U.S. Marines To Investigate Video of Soldiers Urinating on Corpses

I see this two ways. We send people off to kill other people, but we can't urinate on their corpse, which most likely was done by these Marines to "psych out" some nearby enemy supporters watching them.

We can also look at this just as the Marine Corps spokesman stated, that it does not reflect the core values that are held. In other words, discipline, and the perception that we are better than the enemy, must be maintained.

I would give them a good talking to for being dumb by getting filmed, then order them to do better in the future. No extra duty assigned as a consequence.

I see this as retribution for how those animals treat our dead solders.

When they manage to get one of our guys bodies they cut the corpse head then drag the headless corpse through the streets while the villagers tear it apart like a pride of lions.

Of course the animal extremists are quite proud of it, yet our ***** terrorist sympathizing government and the military brass go on an apology tour over our soldiers pissing on a corpse??

The US is one pathetic apologetic country...
 
I see this two ways. We send people off to kill other people, but we can't urinate on their corpse, which most likely was done by these Marines to "psych out" some nearby enemy supporters watching them.

We can also look at this just as the Marine Corps spokesman stated, that it does not reflect the core values that are held. In other words, discipline, and the perception that we are better than the enemy, must be maintained.

I would give them a good talking to for being dumb by getting filmed, then order them to do better in the future. No extra duty assigned as a consequence.

I see this as retribution for how those animals treat our dead solders.

When they manage to get one of our guys bodies they cut the corpse head then drag the headless corpse through the streets while the villagers tear it apart like a pride of lions.

Of course the animal extremists are quite proud of it, yet our ***** terrorist sympathizing government and the military brass go on an apology tour over our soldiers pissing on a corpse??

The US is one pathetic apologetic country...

Got an actual link for that, or are you blaming the Taliban for what happened in Mogadishu during Black Hawk Down?
 
Me Chinese me play joke me put pee pee in your Coke... Too soon? :)
 
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Interesting that most people on this thread have no idea about Standards of Conduct or the Geneva Conventions (if you've served, you know what those are as you get annual lectures on them), yet they keep saying that it's okay for those Marines to violate BOTH and they should just get extra duty and a chewing out.

No. That is not okay, especially since their behavior has turned this into an international incident as well as violated conduct standards and the Geneva Convention.

Like I said..........get all the information together, give 'em a courts martial. If it was stress induced from too many deployments, treat 'em before kicking 'em out with a BCD (Bad Conduct Discharge).

If they did it because they were showing off? Brig time and a BCD.
 
Me Chinese me play joke me put pee pee on your stinky rotting carcas... Still too soon?
 
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Are you trying somehow to defend this behavior? Indefensible.

No.... I am defending the Marines!

THEY ARE NOT MONSTERS!

Plus... I am not going to judge these guys for their actions. This is nothing compared to what they have seen the ENEMY do to their friends and fellow Marines.

So yes.... they were wrong for doing it, but SO THE **** WHAT!


I was with you til that last line.



Well, it's nothing compared what the taliban do.

Beheaddings
Genocide because others aren't muslim and/or want their freedom
Stonings
Lashes to death
forced marriage
public executions
public hangings
rape
adultery


Taliban-women.jpg

adultery-lower.jpg

religion-of-peace.jpg



THESE IMAGES ARE GRAPHIC!
VIEWER DISCRETION ADVISED! (But I encourage you to still look if you claim that the Marine's actions should be punished to the fullest extent instead of pardoned and given a very small consequence)

Here, a razorblade is taken to a baby's head in the name of islam
http://kamangir.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/r2493103858.jpg

A jewish family slaughtered by the religion of peace
http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/religion-of-peace-murders-1.jpg
http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/religion-of-peace-murders-2.jpg


CAUTION!!! THESE ARE IMAGES OF BEHEADDED PEOPLE!!!!!!!

http://barenakedislam.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/thailand-family-children-beheaded.jpg?w=590
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-mrxM7PBQy...liJwEztVAY/s1600/tucker_menchaca_beheaded.jpg
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/iraqi_soldier_beheaded_graphic_3.jpg
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/cap2.gif
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/cap3.gif




So don't you ******* dare start that shit, saying we are in the wrong. :talktothehand:
 
Like I said..........get all the information together, give 'em a courts martial. If it was stress induced from too many deployments, treat 'em before kicking 'em out with a BCD (Bad Conduct Discharge).

If they did it because they were showing off? Brig time and a BCD.
An Article 15 would be more than enough punishment.

Giving them a BCD is way to extreme.

The punishment should fit the crime. :cool:
 
Pee on a flag, piss a conservative off....

Pee on a dead terrorist, piss a liberal off....


:eusa_eh:
 
The real question here, is how culpable these Marines are for their actions; we don't have all the answers, but hopefully an investigation and a General Court will carefully look into that, instead of having a knee-jerk reaction to simply make an example of them. I'll tell you this; just from what I have seen anecdotally with some who have been on five or six combat deployments in the Sandbox, I am getting seriously concerned about the long-term psychological effects on these personnel.

That's some real shit right there Gadly, especially the last part. When this is all said and done and our men and women come home, we are going to be in unchartered territory dealing with Troops who have to come face to face with psychological terrors from 5 or 6 combat deployments, that is something we have never seen before, even in Vietnam.

yep, our men and women are coming home with broken bodies and broken minds. Their care and treatment must be high on the list of national prioities.

Well, it damn well ought to be, but considering what happened (or more precisely, DID NOT happen) after Vietnam, I'll believe it when I see it. If they treat our physically and mentally wounded like broken equipment for the scrap heap again, I am going to be one seriously pissed-off American vet.
 
Pee on a flag, piss a conservative off....

Pee on a dead terrorist, piss a liberal off....


:eusa_eh:

**** liberals.

They are only useful for when ACTUAL citizens need it.

Instead they need to be liberal with their own liberalism and stop extending their wrongly directed powers to non-citizens.

Boo-Hoo. Someone's feelings will eventually get hurt.
 
Like I said..........get all the information together, give 'em a courts martial. If it was stress induced from too many deployments, treat 'em before kicking 'em out with a BCD (Bad Conduct Discharge).

If they did it because they were showing off? Brig time and a BCD.
An Article 15 would be more than enough punishment.

Giving them a BCD is way to extreme.

The punishment should fit the crime. :cool:

And in the army we served in, Sunni, that's about how it would have been. For better or worse, we have been replaced by the new, politically-correct, PR-conscious military. We, my friend, are officially obsolete. I guess we should feel all warm and fuzzy about that, but somehow, I don't.
 
Pee on a flag, piss a conservative off....

Pee on a dead terrorist, piss a liberal off....


:eusa_eh:

**** liberals.

They are only useful for when ACTUAL citizens need it.

Instead they need to be liberal with their own liberalism and stop extending their wrongly directed powers to non-citizens.

Boo-Hoo. Someone's feelings will eventually get hurt.

blah ,blah, blah what ???
 
Like I said..........get all the information together, give 'em a courts martial. If it was stress induced from too many deployments, treat 'em before kicking 'em out with a BCD (Bad Conduct Discharge).

If they did it because they were showing off? Brig time and a BCD.
An Article 15 would be more than enough punishment.

Giving them a BCD is way to extreme.

The punishment should fit the crime. :cool:

A parade should be held for soldiers pissing on muslimes. Piss and muslime excrement go together.
 
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I see this two ways. We send people off to kill other people, but we can't urinate on their corpse, which most likely was done by these Marines to "psych out" some nearby enemy supporters watching them.

We can also look at this just as the Marine Corps spokesman stated, that it does not reflect the core values that are held. In other words, discipline, and the perception that we are better than the enemy, must be maintained.

I would give them a good talking to for being dumb by getting filmed, then order them to do better in the future. No extra duty assigned as a consequence.

I see this as retribution for how those animals treat our dead solders.

When they manage to get one of our guys bodies they cut the corpse head then drag the headless corpse through the streets while the villagers tear it apart like a pride of lions.

Of course the animal extremists are quite proud of it, yet our ***** terrorist sympathizing government and the military brass go on an apology tour over our soldiers pissing on a corpse??

The US is one pathetic apologetic country...

Got an actual link for that, or are you blaming the Taliban for what happened in Mogadishu during Black Hawk Down?
Remember what happened in Fallujah? (I know it doesn't matter, in the new, post-Vietnam military, but it does illustrate what kind of vermin we are fighting).
 
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I don't know man, after 10 years of this war I think its starting to change us. If I read a story like this before 9/11 I would have found it absolutely horrible, now 10 years into this war I see this video and can hardly blink, and I can even understand why the Marines would do this, although I do agree it is wrong. Things like and the stories about the Air Force hacking off body parts to make bodies fit into caskets, dropping off cremated Soldiers remains into garbage dumps etc, it just tells me we are losing our humanity with this war, these are all things that would absolutely horrify us befor 9/11, now we can read this, maybe condemn it, and than go about our day like nothing. It's fucked up.

I don't agree. Nurses and doctors see horrible things every day. We deal by using black humor, but we don't lose our humanity. And I think if you follow me, I stand up for what I believe to be the right thing. I've taken plenty of hits on here for it too and not posted one single whine thread!

We are at war. It would seem the enemy doesn't have the technology to do to our fighting men what they do to themselves unknowing, of course, that there are so many Americans who are agaisnt them.

Cameras shouldn't have been in Abu Graibe and they shouldn't be where these guys are!

Nurses and Doctors are not in a foreign country fighting for their lives, they do their jobs here in the US and get to go home to their families, that is not a good comparison and those are 2 completely different things, I don't even see how you could compare those 2 career fields, being a Marine Infantry man is nothing like being a medic civilian state side. :confused:


Then you simply are not aware of the horrible things we see on a daily basis. Nor of the black humor we use to deal with it. MDs and Nurses are not 'medics.' Medics only do the fetching and toting. WE have to deal with the horrors. Go to a children's cancer unit. And be the one having to administer an experimental medication.
 
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Like I said..........get all the information together, give 'em a courts martial. If it was stress induced from too many deployments, treat 'em before kicking 'em out with a BCD (Bad Conduct Discharge).

If they did it because they were showing off? Brig time and a BCD.
An Article 15 would be more than enough punishment.

Giving them a BCD is way to extreme.

The punishment should fit the crime. :cool:

And in the army we served in, Sunni, that's about how it would have been. For better or worse, we have been replaced by the new, politically-correct, PR-conscious military. We, my friend, are officially obsolete. I guess we should feel all warm and fuzzy about that, but somehow, I don't.
LOL, I know exactly what you mean.

Gadfly we are like Gunny Highway in this movie clip where Major Powers calls him an "anachronism" and a "relic" :lol:

 
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The real question here, is how culpable these Marines are for their actions; we don't have all the answers, but hopefully an investigation and a General Court will carefully look into that, instead of having a knee-jerk reaction to simply make an example of them. I'll tell you this; just from what I have seen anecdotally with some who have been on five or six combat deployments in the Sandbox, I am getting seriously concerned about the long-term psychological effects on these personnel.

That's some real shit right there Gadly, especially the last part. When this is all said and done and our men and women come home, we are going to be in unchartered territory dealing with Troops who have to come face to face with psychological terrors from 5 or 6 combat deployments, that is something we have never seen before, even in Vietnam.

But these were not conscripted as the Vietnam vets were. They joined of their own free will. Many have signed up for redeployment because that means they have a job and a regular income for their families. I know one right now who is pissed off he was called back from Afghanistan and is awaiting another deployment elsewhere because he will be working again. He enlisted. He was not drafted. Big difference.
 
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The real question here, is how culpable these Marines are for their actions; we don't have all the answers, but hopefully an investigation and a General Court will carefully look into that, instead of having a knee-jerk reaction to simply make an example of them. I'll tell you this; just from what I have seen anecdotally with some who have been on five or six combat deployments in the Sandbox, I am getting seriously concerned about the long-term psychological effects on these personnel.

That's some real shit right there Gadly, especially the last part. When this is all said and done and our men and women come home, we are going to be in unchartered territory dealing with Troops who have to come face to face with psychological terrors from 5 or 6 combat deployments, that is something we have never seen before, even in Vietnam.

But these were not conscripted as the Vietnam vets were. They joined of their own free will. Many have signed up for redeployment because that means they have a job and a regular income for their families. I know one right now who is pissed off he was called back from Afghanistan and is awaiting another deployment elsewhere because he will be working again. He enlisted. He was not drafted. Big difference.


So your saying since they asked for it (ask to be at the tip of the sword for the rest of us) they can come face to face with psychological terrors and deal with it with super human strength.

Nahh... I dont buy it.
 
The real question here, is how culpable these Marines are for their actions; we don't have all the answers, but hopefully an investigation and a General Court will carefully look into that, instead of having a knee-jerk reaction to simply make an example of them. I'll tell you this; just from what I have seen anecdotally with some who have been on five or six combat deployments in the Sandbox, I am getting seriously concerned about the long-term psychological effects on these personnel.

That's some real shit right there Gadly, especially the last part. When this is all said and done and our men and women come home, we are going to be in unchartered territory dealing with Troops who have to come face to face with psychological terrors from 5 or 6 combat deployments, that is something we have never seen before, even in Vietnam.

But these were not conscripted as the Vietnam vets were. They joined of their own free will. Many have signed up for redeployment because that means they have a job and a regular income for their families. I know one right now who is pissed off he was called back from Afghanistan and is awaiting another deployment elsewhere because he will be working again. He enlisted. He was not drafted. Big difference.

Sunshine, like about two-thirds of us who served in combat in Vietnam, I wasn't drafted either. Neither PTSD nor enemy fire made any distinction between draftee and volunteer, officer and enlisted. Both are equal opportunity destroyers of soldiers, regardless of age, rank or status. Battle is terrifying, for the officer, the NCO, or the conscript private; the first two will try not to show it in order to lead, but they feel it. Everyone has a breaking point, and given enough exposure to combat, anyone, however brave and dedicated, may find his. I suspect virtually all of us who fought in 'Nam have some degree or form of PTSD, and always will. If we are lucky it hasn't destroyed us. I've known draftees who came out in comparatively good shape, and professional soldiers so broken by PTSD that they eventually took their own lives.

In spite of all the advances in diagnosis and treatment of PTSD, these kids today are subject to combat every bit as intense as anything we experienced. In Vietnam, most did only one tour; no one was supposed to serve more than two (thought a comparative few did so). These people are doing more and more frequent deployments, often at a higher operational tempo than we experienced. There's no reason to believe they won't have the same problems we did, if not worse. They will have access to better, earlier, and hopefully more effective treatment than we did; and many of them will need it. I am not willing to see even one of them left to deal with it on his or her own, because I know how that feels; the flashbacks, the nightmares, the depression that comes with feeling it will never end, all of it; and worst of all, the feeling that no one understands, or cares.

We are getting old now, but we were there for each other over there, we've been there for each other back here, and we are going to be there for these kids, supporting them, advocating for them, and looking out for them, as long as there are any of us left.
 
If you embarrass the military, they will screw you. Bad.

They are marines and are better than this. I feel for those guys because they will get a little more than just a "stern talking to".
 
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