STUPIDEST "Diplomacy" in History​

7 Apr 2024

Remember when we were told that electing Donald Trump would lead to World War III and that electing Joe Biden would be a "return to normalcy" since the adults would be back in charge? How's that working out especially in the light of Biden's puppet masters bringing us to the brink of WW III due to involving us in the incredibly AVOIDABLE Ukraine War? And even though they walked us into the entirely unnecessary Ukraine war they were mercifully given an out when a few weeks into the war Ukraine and Russia agreed to a peace deal contingent on Ukraine agreeing not to join NATO. Unfortunately the sheer stupidity of Biden's puppet masters was so massive that they actually sent Boris Johnson to Ukraine to KILL that peace agreement. And now that the proxy war against Russia via Ukraine is winding down after many thousands of Ukrainians dead and the destruction of that country, the Biden puppet masters are now attempting to make things even WORSE by pathetic Antony Blinken insisting that Ukraine WILL join NATO. Why?

Commentary:
It's either extreme stupidity or extreme TDS or both.
As always, the Democrat idiots have everything backwards.
Installing Biden was and still is the closest prelude to WW3 we’ve had since the Missiles of October back in ‘62.
The election of Trump WAS ‘the adults back in charge’ move that has freaked out the childish, incompetent and amateurish DC Deep State run by democrats.
War has always been the preferred method to cover up corruption, financial Rape and Fraud committed by Bankers and Government working together to enslave the public.
Do his Chinese masters think they can survive a nuclear war so they push one between Putin and Joe . They get what’s left of Earth if they do survive.
If Trump wins, expect Ukraine and Russia sitting down with him to end the nonsense. We all see that happening, he’ll do it in spite of the obstacles the Democrat Neo-Marxists will put in front of him, to prevent it. The usual suspects need not to be mentioned.

The war is about money, as all wars are. Western billionaires want control of Russian natural resources and Putin refuses. So, they demand their stooges in DC instigate provoke and continue the war all to the detriment of the Ukrainian people. To say nothing of the economic costs incurred by the American people.

This has happened over and over throughout history.

 

[alang1216]

They can keep Kiev as long as you live up to the original agreement and stay neutral

How about this as a counter offer? An internationally run referendum that gives everyone in the country of Ukraine, to include Crimea and Donbas, that will let the Ukrainians decide what happens to them.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

How about this as a counter offer? An internationally run referendum that gives everyone in the country of Ukraine, to include Crimea and Donbas, that will let the Ukrainians decide what happens to them.

Yeah as soon as we give the West Coast back to the Paiute Indians

The mistake the Ukies made with Crimea was they thought they could turn it over to the USA.

Donbas voted OVERWHELMINGLY to rejoin Russia.

 

[krichton]

MAGA: Make Russia Great Again!

 

[Theowl32]

Ukraine War is Result of Beyond Belief STUPIDEST "Diplomacy" in History​

7 Apr 2024

Remember when we were told that electing Donald Trump would lead to World War III and that electing Joe Biden would be a "return to normalcy" since the adults would be back in charge? How's that working out especially in the light of Biden's puppet masters bringing us to the brink of WW III due to involving us in the incredibly AVOIDABLE Ukraine War? And even though they walked us into the entirely unnecessary Ukraine war they were mercifully given an out when a few weeks into the war Ukraine and Russia agreed to a peace deal contingent on Ukraine agreeing not to join NATO. Unfortunately the sheer stupidity of Biden's puppet masters was so massive that they actually sent Boris Johnson to Ukraine to KILL that peace agreement. And now that the proxy war against Russia via Ukraine is winding down after many thousands of Ukrainians dead and the destruction of that country, the Biden puppet masters are now attempting to make things even WORSE by pathetic Antony Blinken insisting that Ukraine WILL join NATO. Why?

Commentary:
It's either extreme stupidity or extreme TDS or both.
As always, the Democrat idiots have everything backwards.
Installing Biden was and still is the closest prelude to WW3 we’ve had since the Missiles of October back in ‘62.
The election of Trump WAS ‘the adults back in charge’ move that has freaked out the childish, incompetent and amateurish DC Deep State run by democrats.
War has always been the preferred method to cover up corruption, financial Rape and Fraud committed by Bankers and Government working together to enslave the public.
Do his Chinese masters think they can survive a nuclear war so they push one between Putin and Joe . They get what’s left of Earth if they do survive.
If Trump wins, expect Ukraine and Russia sitting down with him to end the nonsense. We all see that happening, he’ll do it in spite of the obstacles the Democrat Neo-Marxists will put in front of him, to prevent it. The usual suspects need not to be mentioned.

Every single decision made my the democrats and rinos (democrats forever and rinos since the 1960s) have been committed to destroying the United States REPUBLIC AND they have won. As a result of taking over the education system and selling on this notion that we are a "democracy." I'm a broken record, but it's true and you can trace the gradual descent of the country and demoralization that began as far back as the 1930s and before.

 

[alang1216]

The mistake the Ukies made with Crimea was they thought they could turn it over to the USA.

Got a link to support that or are you just making stuff up?

Donbas voted OVERWHELMINGLY to rejoin Russia.

As Stalin said, It's Not Who Votes That Counts, It's Who Counts The Votes". The vote was, as I recall, never recognized by any nation except North Korea.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Got a link to support that or are you just making stuff up?


As Stalin said, It's Not Who Votes That Counts, It's Who Counts The Votes". The vote was, as I recall, never recognized by any nation except North Korea.

North Korea AND Crimea.

 

[gipper]

How about this as a counter offer? An internationally run referendum that gives everyone in the country of Ukraine, to include Crimea and Donbas, that will let the Ukrainians decide what happens to them.

The US is so "pro-Ukraine" that it has gotten 500,000 Ukrainians killed and is losing much of the country's territory. It's all a result of the illegal Obama/Nuland Maidan coup and Biden's insistence that Ukraine not negotiate with Russia--catastrophic blunders!

All for money!

 

[alang1216]

The US is so "pro-Ukraine" that it has gotten 500,000 Ukrainians killed and is losing much of the country's territory.

I think the blame for killing Ukrainians should be on those that killed them and stole their territory, Russia.

It's all a result of the illegal Obama/Nuland Maidan coup and Biden's insistence that Ukraine not negotiate with Russia--catastrophic blunders!

Whatever the US wanted, it was the Ukrainians that did the deeds there and it is on Ukraine to negotiate or not.

All for money!

What money? Ukraine will be a needy basket case for a generation. They have nothing to offer.

 

[gipper]

I think the blame for killing Ukrainians should be on those that killed them and stole their territory, Russia.


Whatever the US wanted, it was the Ukrainians that did the deeds there and it is on Ukraine to negotiate or not.


What money? Ukraine will be a needy basket case for a generation. They have nothing to offer.

No. The blame for the death and destruction rests on the US. Had the US not supported Ukraine and provoked war, there would be no war.

Ukraine’s elites wanted war, as long as they had US Empire support. They knew they’d get rich off war, as all elites do in war.

What money??? LOL. Do you not know the enormous sums given to the US war machine and Ukraine for war. Money taken from the American people and some will be kicked back to the two crime families.

War is a racket the Mafia can only dream of.

 

[alang1216]

No. The blame for the death and destruction rests on the US. Had the US not supported Ukraine and provoked war, there would be no war.

Russia invaded the country, THAT is what 'provoked' war.

Ukraine’s elites wanted war, as long as they had US Empire support. They knew they’d get rich off war, as all elites do in war.

So now it was the Ukraine elites that 'provoked' war.

What money??? LOL. Do you not know the enormous sums given to the US war machine and Ukraine for war. Money taken from the American people and some will be kicked back to the two crime families.

War is a racket the Mafia can only dream of.

There was never a shortage of money for the US war machine. Ukraine didn't get cash so much as old equipment. US money to help Ukraine was spent in the US. Same for most other countries.

 

[gipper]

Russia invaded the country, THAT is what 'provoked' war.


So now it was the Ukraine elites that 'provoked' war.


There was never a shortage of money for the US war machine. Ukraine didn't get cash so much as old equipment. US money to help Ukraine was spent in the US. Same for most other countries.

We can’t debate if you aren’t informed.

 

[Doc7505]

They can keep Kiev as long as you live up to the original agreement and stay neutral

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Then there's the important Ukrainian Port of Sevastapol that allows for shipments of food and manufactured products to Europe.

 

[justoffal]

So what does Ukraine get for their surrender?

They don't have to surrender That was never part of the deal.

All they have to do is agree not to join NATO.

That of course doesn't sit too well with NATO and the bankers That back NATO.

 

[alang1216]

We can’t debate if you aren’t informed.

Informed? Is that another word for delusional, conspiratorial, or a 5th columnist?

 

[alang1216]

They don't have to surrender That was never part of the deal.

All they have to do is agree not to join NATO.

That of course doesn't sit too well with NATO and the bankers That back NATO.

Do they get Crimea and Donbas back or do they have to surrender them forever?

The irony of this whole situation is that China is doing to Russia in the east exactly what Russia is doing to Ukraine in the west. If the Russians think anyone will come to their aid they are delusional.

 

[justoffal]

Do they get Crimea and Donbas back or do they have to surrender them forever?

The irony of this whole situation is that China is doing to Russia in the east exactly what Russia is doing to Ukraine in the west. If the Russians think anyone will come to their aid they are delusional.

Yes I know what's going on with Russia's most eastern provinces. And you're right they have nothing to bitch about because it would put them squarely and double standard territory. China is also doing something similar on the border of India although India has one hell of a military and would make a tremendous foe.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

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Then there's the important Ukrainian Port of Sevastapol that allows for shipments of food and manufactured products to Europe.

That's always going to be Russia's from now on