UK and France deploy troops to Ukraine to pressure Vladimir Putin: "We must weaken his war machinery"

[braalian]

Okay, I'll bite, what's TPS?

 

[Deadstick]

No, Duke. Study history. Russia is yet again the aggressor. Please don't make Reagan weep at you pretending to be Republican.

Well they sure invaded Nazi Germany.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Moscow is 19th century compared to Urban America.

 

[Deadstick]

Moscow is 19th century compared to Urban America.

I just shown it doesn't look that way, you have been brainwashed for years, we see the same nonsense about China.

 

[Deadstick]

Oh, do you mean the four oblasts? Sure, it's Ukrainian teritory. Those who live there who can't live by that fact should move east.

NATO? Ukraine has every right to do so.

Europe will not allow Putin to dictate anything about what goes on to his west.

If he interferes, west Rusia will be given to the West, the Russians will be allowed to run the Silk Road east of the Urals, and Serbia become the US.

 

[Deadstick]

As usual you are ignoring the bad behavior of your side. The Serbs had been slaughtering and mass raping the Croats. The West got involved to stop the mass murder. Oh yes, and the Russians were providing massive amounts of military, economic and intelligence support to the Serbs while embargoing weapons to the Croats.

Bollocks! the Croat Regime are fascists those bastards murdered almost a million Serbs in WW2 they even sickened the Nazis with their atrocities and that takes some doing, the Serbs were not going to allow that to happen again, and the US were flying weapons into Tuzla airport every day for the Bosnian Islamo Fascists, the Croats launched operation flash with US help against the Krijina Serbs killing many and cleansing 200 thousand, so shove it up your Nazi arse.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

I just shown it doesn't look that way, you have been brainwashed for years, we see the same nonsense about China.

You have been brainwashed. You are gaslighting.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

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You concede.

 

[Kruska]

As usual you are ignoring the bad behavior of your side. The Serbs had been slaughtering and mass raping the Croats. The West got involved to stop the mass murder. Oh yes, and the Russians were providing massive amounts of military, economic and intelligence support to the Serbs while embargoing weapons to the Croats.

I am not ignoring anything - but YOU are "ignoring" the FACT that NATO took 5 years to train and upgrade the Croatian Armed Forces - thus enabling Croatia to free their territory from Serbian control and occupation.

As for "mass-murder" committed by Serbian militias, you are obviously confusing Croatia with Bosnia.

Unlike Croatia's history to Serbia, (they have absolutely nothing in common), Ukraine's history to Russia is entirely different.
Since Ukraine has been an inseparable cultural/ethnicity to Russia and vice versa (they are the same people) - only forcefully separated for around 250 years when today's Ukraine, was occupied and controlled by Poland-Lithuania.

And it's this "Polish-Lithuanian" influence that generated a distinction between the Ukrainian and Russian language, and formed a "new-Ukrainian culture" beheld by those Ukrainians that adhered to the Polish-Lithuanian culture - as in contra to those Ukrainians that adhered to their original common Russian culture.

It seems that you know very little about Ukraine's/Russian history, as opposed to Ukraine's/Polish history, and as such to the causes that led to this war since 2014, independent of the US led Eastward expansion and it's continued encirclement (after the Cold war) of Russia.

Therefore there are two SEPARATE issues:

1. Ukraine's internal problem with Polish-Ukrainians contra Russian-Ukrainians - which started of with Polish-Ukrainians after 1990, subduing Russian-Ukrainians - treating them as inferiors, which resulted in Russian-Ukrainians revolting in the Eastern provinces. Followed by massacres conducted by NAZI-Asov units onto Russian-Ukrainians - prompted Russia to support these Russian-Ukrainian provinces.

So in the case of Croatia and specif. Bosnia you fully support US and NATO actions - but you deny Russia the very same actions in Ukraine's Eastern provinces - you're a hypocrite?

2. Russia under Putin, countering NATO expansion and it's strangling of the Russian economy and sphere of influence. Therefore resolutely opposed to Ukraine becoming a NATO/EU member.

 

[Kruska]

......... Now the question is about destruction of the western economy.

Don't worry, Trump took over that part.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Don't worry, Trump took over that part.

As Putin's creature, yes.

 

[Kruska]

As Putin's creature, yes.

He isn't Putin's creature - he simply shares the same mindset in regards to an autocratic leadership, that involves self-enrichment coupled with "propagating" ones own nation ahead of everyone else.

He is however entirely different (dumb) in regards to "isolation" aka anti-Globalization, as opposed to e.g. Russia, Turkey, China, etc. etc. The latter are fully aware that globalization is to the benefit of their nations and allows in parallel for a global and/or regional domination. Whilst an isolationist USA goes nowhere aside from declining.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

He isn't Putin's creature - he simply shares the same mindset in regards to an autocratic leadership, that involves self-enrichment coupled with "propagating" ones own nation ahead of everyone else.

He is however entirely different (dumb) in regards to "isolation" aka anti-Globalization, as opposed to e.g. Russia, Turkey, China, etc. etc. The latter are fully aware that globalization is to the benefit of their nations and allows in parallel for a global and/or regional domination. Whilst an isolationist USA goes nowhere aside from declining.

Yes, he is Putin's comfort boy.

 

[The Duke]

https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-...y-moment-as-critical-week-begins-12541713Show a town that Russia has "liberated".
How many building are over 1 foot high, hmm?

I noticed Kruska gave a disagree, yet failed to show any pics of Ukrainian liberated towns.
Probably because they're smoking piles of rubble with bodies still everywhere and the buildings that are
standing were abandoned long ago.

What Gaza would look like if it had soviet-era apartments in it.

Ukraine war latest: Russian offensives in key areas reveal Putin's plan for Ukraine, analysts say

A leading think tank says Russian commanders are operating as if Vladimir Putin does not intend to end the war in the near future, regardless of ceasefire negotiations. Read the latest here and watch military analyst Michael Clarke answer your questions below.

news.sky.com

 

[Deadstick]

I noticed Kruska gave a disagree, yet failed to show any pics of Ukrainian liberated towns.
Probably because they're smoking piles of rubble with bodies still everywhere and the buildings that are
standing were abandoned long ago.

What Gaza would look like if it had soviet-era apartments in it.

Ukraine war latest: Russian offensives in key areas reveal Putin's plan for Ukraine, analysts say

A leading think tank says Russian commanders are operating as if Vladimir Putin does not intend to end the war in the near future, regardless of ceasefire negotiations. Read the latest here and watch military analyst Michael Clarke answer your questions below.

news.sky.com

Thats what towns tend to look like after intense close combat, just like Mariupol where there was street to street house to house fighting, you won't find this footage on Youtube or Google and other western sources because they have to continue with the narrative that Russia destroyed these towns from the air and indiscriminate shelling, when in actual fact the Ukrainians turned the City into Stalingrad so the Russians had to go in on the ground and dig the bastards out

 

[Ringo]

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Get out of Ukraine, or your towns will look the same.

 

[Zavulon]

I noticed Kruska gave a disagree, yet failed to show any pics of Ukrainian liberated towns.
Probably because they're smoking piles of rubble with bodies still everywhere and the buildings that are
standing were abandoned long ago.

What Gaza would look like if it had soviet-era apartments in it.

Ukraine war latest: Russian offensives in key areas reveal Putin's plan for Ukraine, analysts say

A leading think tank says Russian commanders are operating as if Vladimir Putin does not intend to end the war in the near future, regardless of ceasefire negotiations. Read the latest here and watch military analyst Michael Clarke answer your questions below.

news.sky.com

Is is that difficult to google videos from, say, recuperated Mariupol?

 

[theHawk]

MSN

OK, this means the adults are in charge again.

I am surprised that the lessons of 1938 and the failure almost ninety years ago at Munich are still remembered in western Europe.

This begins with meetings in London on Thursday from the participating nations

The mission is to protect the ceasefire, but in reality it it is to keep Russia from taking Ukraine, just like South Korea is protected by more than 20,000 ground and air force personnel.

Russia would be stupid to encroach on these forces. Stay east, little Russia, stay east.

A three week old blog?

LOL

 

[Ringo]

Unlike Croatia's history to Serbia, (they have absolutely nothing in common),

I guess that's why their languages are almost identical?