U.S. State Dept.: Killig ISIS won't defeat them. We must give them jobs.

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Where on Earth do they get people like this?

Did we get the Japanese and Germans jobs, to get them to end WWII?

No. We killed them. Lots of them.

And we kept on killing them. And we developed bigger and better tanks, warships, planes, and bombs (some of them nuclear), to kill them even better and faster. And we demonstrated we were willing and able to use those things to kill unprecedented numbers of them. And we persuaded them that we would go on doing so until none of them were left alive to crawl out of the rubble. And that there was nothing they could do, to stop us.

And at that point, they agreed to end the war against us. And they were defeated.

(BTW, the Germans and Japanese weren't nearly as vicious as ISIS is today.)

And we didn't offer them a single job. (Until much later.)

Because back then, we knew that getting them jobs WOULD NOT MAKE THEM STOP ATTACKING US AND THEIR NEIGHBORS.

Did this State Department "spokesman" come up with this new "plan" by herself, that she announced yesterday?

Or did some higher State Dept official tell it to her, and tell her to go out and announce it?

Are the people who came up with this plan and announced it as U.S. policy yesterday, collecting unemployment benefits today?

If not, WHY NOT???

Why are we still paying these people money, to work at the State Dept.?

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State Department spokeswoman floats jobs as answer to ISIS Fox News

State Department spokeswoman floats jobs as answer to ISIS

Published February 17, 2015

What the West really needs to take on the Islamic State is ... a jobs program.

That's what a top State Department spokeswoman suggested when asked in a TV interview Monday night about what the U.S.-led coalition is doing to stop the slaughter of civilians by Islamic State militants across the region.

"We're killing a lot of them, and we're going to keep killing more of them. ... But we cannot win this war by killing them," department spokeswoman Marie Harf said on MSNBC's "Hardball." "We need ... to go after the root causes that leads people to join these groups, whether it's lack of opportunity for jobs, whether --"

At that point, Harf was interrupted by host Chris Matthews, who pointed out, "There's always going to be poor people. There's always going to be poor Muslims."

Harf continued to argue that the U.S. should work with other countries to "help improve their governance" and "help them build their economies so they can have job opportunities for these people."

She acknowledged there's "no easy solution" and said the U.S. would still take out ISIS leaders. But Harf said: "If we can help countries work at the root causes of this -- what makes these 17-year-old kids pick up an AK-47 instead of trying to start a business?"
 

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Holy toledo! You have maniacs running the country!!!! I just heard this woman responding to Chris Matthews in a clip on the radio. She thinks shovel ready jobs are the answer.

Oh and "we can't win this war by killing them". Aaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh!
 

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Holy toledo! You have maniacs running the country!!!! I just heard this woman responding to Chris Matthews in a clip on the radio. She thinks shovel ready jobs are the answer.

Oh and "we can't win this war by killing them". Aaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh!
Keeping America a great power is a lot different then going after the isis. We'll maybe we can keep the economy running in order to pay for the massive fucking military in order to fight isis? Ever thought of that.
 

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Holy toledo! You have maniacs running the country!!!! I just heard this woman responding to Chris Matthews in a clip on the radio. She thinks shovel ready jobs are the answer.

Oh and "we can't win this war by killing them". Aaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh!
Keeping America a great power is a lot different then going after the isis. We'll maybe we can keep the economy running in order to pay for the massive fucking military in order to fight isis? Ever thought of that.
The choice is fight them or surrender while they burn Americans alive. There isn't another choice. Ever think of that?
 

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ISIS is not like a rational foe. They are a doomsday cult. They don't care about jobs, they don't care about dying or whether or not their cause is "lost". They just want to bring about the apocalypse that their prophet predicted.

A better economic outlook might help keep them from attracting SOME, but I find it hard to believe that there are Muslims who are trying to decide between a job and a suicide mission.
 

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STATE DEPT. SPOX ON ISIS: “WE CANNOT WIN THIS WAR BY KILLING THEM”

State Department Spokesperson Marie Harf told Chris Matthews tonight that we cannot win this war with ISIS by killing them. She said we have to get to the root cause of why people are attracted to Jihad — you know like poverty, jobs, etc…

“We’re killing a lot of them and we’re going to keep killing more of them. So are the Egyptians, so are the Jordanians. They’re in this fight with us. But we cannot win this war by killing them. We cannot kill our way out of this war. We need in the medium to longer term to go after the root causes that leads people to join these groups,
 

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STATE DEPT. SPOX ON ISIS: “WE CANNOT WIN THIS WAR BY KILLING THEM”

State Department Spokesperson Marie Harf told Chris Matthews tonight that we cannot win this war with ISIS by killing them. She said we have to get to the root cause of why people are attracted to Jihad — you know like poverty, jobs, etc…

“We’re killing a lot of them and we’re going to keep killing more of them. So are the Egyptians, so are the Jordanians. They’re in this fight with us. But we cannot win this war by killing them. We cannot kill our way out of this war. We need in the medium to longer term to go after the root causes that leads people to join these groups,
do you have an opinion on that quote?
i can't find fault with it. you can't bomb an idea to death.
 
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ISIS is not like a rational foe. They are a doomsday cult.
The same can be said about some of our State Dept. personnel, apparently.

Elections have consequences.

Electing liberals especially has consequences.

How many exhibits like this do we need, before we finally stop doing it?
 

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Holy toledo! You have maniacs running the country!!!! I just heard this woman responding to Chris Matthews in a clip on the radio. She thinks shovel ready jobs are the answer.

Oh and "we can't win this war by killing them". Aaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh!
State Dept. is a real monkey house.
 

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STATE DEPT. SPOX ON ISIS: “WE CANNOT WIN THIS WAR BY KILLING THEM”

State Department Spokesperson Marie Harf told Chris Matthews tonight that we cannot win this war with ISIS by killing them. She said we have to get to the root cause of why people are attracted to Jihad — you know like poverty, jobs, etc…

“We’re killing a lot of them and we’re going to keep killing more of them. So are the Egyptians, so are the Jordanians. They’re in this fight with us. But we cannot win this war by killing them. We cannot kill our way out of this war. We need in the medium to longer term to go after the root causes that leads people to join these groups,
do you have an opinion on that quote?
i can't find fault with it. you can't bomb an idea to death.
Worked pretty well in WWII...... war is slaughter.... we dont have it in us anymore which is why we lose.
 

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ISIS is not like a rational foe. They are a doomsday cult. They don't care about jobs, they don't care about dying or whether or not their cause is "lost". They just want to bring about the apocalypse that their prophet predicted.

A better economic outlook might help keep them from attracting SOME, but I find it hard to believe that there are Muslims who are trying to decide between a job and a suicide mission.
Yup! An Islamist apocalyptic death cult. When are we gonna sponsor job training programs in the ME?
 

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I heard the audio clip on Medved's replacement's show. Mind numbing. So I guess ISIS is made of guys that can't get decent work so they have to join a cult that saws heads off of people. Maybe they have a good pension plan?
 

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Who believes that any of these guys in ISIS really wants a shovel ready job?

Beheading and living like a jihadist as a day job or flipping burgers?

:lmao:
 

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STATE DEPT. SPOX ON ISIS: “WE CANNOT WIN THIS WAR BY KILLING THEM”

State Department Spokesperson Marie Harf told Chris Matthews tonight that we cannot win this war with ISIS by killing them. She said we have to get to the root cause of why people are attracted to Jihad — you know like poverty, jobs, etc…

“We’re killing a lot of them and we’re going to keep killing more of them. So are the Egyptians, so are the Jordanians. They’re in this fight with us. But we cannot win this war by killing them. We cannot kill our way out of this war. We need in the medium to longer term to go after the root causes that leads people to join these groups,
do you have an opinion on that quote?
i can't find fault with it. you can't bomb an idea to death.
WWII take your choice of major bombings. That's why none of us are speaking either German or Japanese.
 

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STATE DEPT. SPOX ON ISIS: “WE CANNOT WIN THIS WAR BY KILLING THEM”

State Department Spokesperson Marie Harf told Chris Matthews tonight that we cannot win this war with ISIS by killing them. She said we have to get to the root cause of why people are attracted to Jihad — you know like poverty, jobs, etc…

“We’re killing a lot of them and we’re going to keep killing more of them. So are the Egyptians, so are the Jordanians. They’re in this fight with us. But we cannot win this war by killing them. We cannot kill our way out of this war. We need in the medium to longer term to go after the root causes that leads people to join these groups,
do you have an opinion on that quote?
i can't find fault with it. you can't bomb an idea to death.
Worked pretty well in WWII...... war is slaughter.... we dont have it in us anymore which is why we lose.
actually, wwii proves her right. we spent a lot of money and effort rebuilding germany and japan - giving the people jobs - after the war.

and the dire economic situation in germany prior to wwii proves the point further.
 

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I heard the audio clip on Medved's replacement's show. Mind numbing. So I guess ISIS is made of guys that can't get decent work so they have to join a cult that saws heads off of people. Maybe they have a good pension plan?
Yeah, 72 virgins.
 

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