U.S. signs nuke deal with Iran

[occupied]

As if we are closing the door to reinstating sanctions of even attacking them if they get out of line or break the agreemnt. Are you forgetting that we still have a military and virtual control of the world's banking system?

We had that all along. And Iran has been making rapid progress in its nuclear development, breaking agreements right and left, and laughing all the way to the bank (or to Ground Zero).

Did somebody say "We are powerless"?

You seem to think this deal prevents us from protecting our country and our interests in the future, like we are just going to be sitting here helpless while Iran does whatever they want. It's bullshit, this deal gives us more power over the future of US/Iran relations than we have ever had.

 

[Darkwind]

So...

Iran gets to sell more oil...to the tune of 100 million dollars a day.......a whole lot of terror can be financed with that kind of money
Iran gets to build ballistic missiles.......
Iran gets to build their bomb......

And what did we get for this?


We get to watch....

As if we are closing the door to reinstating sanctions of even attacking them if they get out of line or break the agreemnt. Are you forgetting that we still have a military and virtual control of the world's banking system? Christ what a bunch of dummies thinking we are powerless.

Are you really this stupid?

Once the deal is done, the UN and other signatories will have moved on and will not back any more sanctions, or reinstatement of sanctions.

Its amusing however, that now you are saying we'll go to war if they violate our agreement....yet fought tooth and nail to get to this point when war could be avoided by simply increasing sanctions now and backing away from the deal.....until they come to the table with NO CONDITIONS at all.....

Obama just made the entire world less safe...And I'll blame the Republicans too because they won't have the nads to stand up and say no...

 

[bendog]

So...

Iran gets to sell more oil...to the tune of 100 million dollars a day.......a whole lot of terror can be financed with that kind of money
Iran gets to build ballistic missiles.......
Iran gets to build their bomb......

And what did we get for this?


We get to watch....

As if we are closing the door to reinstating sanctions of even attacking them if they get out of line or break the agreemnt. Are you forgetting that we still have a military and virtual control of the world's banking system? Christ what a bunch of dummies thinking we are powerless.

Are you really this stupid?

Once the deal is done, the UN and other signatories will have moved on and will not back any more sanctions, or reinstatement of sanctions.

Its amusing however, that now you are saying we'll go to war if they violate our agreement....yet fought tooth and nail to get to this point when war could be avoided by simply increasing sanctions now and backing away from the deal.....until they come to the table with NO CONDITIONS at all.....

Obama just made the entire world less safe...And I'll blame the Republicans too because they won't have the nads to stand up and say no...

Again, you rely on the false assumption that the world would keep sanctions on to achieve a "better" deal, which would involve Iran at least giving up its entire nuclear program. That wasn't happening.

 

[Darkwind]

So...

Iran gets to sell more oil...to the tune of 100 million dollars a day.......a whole lot of terror can be financed with that kind of money
Iran gets to build ballistic missiles.......
Iran gets to build their bomb......

And what did we get for this?


We get to watch....

As if we are closing the door to reinstating sanctions of even attacking them if they get out of line or break the agreemnt. Are you forgetting that we still have a military and virtual control of the world's banking system? Christ what a bunch of dummies thinking we are powerless.

Are you really this stupid?

Once the deal is done, the UN and other signatories will have moved on and will not back any more sanctions, or reinstatement of sanctions.

Its amusing however, that now you are saying we'll go to war if they violate our agreement....yet fought tooth and nail to get to this point when war could be avoided by simply increasing sanctions now and backing away from the deal.....until they come to the table with NO CONDITIONS at all.....

Obama just made the entire world less safe...And I'll blame the Republicans too because they won't have the nads to stand up and say no...

Again, you rely on the false assumption that the world would keep sanctions on to achieve a "better" deal, which would involve Iran at least giving up its entire nuclear program. That wasn't happening.

Yeah, things never happen when people with no principle, backbone, or intelligence are sitting at the negotiating table....

When *****'s sit with terrorists, the terrorists win.......Guess which one we are?

 

[bendog]

So...

Iran gets to sell more oil...to the tune of 100 million dollars a day.......a whole lot of terror can be financed with that kind of money
Iran gets to build ballistic missiles.......
Iran gets to build their bomb......

And what did we get for this?


We get to watch....

As if we are closing the door to reinstating sanctions of even attacking them if they get out of line or break the agreemnt. Are you forgetting that we still have a military and virtual control of the world's banking system? Christ what a bunch of dummies thinking we are powerless.

Are you really this stupid?

Once the deal is done, the UN and other signatories will have moved on and will not back any more sanctions, or reinstatement of sanctions.

Its amusing however, that now you are saying we'll go to war if they violate our agreement....yet fought tooth and nail to get to this point when war could be avoided by simply increasing sanctions now and backing away from the deal.....until they come to the table with NO CONDITIONS at all.....

Obama just made the entire world less safe...And I'll blame the Republicans too because they won't have the nads to stand up and say no...

Again, you rely on the false assumption that the world would keep sanctions on to achieve a "better" deal, which would involve Iran at least giving up its entire nuclear program. That wasn't happening.

Yeah, things never happen when people with no principle, backbone, or intelligence are sitting at the negotiating table....

When *****'s sit with terrorists, the terrorists win.......Guess which one we are?

We shoudda bombed em.

 

[Darkwind]

So...

Iran gets to sell more oil...to the tune of 100 million dollars a day.......a whole lot of terror can be financed with that kind of money
Iran gets to build ballistic missiles.......
Iran gets to build their bomb......

And what did we get for this?


We get to watch....

As if we are closing the door to reinstating sanctions of even attacking them if they get out of line or break the agreemnt. Are you forgetting that we still have a military and virtual control of the world's banking system? Christ what a bunch of dummies thinking we are powerless.

Are you really this stupid?

Once the deal is done, the UN and other signatories will have moved on and will not back any more sanctions, or reinstatement of sanctions.

Its amusing however, that now you are saying we'll go to war if they violate our agreement....yet fought tooth and nail to get to this point when war could be avoided by simply increasing sanctions now and backing away from the deal.....until they come to the table with NO CONDITIONS at all.....

Obama just made the entire world less safe...And I'll blame the Republicans too because they won't have the nads to stand up and say no...

Again, you rely on the false assumption that the world would keep sanctions on to achieve a "better" deal, which would involve Iran at least giving up its entire nuclear program. That wasn't happening.

Yeah, things never happen when people with no principle, backbone, or intelligence are sitting at the negotiating table....

When *****'s sit with terrorists, the terrorists win.......Guess which one we are?

We shoudda bombed em.

There was no need to bomb them....Just needed the balls to tighten the noose even further until they dropped any pretense of wanting conditions at the negotiating table....

Another 3 to 5 years would probably have finished them off.

 

[occupied]

As if we are closing the door to reinstating sanctions of even attacking them if they get out of line or break the agreemnt. Are you forgetting that we still have a military and virtual control of the world's banking system? Christ what a bunch of dummies thinking we are powerless.

Are you really this stupid?

Once the deal is done, the UN and other signatories will have moved on and will not back any more sanctions, or reinstatement of sanctions.

Its amusing however, that now you are saying we'll go to war if they violate our agreement....yet fought tooth and nail to get to this point when war could be avoided by simply increasing sanctions now and backing away from the deal.....until they come to the table with NO CONDITIONS at all.....

Obama just made the entire world less safe...And I'll blame the Republicans too because they won't have the nads to stand up and say no...

Again, you rely on the false assumption that the world would keep sanctions on to achieve a "better" deal, which would involve Iran at least giving up its entire nuclear program. That wasn't happening.

Yeah, things never happen when people with no principle, backbone, or intelligence are sitting at the negotiating table....

When *****'s sit with terrorists, the terrorists win.......Guess which one we are?

We shoudda bombed em.

There was no need to bomb them....Just needed the balls to tighten the noose even further until they dropped any pretense of wanting conditions at the negotiating table....

Another 3 to 5 years would probably have finished them off.

Bullshit, expecting unconditional surrender from Iranians is like expecting unconditional surrender from America. These people have a national and cultural pride that rivals our own. They are nothing like Iraq where sectarian shit kept them ever becoming a real nation. Iran has been a real nation since Europeans lived in tribes and sacrificed virgins to the nature spirits, the idea that they would ever just buckle to the West is ludicrous because they never have, not in nearly 3000 years.

 

[Rozman]

Who thinks Iran will honor this agreement?

 

[occupied]

Who thinks Iran will honor this agreement?

There's a good possibility they will, if not we can always go back to the endless futile shit we've been doing.

 

[Rozman]

How about as a condition to this deal Iran release all the Americans they are holding.
Or maybe not a condition but a sign that Iran wants to make nice.....

 

[occupied]

How about as a condition to this deal Iran release all the Americans they are holding.
Or maybe not a condition but a sign that Iran wants to make nice.....

Baby steps, two years ago we were not even talking to each other. We both have good reason not to trust each other but it has to start somewhere.