Donald Trump appears to confirm real reason behind 'set up' Zelensky takedown with JD Vance

[Blaster]

Trump keeps hinting of compromising America's foreign policy of aggression against Russia!

I gotta tell you folks, he treading on ground that's full of land mines! He could find that his fat a-s is stuck up in the trees if he's careless.

Is Trump's surrender to China next?

You are a moron.

 

[Donald H]

You are a moron.

Yeah o.k. but those two stories from RT has to make you think that Trump is really serious about selling the farm to Russia!

I'm really getting worried that he won't live long enough to celebratw with a big mac and fries?

 

[Blaster]

Yeah o.k. but those two stories from RT has to make you think that Trump is really serious about selling the farm to Russia!

I'm really getting worried that he won't live long enough to celebratw with a big mac and fries?

You are really a fucking idiot.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

A psychopath and a narcissist's highest priority is to be able to humiliate a person of some status, in front of a large audience.

Nothing else was accomplished but the satisfying of Trump's deepest needs.

You mean Zelensky was trying to humiliate Trump and Vance? That sure backfired on that narcissist.

 

[struth]

MSN

Michael McCune​

2d ·
Many of you probably watched what took place between Donald Trump and Zelenskyy tonight. Whether you're a Democrat or a Republican, you might be thinking to yourself, Oh my God, Donald Trump just screwed up.
However, as a lifelong practitioner of martial arts, strategy, and philosophy, let me explain the difference between what you believe you witnessed and what actually happened.

Donald Trump has been under constant political persecution since the beginning of his first term. Over time, he has learned to be patient and calculated.
Tonight, Zelenskyy was invited to the Oval Office. However, both Trump and JD Vance knew exactly what Zelenskyy was going to do—he would use this opportunity, in front of the American people, to make a power play. Both Trump and Vance anticipated this.
When Zelenskyy began appealing to the emotions of the American people, JD Vance stepped in, accusing him of disrespecting Donald Trump. This was brilliant strategy. It’s important to understand that Zelenskyy is trying to gain access to NATO.

Trump knew this but could not allow it to happen. If Ukraine joins NATO, the U.S. would be bound by NATO’s collective defense agreement—an attack on one is an attack on all.
Now consider the larger implications: Ukraine and Russia despise each other. If Ukraine were to become a NATO member, any future skirmish between them would obligate the U.S. to enter into direct conflict with Russia. This would mean World War III. And if that happened, China would have to choose a side—they would almost certainly align with Russia.
So what you witnessed tonight was a setup. Trump and JD Vance knew that the only way to achieve peace was to strategically align, at least on the surface, with Russia. Why? Because Russia would never sign a peace treaty if Ukraine were admitted into NATO.

This is why Trump dismantled Zelenskyy’s argument. And when Zelenskyy, seeing his play failing, tried to backtrack and offer a treaty, Trump refused.
Zelenskyy’s real intent was clear—he would not agree to peace unless security guarantees were in place. But what was he actually saying? That NATO must accept Ukraine. However, Russia would never agree to peace, knowing that NATO, their historical adversary, would surround them.
Zelenskyy, Putin, and Trump all knew this. Zelenskyy, thinking he had Democratic support, believed he could make this bold move on live television. But Trump and Vance saw right through it and outmaneuvered him.
They knew that, in the short term, Democrats and the media would try to use this moment against them. But they also knew they had two years before midterms to prove their strategy was the right one. So they held their ground—brilliantly so.
Now, Zelenskyy will have no choice but to back down and accept Trump's terms. But here’s the genius part—Trump is actually protecting Ukraine without dragging the U.S. into war.

By negotiating a mineral deal, Trump ensures that Americans will be involved in Ukraine’s mining industry. This prevents Russia from launching an invasion, because attacking Ukraine would mean endangering American lives—something that would force the U.S. to respond.
Trump played both sides like a master chess player. In the end, Zelenskyy will have no choice but to concede, because without U.S. support, Ukraine cannot win a prolonged war against Russia. And once U.S. companies have mining operations in Ukraine, Putin will be unable to attack without triggering massive international consequences.
Don’t underestimate Donald Trump. In this game of chess, he’s 10 moves ahead of everyone.

Yes, the entire thing was staged, Z was played by Dems who he met with before hand. It's tragic how the Dems are using Ukraine lives as pawns in their quest to undermine the Admin and peace. The Dems gave Putin what he wanted.

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Impact of Democratic advice​

The Oval Office meeting with Trump was meant to be a productive discussion about finalizing the deal, but quickly unravelled into a heated confrontation. Trump pushed back when Zelensky voiced concerns and, in the end, Trump ended the meeting abruptly, asking Zelensky to leave.

e outcome of the White House meeting was a disaster for Ukraine and a gift to Russian president Vladimir Putin, reported New York Post.

 

[berg80]

Donald Trump has been under constant political persecution since the beginning of his first term. Over time, he has learned to be patient and calculated.

 

[Dragonlady]

MSN

Michael McCune​

2d ·
Many of you probably watched what took place between Donald Trump and Zelenskyy tonight. Whether you're a Democrat or a Republican, you might be thinking to yourself, Oh my God, Donald Trump just screwed up.
However, as a lifelong practitioner of martial arts, strategy, and philosophy, let me explain the difference between what you believe you witnessed and what actually happened.

Donald Trump has been under constant political persecution since the beginning of his first term. Over time, he has learned to be patient and calculated.
Tonight, Zelenskyy was invited to the Oval Office. However, both Trump and JD Vance knew exactly what Zelenskyy was going to do—he would use this opportunity, in front of the American people, to make a power play. Both Trump and Vance anticipated this.
When Zelenskyy began appealing to the emotions of the American people, JD Vance stepped in, accusing him of disrespecting Donald Trump. This was brilliant strategy. It’s important to understand that Zelenskyy is trying to gain access to NATO.

Trump knew this but could not allow it to happen. If Ukraine joins NATO, the U.S. would be bound by NATO’s collective defense agreement—an attack on one is an attack on all.
Now consider the larger implications: Ukraine and Russia despise each other. If Ukraine were to become a NATO member, any future skirmish between them would obligate the U.S. to enter into direct conflict with Russia. This would mean World War III. And if that happened, China would have to choose a side—they would almost certainly align with Russia.
So what you witnessed tonight was a setup. Trump and JD Vance knew that the only way to achieve peace was to strategically align, at least on the surface, with Russia. Why? Because Russia would never sign a peace treaty if Ukraine were admitted into NATO.

This is why Trump dismantled Zelenskyy’s argument. And when Zelenskyy, seeing his play failing, tried to backtrack and offer a treaty, Trump refused.
Zelenskyy’s real intent was clear—he would not agree to peace unless security guarantees were in place. But what was he actually saying? That NATO must accept Ukraine. However, Russia would never agree to peace, knowing that NATO, their historical adversary, would surround them.
Zelenskyy, Putin, and Trump all knew this. Zelenskyy, thinking he had Democratic support, believed he could make this bold move on live television. But Trump and Vance saw right through it and outmaneuvered him.
They knew that, in the short term, Democrats and the media would try to use this moment against them. But they also knew they had two years before midterms to prove their strategy was the right one. So they held their ground—brilliantly so.
Now, Zelenskyy will have no choice but to back down and accept Trump's terms. But here’s the genius part—Trump is actually protecting Ukraine without dragging the U.S. into war.

By negotiating a mineral deal, Trump ensures that Americans will be involved in Ukraine’s mining industry. This prevents Russia from launching an invasion, because attacking Ukraine would mean endangering American lives—something that would force the U.S. to respond.
Trump played both sides like a master chess player. In the end, Zelenskyy will have no choice but to concede, because without U.S. support, Ukraine cannot win a prolonged war against Russia. And once U.S. companies have mining operations in Ukraine, Putin will be unable to attack without triggering massive international consequences.
Don’t underestimate Donald Trump. In this game of chess, he’s 10 moves ahead of everyone.

It is impossible to underestimate Donald Trump. In this game of chess, he's playing tiddly winks.

Donald Trump and JD Vance put on a reality TV show for Russia, allowing TASS to live stream their whole attack on Zelensky to Russia. The Russians are now publicly celebrating the "smack down" administered by the Trump on Zelensky.

A Russian state media reporter gained entry to the Oval Office for Trump-Zelensky sit-down

A member of Russia’s state-owned news agency gained access to the Oval Office on Friday to cover President Trump’s sit-down with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky – even as the AP and Reuters were barred from the high-level meeting. The White House said the journalist was not authorized to...

www.ctvnews.ca

In the meantime, Hegseth has told the Pentagon to drop all cyber investigations of the Russians, saying they are no threat to the USA, and Trump is asking for ways of reducing and eliminating sanctions imposed on Russia for invading the Ukraine.

U.S. Defense Department Halts Cyber Operations Against Russia – Reports - The Moscow Times

U.S.

www.themoscowtimes.com

Donald Trump is fully capitulating and surrendering himself to Valdimir Putin. This isn't going over well with the American people.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-administration-disbands-task-force-targeting-russian-oligarchs-2025-02-06/

 

[Concerned American]

he won't live long enough to celebratw with a big mac and fries?

Jealous because he's not eating a Tim Hortons burger and poutine? LMAO

 

[Woodznutz]

We can settle this thing once and for all, just make Ukraine the 51st state. Putin wouldn't attack the U.S. homeland.

 

[Donald H]

We can settle this thing once and for all, just make Ukraine the 51st state. Putin wouldn't attack the U.S. homeland.

Putin has already warned what it will take to attack the US. l
And vice versa of course.

 

[Crepitus]

LMAO Creepy is signing up his family to be the US boots on the ground in Ukraine if Putin breaks whatever peace deal is signed.

A. When Putin breaks whatever "deal" is signed.

B. One kid is in law school and the other permanently disabled.

And C. you aren't supposed to bring family into the discussion here.

 

[Rawley]

A. When Putin breaks whatever "deal" is signed.

B. One kid is in law school and the other permanently disabled.

And C. you aren't supposed to bring family into the discussion here.

Well you new hero Volodymyr says Vlad has already broken the 1994 agreement

So when are you and your "loved ones" going to get your boots on the ground and protect his ass?

 

[Crepitus]

Volodymyr says Vlad has already broken the 1994 agreement

Well DUH!! If he had not there would be no fighting.

 

[TimFitz]

A psychopath and a narcissist's highest priority is to be able to humiliate a person of some status, in front of a large audience.

Nothing else was accomplished but the satisfying of Trump's deepest needs.

That is true. Especially a narcisstic sociopath like Trump.

 

[TimFitz]

MSN

Michael McCune​

2d ·
Many of you probably watched what took place between Donald Trump and Zelenskyy tonight. Whether you're a Democrat or a Republican, you might be thinking to yourself, Oh my God, Donald Trump just screwed up.
However, as a lifelong practitioner of martial arts, strategy, and philosophy, let me explain the difference between what you believe you witnessed and what actually happened.

Donald Trump has been under constant political persecution since the beginning of his first term. Over time, he has learned to be patient and calculated.

Patience is not a Trump virtue. But feral calculating is.

Tonight, Zelenskyy was invited to the Oval Office. However, both Trump and JD Vance knew exactly what Zelenskyy was going to do—he would use this opportunity, in front of the American people, to make a power play. Both Trump and Vance anticipated this.
When Zelenskyy began appealing to the emotions of the American people, JD Vance stepped in, accusing him of disrespecting Donald Trump. This was brilliant strategy. It’s important to understand that Zelenskyy is trying to gain access to NATO.

Trump knew this but could not allow it to happen. If Ukraine joins NATO, the U.S. would be bound by NATO’s collective defense agreement—an attack on one is an attack on all.

I assume that you don’t know that votes to induct another country, the vote has to be unanimous.

Which blows this claim up.

Now consider the larger implications: Ukraine and Russia despise each other. If Ukraine were to become a NATO member, any future skirmish between them would obligate the U.S. to enter into direct conflict with Russia. This would mean World War III. And if that happened, China would have to choose a side—they would almost certainly align with Russia.
So what you witnessed tonight was a setup. Trump and JD Vance knew that the only way to achieve peace was to strategically align, at least on the surface, with Russia. Why? Because Russia would never sign a peace treaty if Ukraine were admitted into NATO.

It definately a setup. It was set up to appeal to the parochial jingoism of many of his disciples, and to kiss Putin’s ass before the world..

It was also a show to cover up the fact that his “peacemaker” gambit has crashed and burned.

This is why Trump dismantled Zelenskyy’s argument. And when Zelenskyy, seeing his play failing, tried to backtrack and offer a treaty, Trump refused.
Zelenskyy’s real intent was clear—he would not agree to peace unless security guarantees were in place.

He has every right to expect that.

But what was he actually saying? That NATO must accept Ukraine. However, Russia would never agree to peace, knowing that NATO, their historical adversary, would surround them.
Zelenskyy, Putin, and Trump all knew this. Zelenskyy, thinking he had Democratic support, believed he could make this bold move on live television. But Trump and Vance saw right through it and outmaneuvered him.
They knew that, in the short term, Democrats and the media would try to use this moment against them. But they also knew they had two years before midterms to prove their strategy was the right one. So they held their ground—brilliantly so.
Now, Zelenskyy will have no choice but to back down and accept Trump's terms. But here’s the genius part—Trump is actually protecting Ukraine without dragging the U.S. into war.

By negotiating a mineral deal, Trump ensures that Americans will be involved in Ukraine’s mining industry. This prevents Russia from launching an invasion, because attacking Ukraine would mean endangering American lives—something that would force the U.S. to respond.
Trump played both sides like a master chess player. In the end, Zelenskyy will have no choice but to concede, because without U.S. support, Ukraine cannot win a prolonged war against Russia. And once U.S. companies have mining operations in Ukraine, Putin will be unable to attack without triggering massive international consequences.
Don’t underestimate Donald Trump. In this game of chess, he’s 10 moves ahead of everyone.

 

[Concerned American]

Patience is not a Trump virtue. But feral calculating is.


I assume that you don’t know that votes to induct another country, the vote has to be unanimous.

Which blows this claim up.


It definately a setup. It was set up to appeal to the parochial jingoism of many of his disciples, and to kiss Putin’s ass before the world..

It was also a show to cover up the fact that his “peacemaker” gambit has crashed and burned.


He has every right to expect that.

So tell us, when are you going to pack your bags and go over and support your tin horn dictator in Ukraine now that his banker has been kicked out of DC.

 

[Frankenstein]

It is impossible to underestimate Donald Trump. In this game of chess, he's playing tiddly winks.

Donald Trump and JD Vance put on a reality TV show for Russia, allowing TASS to live stream their whole attack on Zelensky to Russia. The Russians are now publicly celebrating the "smack down" administered by the Trump on Zelensky.

A Russian state media reporter gained entry to the Oval Office for Trump-Zelensky sit-down

A member of Russia’s state-owned news agency gained access to the Oval Office on Friday to cover President Trump’s sit-down with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky – even as the AP and Reuters were barred from the high-level meeting. The White House said the journalist was not authorized to...

www.ctvnews.ca

In the meantime, Hegseth has told the Pentagon to drop all cyber investigations of the Russians, saying they are no threat to the USA, and Trump is asking for ways of reducing and eliminating sanctions imposed on Russia for invading the Ukraine.

U.S. Defense Department Halts Cyber Operations Against Russia – Reports - The Moscow Times

U.S.

www.themoscowtimes.com

Donald Trump is fully capitulating and surrendering himself to Valdimir Putin. This isn't going over well with the American people.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-administration-disbands-task-force-targeting-russian-oligarchs-2025-02-06/

Look you are canadian which means, I could not care less what you think!

 

[Frankenstein]

Patience is not a Trump virtue. But feral calculating is.


I assume that you don’t know that votes to induct another country, the vote has to be unanimous.

Which blows this claim up.


It definately a setup. It was set up to appeal to the parochial jingoism of many of his disciples, and to kiss Putin’s ass before the world..

It was also a show to cover up the fact that his “peacemaker” gambit has crashed and burned.


He has every right to expect that.

Trump is so far above and beyond your reasoning it is comical.
Sure and he is trying to leverage Trump into WW3 by giving him NATO Membership.
Getting mineral rights would have had Americans citizens on the ground in Ukraine making Putin be very careful in his attacks.
He s not a NATO member and has no rights!

 

[Lisa558]

Zelensky is used to bamboozling dipshits like our Democrats and our radical liberal media. They're idiots. But when he thought he'd stroll in and play Trump the same way, he made a major miscalculation. I guess he learned the hard way that Trump-Vance aren't the same as Democrats, the US and Euro media or Euro politicians, all nincompoops who can be manipulated like hungry little fat kids. Zelensky and liberals deserve each other.

How could he have been so dumb as not to realize that the new sheriff doesn’t roll over for ingrates trying to play him?

 

[Lisa558]

As I recall, it was the Democrat president three years ago who gave Russia permission to invade Ukraine, as long as it was “minor.”

What type of idiot president tells the Communists it’s OK to invade its neighbor?!