U.S. military leaders

[Confederate Soldier]

He's a kid .....uh boy...figures
Probably home schooled by his single mom

Somehow that's worse than being indoctrinated by the government in mass form?

 

[MisterBeale]

lol he wants to restore the Russian empire back to its pre-1917 borders. He thinks he has the right to tell his neighbors they can't join NATO and who and when they can do business.

 

[MisterBeale]

Lol you have zero credibility on anything, so you're just projecting here. lol at 'libertarian anarchist'; that's something a spoiled white16 year old raised by hippies would run around thinking is something kewl.

No, actually. . . it is this guy right here;

A lone man refusing to do the Nazi salute, 1936​

A lone man refusing to do the Nazi salute, 1936 - Rare Historical Photos

Within the picture a lone man stood with arms crossed as hundreds of men and women around him held up their arms in salute and allegiance to the Nazi Party.

rarehistoricalphotos.com

It is the opposite of a Statist.

Definition of STATIST

an advocate of statism… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

 

[DudleySmith]

Of course given Russia's long history of imperialism you want to peddle the myth they're being 'provoked'. lol sure thing Jane. My aunt loved your exercise videos.

Do we need maps of Russia in 1500 to compare with Russia in 1914? lol Then we can look at a map from 1945 to 1947. lol

 

[MisterBeale]

Of course given Russia's long history of imperialism you want to peddle the myth they're being 'provoked'.

Not a myth, documented fact. This has been building since the Atlantacist powers have been breaking their promises, and betraying Russia, after the fall of the Berlin wall. Here are the receipts. Video, documents, and wikileak cabals.

No myth. You have no excuse to believe propaganda now.




It was revealed in the Wikileaks cabals. Everyone that has followed the story, and watched when Tory Nuland orchestrated coup, said the EU could pound sand, everyone knows this. You are either ignorant, or gaslighting the forum and yourself. I'd like to think you are a decent fellow, but we all know, when it comes to stuff like this, you are an out and out liar.

US gov’t knew NATO expansion to Ukraine would force Russia to intervene​

US gov't knew NATO expansion to Ukraine would force Russia to intervene - Geopolitical Economy Report

US Ambassador William Burns, now CIA director, admitted in 2008 embassy cable that NATO expansion to Ukraine crosses Russia's security "redlines" and could lead to violence which would force Moscow to intervene.

multipolarista.com

". . . Ukraine and Georgia’s NATO aspirations not only touch a raw nerve in Russia, they engender serious concerns about the consequences for stability in the region. Not only does Russia perceive encirclement, and efforts to undermine Russia’s influence in the region, but it also fears unpredictable and uncontrolled consequences which would seriously affect Russian security interests. Experts tell us that Russia is particularly worried that the strong divisions in Ukraine over NATO membership, with much of the ethnic-Russian community against membership, could lead to a major split, involving violence or at worst, civil war. In that eventuality, Russia would have to decide whether to intervene; a decision Russia does not want to have to face.. . .

Burns’ warnings came true just a few years later.. . ."

Cable: 08MOSCOW265_a

The CIA knew what it was doing. . . it wanted war, and it got one.

NATO should have never have been expanded. . . guarantees were given to Gorbachev, the west was NOT to be allowed to, and Putin is right. Nor were they allowed to place missiles in any of the new NATO members, which they have, since talks about the unification of Germany occurred.

Clausewitz: War as Politics by other Means | Online Library of Liberty

Related Links: Clausewitz Subject Area: War and Peace Source: Carl von Clausewitz, On War, trans. Col. J.J. Graham. New and Revised edition with Introduction and Notes by Col. F.N. Maude, in Three Volumes (London: Kegan Paul, Trench, Trubner & C., 1918). Vol. 1. Chapter: CHAPTER I: WHAT IS WAR...

oll.libertyfund.org

WAR IN EUROPE AND THE RISE OF RAW PROPAGANDA​

WAR IN EUROPE AND THE RISE OF RAW PROPAGANDA

WAR IN EUROPE AND THE RISE OF RAW PROPAGANDA

johnpilger.com

". . . Setting aside the manoeuvres and cynicism of geopolitics, whomever the players, this historical memory is the driving force behind Russia’s respect-seeking, self-protective security proposals, which were published in Moscow in the week the UN voted 130-2 to outlaw Nazism. They are:

- NATO guarantees that it will not deploy missiles in nations bordering Russia. (They are already in place from Slovenia to Romania, with Poland to follow)
- NATO to stop military and naval exercises in nations and seas bordering Russia.
- Ukraine will not become a member of NATO.
- the West and Russia to sign a binding East-West security pact.
- the landmark treaty between the US and Russia covering intermediate-range nuclear weapons to be restored. (The US abandoned it in 2019)

These amount to a comprehensive draft of a peace plan for all of post-war Europe and ought to be welcomed in the West. But who understands their significance in Britain? What they are told is that Putin is a pariah and a threat to Christendom.. . . "

Newly Declassified Documents: Gorbachev Told NATO Wouldn't Move Past East German Border​

Newly Declassified Documents: Gorbachev Told NATO Wouldn't Move Past East German Border

So what happenned?

nationalinterest.org

". . .Gorbachev only accepted German reunification—over which the Soviet Union had a legal right to veto under treaty—because he received assurances that NATO would not expand after he withdrew his forces from Eastern Europe from James Baker, President George H.W. Bush, West German foreign minister Hans-Dietrich Genscher, West German Chancellor Helmut Kohl, the CIA Director Robert Gates, French President Francois Mitterrand, British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, British foreign minister Douglas Hurd, British Prime Minister John Major, and NATO secretary-general Manfred Woerner.

Indeed, as late as March 1991, the British were reassuring Gorbachev that they could not foresee circumstances under which NATO might expand into Eastern and Central Europe. As former British Ambassador to the Soviet Union recounted in March 5, 1991, Rodric Braithwaite, both British foreign minister Douglas Hurd and British Prime Minister John Major told the Soviet that NATO would not expand eastwards.

“I believe that your thoughts about the role of NATO in the current situation are the result of misunderstanding,” Major had told Gorbachev. We are not talking about strengthening of NATO. We are talking about the coordination of efforts that is already happening in Europe between NATO and the West European Union, which, as it is envisioned, would allow all members of the European Community to contribute to enhance [our] security.”

US, UK, France Promised USSR Not to Expand NATO East of Germany, Newly Discovered Document Proves

21 Feb 2022 - A newly discovered document provides more evidence that Western governments broke their promise not to expand NATO eastward after German reunification. Notes from a 1991 meeting prove that the US, UK, France, and Germany assured the Soviet Union that NATO would not expand east. ...

www.transcend.org

". . The 2+4 negotiations were talks in 1990 that allowed for the reunification of Germany, featuring capitalist West Germany and socialist East Germany (the 2) along with the United States, Soviet Union, Britain, and France (the 4).

Chrobog’s comments in the notes, therefore, confirm that the Western powers had promised the USSR in 1990 that they would not expand NATO eastward after German reunification.

Further clarifying this fact, the document adds that there was a “general agreement that membership of NATO and security guarantees [are] unacceptable” for countries east of Germany.. . ."

 

[MisterBeale]

lol if Ukraine falls and the gangster goes after Poland we will be seeing all the posts by the Jane Fonda channelers about all those neo-Nazi Poles and their corruption next.

 

[DudleySmith]

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Says the shrieking loon babbling about 'WW III N STUFF!!!!" OH NOES!!!! NATZEES!!!! STATISTS!!!! lol

 

[DudleySmith]

Not a myth, documented fact. This has been building since the Atlantacist powers have been breaking their promises, and betraying Russia, after the fall of the Berlin wall. Here are the receipts. Video, documents, and wikileak cabals.

No myth. You have no excuse to believe propaganda now.




It was revealed in the Wikileaks cabals. Everyone that has followed the story, and watched when Tory Nuland orchestrated coup, said the EU could pound sand, everyone knows this. You are either ignorant, or gaslighting the forum and yourself. I'd like to think you are a decent fellow, but we all know, when it comes to stuff like this, you are an out and out liar.

US gov’t knew NATO expansion to Ukraine would force Russia to intervene​

US gov't knew NATO expansion to Ukraine would force Russia to intervene - Geopolitical Economy Report

US Ambassador William Burns, now CIA director, admitted in 2008 embassy cable that NATO expansion to Ukraine crosses Russia's security "redlines" and could lead to violence which would force Moscow to intervene.

multipolarista.com

". . . Ukraine and Georgia’s NATO aspirations not only touch a raw nerve in Russia, they engender serious concerns about the consequences for stability in the region. Not only does Russia perceive encirclement, and efforts to undermine Russia’s influence in the region, but it also fears unpredictable and uncontrolled consequences which would seriously affect Russian security interests. Experts tell us that Russia is particularly worried that the strong divisions in Ukraine over NATO membership, with much of the ethnic-Russian community against membership, could lead to a major split, involving violence or at worst, civil war. In that eventuality, Russia would have to decide whether to intervene; a decision Russia does not want to have to face.. . .

Burns’ warnings came true just a few years later.. . ."

Cable: 08MOSCOW265_a

The CIA knew what it was doing. . . it wanted war, and it got one.

NATO should have never have been expanded. . . guarantees were given to Gorbachev, the west was NOT to be allowed to, and Putin is right. Nor were they allowed to place missiles in any of the new NATO members, which they have, since talks about the unification of Germany occurred.

Clausewitz: War as Politics by other Means | Online Library of Liberty

Related Links: Clausewitz Subject Area: War and Peace Source: Carl von Clausewitz, On War, trans. Col. J.J. Graham. New and Revised edition with Introduction and Notes by Col. F.N. Maude, in Three Volumes (London: Kegan Paul, Trench, Trubner & C., 1918). Vol. 1. Chapter: CHAPTER I: WHAT IS WAR...

oll.libertyfund.org

WAR IN EUROPE AND THE RISE OF RAW PROPAGANDA​

WAR IN EUROPE AND THE RISE OF RAW PROPAGANDA

WAR IN EUROPE AND THE RISE OF RAW PROPAGANDA

johnpilger.com

". . . Setting aside the manoeuvres and cynicism of geopolitics, whomever the players, this historical memory is the driving force behind Russia’s respect-seeking, self-protective security proposals, which were published in Moscow in the week the UN voted 130-2 to outlaw Nazism. They are:

- NATO guarantees that it will not deploy missiles in nations bordering Russia. (They are already in place from Slovenia to Romania, with Poland to follow)
- NATO to stop military and naval exercises in nations and seas bordering Russia.
- Ukraine will not become a member of NATO.
- the West and Russia to sign a binding East-West security pact.
- the landmark treaty between the US and Russia covering intermediate-range nuclear weapons to be restored. (The US abandoned it in 2019)

These amount to a comprehensive draft of a peace plan for all of post-war Europe and ought to be welcomed in the West. But who understands their significance in Britain? What they are told is that Putin is a pariah and a threat to Christendom.. . . "

Newly Declassified Documents: Gorbachev Told NATO Wouldn't Move Past East German Border​

Newly Declassified Documents: Gorbachev Told NATO Wouldn't Move Past East German Border

So what happenned?

nationalinterest.org

". . .Gorbachev only accepted German reunification—over which the Soviet Union had a legal right to veto under treaty—because he received assurances that NATO would not expand after he withdrew his forces from Eastern Europe from James Baker, President George H.W. Bush, West German foreign minister Hans-Dietrich Genscher, West German Chancellor Helmut Kohl, the CIA Director Robert Gates, French President Francois Mitterrand, British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, British foreign minister Douglas Hurd, British Prime Minister John Major, and NATO secretary-general Manfred Woerner.

Indeed, as late as March 1991, the British were reassuring Gorbachev that they could not foresee circumstances under which NATO might expand into Eastern and Central Europe. As former British Ambassador to the Soviet Union recounted in March 5, 1991, Rodric Braithwaite, both British foreign minister Douglas Hurd and British Prime Minister John Major told the Soviet that NATO would not expand eastwards.

“I believe that your thoughts about the role of NATO in the current situation are the result of misunderstanding,” Major had told Gorbachev. We are not talking about strengthening of NATO. We are talking about the coordination of efforts that is already happening in Europe between NATO and the West European Union, which, as it is envisioned, would allow all members of the European Community to contribute to enhance [our] security.”

US, UK, France Promised USSR Not to Expand NATO East of Germany, Newly Discovered Document Proves

21 Feb 2022 - A newly discovered document provides more evidence that Western governments broke their promise not to expand NATO eastward after German reunification. Notes from a 1991 meeting prove that the US, UK, France, and Germany assured the Soviet Union that NATO would not expand east. ...

www.transcend.org

". . The 2+4 negotiations were talks in 1990 that allowed for the reunification of Germany, featuring capitalist West Germany and socialist East Germany (the 2) along with the United States, Soviet Union, Britain, and France (the 4).

Chrobog’s comments in the notes, therefore, confirm that the Western powers had promised the USSR in 1990 that they would not expand NATO eastward after German reunification.

Further clarifying this fact, the document adds that there was a “general agreement that membership of NATO and security guarantees [are] unacceptable” for countries east of Germany.. . ."

And of course Russia itself is the cause of all that concern, as any idiot can see from its history in maps from 1553 on. Putin says Russia is entitled to all its all conquests, including parts of Poland, so all your hyperbolic cut and pastes are just nonsense. Conspiritards are the biggest suckers for propaganda on the planet, which is why it's hilarious to read their ridiculous
investigations'.

 

[gipper]

Of course given Russia's long history of imperialism you want to peddle the myth they're being 'provoked'. lol sure thing Jane. My aunt loved your exercise videos.

Do we need maps of Russia in 1500 to compare with Russia in 1914? lol Then we can look at a map from 1945 to 1947. lol

So you recognize imperialism by Russia, but not the US. How fucked up in the head are you?

 

[gipper]

Of course given Russia's long history of imperialism you want to peddle the myth they're being 'provoked'. lol sure thing Jane. My aunt loved your exercise videos.

Do we need maps of Russia in 1500 to compare with Russia in 1914? lol Then we can look at a map from 1945 to 1947. lol

Do you know how big the US is now versus the 13 original states?


lol

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

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All lies Mr B !

We're standing for freedom democracy


It's only getting worse
The F.u.s.a military has just announced it's hiring top level diversity and inclusion officers ....they're starting a world class program...lead by highly educated experts

From the Pentagon...salary 183 grand a year

All the way to Alaska starting pay 81 grand a year
No shit

Brink of war with Russia ...china aiming for a 400 ship navy ...

This will not end well

 

[MisterBeale]

Putin says Russia is entitled to all its all conquests, including parts of Poland,

Oh yeah? Prove it.

I linked primary sources and proof to my claims, video, a wikileaks cabal, and a photocopy of the primary note of a diplomatic note, all you did was "fake news," it, and deny reality.

SO? Give me a link, a video of the speech, and a the text of the translation where Putin has said such a thing.



Otherwise? You are full of shit and I have no more use of this conversation.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Hey, suck a chinese dick if you love their ads so much. Yeah the American ads suck, but we are still the biggest and best fighting force the world has ever seen. We do whatever the fuck we want. We can fly drones where we want, we bomb who we want, we kill who we want. Go hide under a bed and finger yourself with a Russian manufactured dildo. We are American, shit for brains. We conquer, we kill, we win. End of fucking story, maggot.

Seriously have you paid any attention to current events???? Since WWII, the only war the US government has won is OVER THE AMERICAN PEOPLE!! Lost Korea, Vietnam, Iran, Afghanistan and losing Ukraine.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Mein Fuher, I can walk!

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Sooooo what was the $32MM drone up to anyway?

 

[DudleySmith]

Oh yeah? Prove it.

I linked primary sources and proof to my claims, video, a wikileaks cabal, and a photocopy of the primary note of a diplomatic note, all you did was "fake news," it, and deny reality.

SO? Give me a link, a video of the speech, and a the text of the translation where Putin has said such a thing.



Otherwise? You are full of shit and I have no more use of this conversation.

NATZEES!!!! STATISTS!!!! lol you aren't going to admit to facts, you have a conspiracy theory to peddle. You really think Putin gets to order all his neighbors around and invade them if they don't kiss his ass. Cuz Biden!!!! lol

 

[MisterBeale]

Sooooo what was the $32MM drone up to anyway?

Trying to find a way to get American troops into the Ukrainian conflict?

If tactical/political method works, why would they stop using it?

. . . as the old saying goes, it is easy to apologize afterwards, than ask for permission first.

And as this forum demonstrates, and social media in and elections in general demonstrate, Americans just keep getting dumber and dumber, so this tactic will only get easier to employ.

Pentagon Papers - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[MisterBeale]

NATZEES!!!! STATISTS!!!! lol you aren't going to admit to facts, you have a conspiracy theory to peddle. You really think Putin gets to order all his neighbors around and invade them if they don't kiss his ass. Cuz Biden!!!! lol

Dude, I'm the one that posted primary facts, you haven't posted shit.

 

[DudleySmith]

Do you know how big the US is now versus the 13 original states?


lol

Do you? Most of it was unoccupied, and the few savages there were were little more than animals and murderers. lol you probably have wet dreams about them, no doubt.

 

[DudleySmith]

Oh yeah? Prove it.

Every map of the Russian Empire pre 1916 proves it, along with the lists of wars Russia ha been involed in.How many times did they invade Poland? lol at least 15 times, probably more. You don't care about proof, you just want to snivel and channel Jane Fonda.