U.S. Formally Ends War In Afghanistan

[g5000]

Anyone care to hazard a guess at what's to come?

Sure.

The minute our troops are all gone from Stan the Taliban will take the country over again.

Karsai will flee or be killed and anyone who thinks the Afghan army trained by us will keep the country from falling to the Taliban is in for a rude awakening.

The Taliban will once again rule Afghanistan.

Perfect

The only part you left out was where American troops will be sent back. These will be called advisers, and not boots on the ground.

There are still 11,000 pairs of boots on the ground which will be remaining for the next two years.

 

[Carib Gyal]

Anyone care to hazard a guess at what's to come?

Sure.

The minute our troops are all gone from Stan the Taliban will take the country over again.

Karsai will flee or be killed and anyone who thinks the Afghan army trained by us will keep the country from falling to the Taliban is in for a rude awakening.

The Taliban will once again rule Afghanistan.

Perfect

The only part you left out was where American troops will be sent back. These will be called advisers, and not boots on the ground.

There are still 11,000 pairs of boots on the ground which will be remaining for the next two years.

Good. I agree with this. If Obama had done the same with Iraq as his own cabinet members recommended, there would be no ISIS right now.

Maybe he's not so hard to learn, after all.

 

[jwoodie]

It shows the folly of invading Iraq before Afghanistan was settled.

Care to expound?

There was no pressing reason to go into Iraq when we did. Should have waited to deal with Saddam until after Afghanistan was settled.

I agree that 9/11 was used as an excuse to invade Iraq, rather than to eliminate some immediate security threat. GW's well-intentioned, if unrealistic, goal was to create a new kind of Arab democracy that could serve as a model to break the unending conflicts in that region. A more practical (and less costly) goal would have been to depose Saddam and divide that "country"* into several administrative districts which could decide to unify or remain independent at some future date. In the meantime, we would have been able to establish a permanent military presence to counter Iranian threats to that region.

*Created out of thin air by British and French diplomats by drawing lines on a map in 1919 (Treaty of Versailles)

Well Intentioned? It was an outright lie!
Remember During the 2000 campaign, George W. Bush argued against nation building and foreign military entanglements. In the second presidential debate, he said: "I'm not so sure the role of the United States is to go around the world and say, 'This is the way it's got to be.'"
So what happened?

The 9/11 attacks happened in 2001, Brainiac.

 

[jwoodie]

Haha. The same people who were criticizing Obama for not getting us out of Afghanistan are now criticizing him for getting us out of Afghanistan.

Classic derangement from the usual suspects.

Speaking of derangement, who are these "same people" you are referring to? Please be specific.

 

[The Rabbi]

It shows the folly of invading Iraq before Afghanistan was settled.

Care to expound?

There was no pressing reason to go into Iraq when we did. Should have waited to deal with Saddam until after Afghanistan was settled.

A) Not true
B) Afghanistan is not settled even now.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The war in Afghanistan, fought for 13 bloody years and still raging, came to a formal end Sunday.

U.S. Formally Ends War In Afghanistan

The Iraq and Afghanistan conflicts, taken together, will be the most expensive wars in US history—totaling somewhere between $4 trillion and $6 trillion. Every hour, taxpayers in the United States paid $10.17 million for Cost of War in Afghanistan since 2001. So, what did we accomplish?

We have a police state in America

 

[The Rabbi]

Anyone care to hazard a guess at what's to come?

Taloiban will come back into power, erasing all gains over the past 9 years.
Thanks, Obama!

 

[The Rabbi]

Haha. The same people who were criticizing Obama for not getting us out of Afghanistan are now criticizing him for getting us out of Afghanistan.

Classic derangement from the usual suspects.

And the same people who credited Obama with getting out of Iraq until that looked like a bad decision are crediting him with getting out of Afghanistan. Until that looks like a bad decision. Those people incliude Obama, btw.

 

[Carib Gyal]

Anyone care to hazard a guess at what's to come?

Taloiban will come back into power, erasing all gains over the past 9 years.
Thanks, Obama!

If it's true that 11,000 - COMBAT READY - US troops will remain, that is something to consider. A reaction force may be all that is needed. But of course that remains to be seen.

Certainly US troops are the reason the Taliban have not already taken over the country.

 

[g5000]

In addition to the 11,000 US troops, there will be 2,500 international troops.

 

[Desperado]

It shows the folly of invading Iraq before Afghanistan was settled.

Care to expound?

There was no pressing reason to go into Iraq when we did. Should have waited to deal with Saddam until after Afghanistan was settled.

I agree that 9/11 was used as an excuse to invade Iraq, rather than to eliminate some immediate security threat. GW's well-intentioned, if unrealistic, goal was to create a new kind of Arab democracy that could serve as a model to break the unending conflicts in that region. A more practical (and less costly) goal would have been to depose Saddam and divide that "country"* into several administrative districts which could decide to unify or remain independent at some future date. In the meantime, we would have been able to establish a permanent military presence to counter Iranian threats to that region.

*Created out of thin air by British and French diplomats by drawing lines on a map in 1919 (Treaty of Versailles)

Well Intentioned? It was an outright lie!
Remember During the 2000 campaign, George W. Bush argued against nation building and foreign military entanglements. In the second presidential debate, he said: "I'm not so sure the role of the United States is to go around the world and say, 'This is the way it's got to be.'"
So what happened?

The 9/11 attacks happened in 2001, Brainiac.

So what does that have to do with Iraq and Nation Building?

 

[g5000]

The Taliban initially succeeded in taking over Afghanistan due to big financial and logistical support from Saudi Arabia and Pakistan.

The support from Saudi Arabia is probably gone.

Pakistan? Anyone's guess.

We are probably going to see a lot of suicide and car bombings to begin with. Whether or not there will be large organized mobilizations and conflict is also anyone's guess.

The key is going to be Pakistan and the Central Asian States. And Putin has influence in the CAS.

 

[The Rabbi]

Anyone care to hazard a guess at what's to come?

Taloiban will come back into power, erasing all gains over the past 9 years.
Thanks, Obama!

If it's true that 11,000 - COMBAT READY - US troops will remain, that is something to consider. A reaction force may be all that is needed. But of course that remains to be seen.

Certainly US troops are the reason the Taliban have not already taken over the country.

The Afghan government will negotiate a truce with the Taliban over US objections. Then kick us out Basically there is no way to avoid that as the Taliban represent much of the country,

 

[g5000]

A 'Pipe Dream', as in Pipeline. We'll be in Afghanistan for the foreseeable future. Do people really believe the Globalist Elites are finished plundering Afghanistan's resources?

The Great Game 2.0.

The players in this version are China, Russia, and the US. China has been increasing its influence in the Central Asian States.

 

[Carib Gyal]

Anyone care to hazard a guess at what's to come?

Taloiban will come back into power, erasing all gains over the past 9 years.
Thanks, Obama!

If it's true that 11,000 - COMBAT READY - US troops will remain, that is something to consider. A reaction force may be all that is needed. But of course that remains to be seen.

Certainly US troops are the reason the Taliban have not already taken over the country.

The Afghan government will negotiate a truce with the Taliban over US objections. Then kick us out Basically there is no way to avoid that as the Taliban represent much of the country,

This is also a possibility. Worst case scenario is a concerted terrorist attack, or series of attacks, that wipe out most of the US troops.

 

[The Rabbi]

Anyone care to hazard a guess at what's to come?

Taloiban will come back into power, erasing all gains over the past 9 years.
Thanks, Obama!

If it's true that 11,000 - COMBAT READY - US troops will remain, that is something to consider. A reaction force may be all that is needed. But of course that remains to be seen.

Certainly US troops are the reason the Taliban have not already taken over the country.

The Afghan government will negotiate a truce with the Taliban over US objections. Then kick us out Basically there is no way to avoid that as the Taliban represent much of the country,

This is also a possibility. Worst case scenario is a concerted terrorist attack, or series of attacks, that wipe out most of the US troops.

A series of attacks to drive out the US, ala Beirut during Reagan's term. That's a possibility too.

 

[jwoodie]

Care to expound?

There was no pressing reason to go into Iraq when we did. Should have waited to deal with Saddam until after Afghanistan was settled.

I agree that 9/11 was used as an excuse to invade Iraq, rather than to eliminate some immediate security threat. GW's well-intentioned, if unrealistic, goal was to create a new kind of Arab democracy that could serve as a model to break the unending conflicts in that region. A more practical (and less costly) goal would have been to depose Saddam and divide that "country"* into several administrative districts which could decide to unify or remain independent at some future date. In the meantime, we would have been able to establish a permanent military presence to counter Iranian threats to that region.

*Created out of thin air by British and French diplomats by drawing lines on a map in 1919 (Treaty of Versailles)

Well Intentioned? It was an outright lie!
Remember During the 2000 campaign, George W. Bush argued against nation building and foreign military entanglements. In the second presidential debate, he said: "I'm not so sure the role of the United States is to go around the world and say, 'This is the way it's got to be.'"
So what happened?

The 9/11 attacks happened in 2001, Brainiac.

So what does that have to do with Iraq and Nation Building?

Any statements made before 9/11/11 are irrelevant to this discussion.

 

[francoHFW]

If it is over, than we should be bringing all the troops and equipment home.
If we are not, than, it is not over, no matter what they say.

So WWII is still going?

 

[francoHFW]

Boosh's boy RW bigot Maliki ruined Iraq. Afghan now has schools and respect for women, university, a good chance, especially now that Bush's corrupt meltdown depression is ending. Ditto Pakistan and everywhere Jihad was a good career choice. Great job, Pubbies, as always.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Haha. The same people who were criticizing Obama for not getting us out of Afghanistan are now criticizing him for getting us out of Afghanistan.

Classic derangement from the usual suspects.

And the same people who credited Obama with getting out of Iraq until that looked like a bad decision are crediting him with getting out of Afghanistan. Until that looks like a bad decision. Those people incliude Obama, btw.

It wasn't a bad decision to get out of Iraq.