Donald Trump appears to confirm real reason behind 'set up' Zelensky takedown with JD Vance

Look you are canadian which means, I could not care less what you think!
Which is not to say she is wrong...

I think a few people in US are going, we just wanted immigration and inflation sorted... Not this shit..

Let this mess play out...
Tariffs are going to be a disaster for US economy... I say the rest of the first world need to work with each other and cut US out, especially where they can target Red States...

As for Russia, Let's just play this on a bit longer... EU has to step in and pay the bill... China or EU can get the Mineral deal... There is a real opportunity for EU and China to get a mutually beneficial deal out of this one...
Considering the ball dropped by USAID, Russia is weak, EU and China are probably best carving up the world influence and soft power..
China wants water and Russia might be too weak to object if this war is dragged on. Chian and Russia have a history of grabbing stuff off each other when they are weak China wants access to Lake Baikal, if Russia is economically on its knees they can get that..

Yep, China might really like that... Then ban Russian Oil from using the Red Sea/Suez Canal (that is going to India), ask OPEC to just increase supply enough to keep a check on global prices...

Yep, things are going well.. Well, for everyone but US..
 
Which is not to say she is wrong...

I think a few people in US are going, we just wanted immigration and inflation sorted... Not this shit..

Let this mess play out...
Tariffs are going to be a disaster for US economy... I say the rest of the first world need to work with each other and cut US out, especially where they can target Red States...

As for Russia, Let's just play this on a bit longer... EU has to step in and pay the bill... China or EU can get the Mineral deal... There is a real opportunity for EU and China to get a mutually beneficial deal out of this one...
Considering the ball dropped by USAID, Russia is weak, EU and China are probably best carving up the world influence and soft power..
China wants water and Russia might be too weak to object if this war is dragged on. Chian and Russia have a history of grabbing stuff off each other when they are weak China wants access to Lake Baikal, if Russia is economically on its knees they can get that..

Yep, China might really like that... Then ban Russian Oil from using the Red Sea/Suez Canal (that is going to India), ask OPEC to just increase supply enough to keep a check on global prices...

Yep, things are going well.. Well, for everyone but US..
Well you are wrong, we do not want to fund the war in Ukraine, we helped, we have our own who need help, we need to cut our spending on useless wars, useless DEI initiatives, funding trans projects for other countries. If you would like to give to those things, start a go fund me.
 

Michael McCune

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Many of you probably watched what took place between Donald Trump and Zelenskyy tonight. Whether you're a Democrat or a Republican, you might be thinking to yourself, Oh my God, Donald Trump just screwed up.
However, as a lifelong practitioner of martial arts, strategy, and philosophy, let me explain the difference between what you believe you witnessed and what actually happened.

Donald Trump has been under constant political persecution since the beginning of his first term. Over time, he has learned to be patient and calculated.
Tonight, Zelenskyy was invited to the Oval Office. However, both Trump and JD Vance knew exactly what Zelenskyy was going to do—he would use this opportunity, in front of the American people, to make a power play. Both Trump and Vance anticipated this.
When Zelenskyy began appealing to the emotions of the American people, JD Vance stepped in, accusing him of disrespecting Donald Trump. This was brilliant strategy. It’s important to understand that Zelenskyy is trying to gain access to NATO.

Trump knew this but could not allow it to happen. If Ukraine joins NATO, the U.S. would be bound by NATO’s collective defense agreement—an attack on one is an attack on all.
Now consider the larger implications: Ukraine and Russia despise each other. If Ukraine were to become a NATO member, any future skirmish between them would obligate the U.S. to enter into direct conflict with Russia. This would mean World War III. And if that happened, China would have to choose a side—they would almost certainly align with Russia.
So what you witnessed tonight was a setup. Trump and JD Vance knew that the only way to achieve peace was to strategically align, at least on the surface, with Russia. Why? Because Russia would never sign a peace treaty if Ukraine were admitted into NATO.

This is why Trump dismantled Zelenskyy’s argument. And when Zelenskyy, seeing his play failing, tried to backtrack and offer a treaty, Trump refused.
Zelenskyy’s real intent was clear—he would not agree to peace unless security guarantees were in place. But what was he actually saying? That NATO must accept Ukraine. However, Russia would never agree to peace, knowing that NATO, their historical adversary, would surround them.
Zelenskyy, Putin, and Trump all knew this. Zelenskyy, thinking he had Democratic support, believed he could make this bold move on live television. But Trump and Vance saw right through it and outmaneuvered him.
They knew that, in the short term, Democrats and the media would try to use this moment against them. But they also knew they had two years before midterms to prove their strategy was the right one. So they held their ground—brilliantly so.
Now, Zelenskyy will have no choice but to back down and accept Trump's terms. But here’s the genius part—Trump is actually protecting Ukraine without dragging the U.S. into war.

By negotiating a mineral deal, Trump ensures that Americans will be involved in Ukraine’s mining industry. This prevents Russia from launching an invasion, because attacking Ukraine would mean endangering American lives—something that would force the U.S. to respond.
Trump played both sides like a master chess player. In the end, Zelenskyy will have no choice but to concede, because without U.S. support, Ukraine cannot win a prolonged war against Russia. And once U.S. companies have mining operations in Ukraine, Putin will be unable to attack without triggering massive international consequences.
Don’t underestimate Donald Trump. In this game of chess, he’s 10 moves ahead of everyone.
Interesting post. With Ukraine not a member of NATO, that would leave Russia the option of attacking Ukraine at will. He could easily stop long enough to rebuild his forces and have another go at it. Attack -regroup - attack -regroup as many times as it might take for Russia to acquire all of Ukraine. Yep. That sounds like something trump would encourage.
 
Interesting post. With Ukraine not a member of NATO, that would leave Russia the option of attacking Ukraine at will. He could easily stop long enough to rebuild his forces and have another go at it. Attack -regroup - attack -regroup as many times as it might take for Russia to acquire all of Ukraine. Yep. That sounds like something trump would encourage.
Hmm, yet Putin started this under Biden, you people are amazingly stupid!
 
Biden didn't actively help Russia in their efforts to illegally attack Ukraine. Trump did.
That is just factually untrue Putin stayed in Russia till the weakling Biden took over!
 

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