U.S. District Judge Amy Berman Jackson Orders White House to Turn Over Ukraine Emails Being Withheld from the Public

[OldLady]

This is interesting.

The trump administration is trying to violate the FOIA law. They're using very flimsy excuse for it too.

It will be interesting to see how this works out.

Roger Stone Judge Orders White House to Turn Over Ukraine Emails Being Withheld from the Public

When will she order obamallama to unseal the fast and furious papers? Get back to us ya hear?

She did. In 2016 and he complied.

Show me!

p. 2, post #25

 

[Coyote]

This is interesting.

The trump administration is trying to violate the FOIA law. They're using very flimsy excuse for it too.

It will be interesting to see how this works out.

Roger Stone Judge Orders White House to Turn Over Ukraine Emails Being Withheld from the Public

Amy Berman Jackson - appointed by Barack Obama

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_Berman_Jackson.

See my last post. And she ruled against Barack Obama.

I didn't comment one way or another.

Just making sure the info is clear to everyone.



.

Yeah, Bootney. No inference there by mentioning who appointed her.
lol

Only noting that she is an Obama appointee, who may have an agenda. There is nothing wrong with pointing out potential bias.

Should we have kept that a secret?

.

Appointees have an agenda? You think Barr does?

 

[Billiejeens]

This is interesting.

The trump administration is trying to violate the FOIA law. They're using very flimsy excuse for it too.

It will be interesting to see how this works out.

Roger Stone Judge Orders White House to Turn Over Ukraine Emails Being Withheld from the Public

Another fishing expedition in the works since there have been ZERO indications of laws being violated. The link states:

A federal judge in Washington, D.C. has ordered the White House to turn over 20 emails directly relating to President Donald Trump’s decision to withhold congressionally appropriated military aid from Ukraine. The administration has refused to produce the communications thus far, claiming the documents are protected from public release by executive privilege.

A decision he changed in a few weeks, fully complying with the Congressionally Appropriated Military Aid package (with additional military hardware) within the Fiscal year of its passage. You guys are running on nothing..... as usual.

He released the funds when he'd been caught red handed. I'm not overly impressed. What the committee wants is the evidence that Trump withheld it and why. If Trump was not withholding the money until he got Zelensky's cooperation, he's got nothing to worry about, does he?

Of course, it's entirely possible that Trump is crafty enough to keep any such admission out of an email. In his private business he forbade email communication (kind of unusual, don't you think?). But not all of those emails were from him. Did others know to hide what was going on? Hopefully we will find out.

Wasn't there already a failed impeachment attempt about this?
Yeah, there was, I remember now.
President Trump was totally vindicated and acquitted.

 

[the other mike]

I wasn't duped. It happened. He was acquitted by the Republicans who have been letting him get away with murder since he was elected. That does not mean it didn't happen.

He was acquitted by good attorneys who understand the laws and do their research. Schiff and Nadler were left speechless numerous times during the impeachment charades they imposed on us.

 

[OldLady]

This is interesting.

The trump administration is trying to violate the FOIA law. They're using very flimsy excuse for it too.

It will be interesting to see how this works out.

Roger Stone Judge Orders White House to Turn Over Ukraine Emails Being Withheld from the Public

Amy Berman Jackson - appointed by Barack Obama

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_Berman_Jackson.

See my last post. And she ruled against Barack Obama.

I didn't comment one way or another.

Just making sure the info is clear to everyone.



.

Yeah, Bootney. No inference there by mentioning who appointed her.
lol

Only noting that she is an Obama appointee, who may have an agenda. There is nothing wrong with pointing out potential bias.

Should we have kept that a secret?

.

If she has an agenda, why did she rule against Obama in 2016 and order him to turn over the Fast & Furious documents? Which he did, instead of running to the Supreme Court whining with his tail between his legs, like some Presidents we know.

 

[OldLady]

This is interesting.

The trump administration is trying to violate the FOIA law. They're using very flimsy excuse for it too.

It will be interesting to see how this works out.

Roger Stone Judge Orders White House to Turn Over Ukraine Emails Being Withheld from the Public

Another fishing expedition in the works since there have been ZERO indications of laws being violated. The link states:

A federal judge in Washington, D.C. has ordered the White House to turn over 20 emails directly relating to President Donald Trump’s decision to withhold congressionally appropriated military aid from Ukraine. The administration has refused to produce the communications thus far, claiming the documents are protected from public release by executive privilege.

A decision he changed in a few weeks, fully complying with the Congressionally Appropriated Military Aid package (with additional military hardware) within the Fiscal year of its passage. You guys are running on nothing..... as usual.

He released the funds when he'd been caught red handed. I'm not overly impressed. What the committee wants is the evidence that Trump withheld it and why. If Trump was not withholding the money until he got Zelensky's cooperation, he's got nothing to worry about, does he?

Of course, it's entirely possible that Trump is crafty enough to keep any such admission out of an email. In his private business he forbade email communication (kind of unusual, don't you think?). But not all of those emails were from him. Did others know to hide what was going on? Hopefully we will find out.

Wasn't there already a failed impeachment attempt about this?
Yeah, there was, I remember now.
President Trump was totally vindicated and acquitted.

Which we knew before it happened was going to be the case in the Republican held Senate. It was a totally partisan acquittal and means nothing to justice.

 

[Billiejeens]

This is interesting.

The trump administration is trying to violate the FOIA law. They're using very flimsy excuse for it too.

It will be interesting to see how this works out.

Roger Stone Judge Orders White House to Turn Over Ukraine Emails Being Withheld from the Public

Another fishing expedition in the works since there have been ZERO indications of laws being violated. The link states:

A federal judge in Washington, D.C. has ordered the White House to turn over 20 emails directly relating to President Donald Trump’s decision to withhold congressionally appropriated military aid from Ukraine. The administration has refused to produce the communications thus far, claiming the documents are protected from public release by executive privilege.

A decision he changed in a few weeks, fully complying with the Congressionally Appropriated Military Aid package (with additional military hardware) within the Fiscal year of its passage. You guys are running on nothing..... as usual.

He released the funds when he'd been caught red handed. I'm not overly impressed. What the committee wants is the evidence that Trump withheld it and why. If Trump was not withholding the money until he got Zelensky's cooperation, he's got nothing to worry about, does he?

Of course, it's entirely possible that Trump is crafty enough to keep any such admission out of an email. In his private business he forbade email communication (kind of unusual, don't you think?). But not all of those emails were from him. Did others know to hide what was going on? Hopefully we will find out.

Wasn't there already a failed impeachment attempt about this?
Yeah, there was, I remember now.
President Trump was totally vindicated and acquitted.

Which we knew before it happened was going to be the case in the Republican held Senate. It was a totally partisan acquittal and means nothing to justice.

You may not know what Partisan means.

 

[OldLady]

I wasn't duped. It happened. He was acquitted by the Republicans who have been letting him get away with murder since he was elected. That does not mean it didn't happen.

He was acquitted by good attorneys who understand the laws and do their research. Schiff and Nadler were left speechless numerous times during the impeachment charades they imposed on us.

Trump is guilty. He should have been removed. I don't care what the lawyers paid to defend him said. That's their job. I do care what the witnesses said, including two that Trump fired for testifying.

 

[WillowTree]

This is interesting.

The trump administration is trying to violate the FOIA law. They're using very flimsy excuse for it too.

It will be interesting to see how this works out.

Roger Stone Judge Orders White House to Turn Over Ukraine Emails Being Withheld from the Public

When will she order obamallama to unseal the fast and furious papers? Get back to us ya hear?

She did. In 2016 and he complied.

Show me!

p. 2, post #25

Thank You!

 

[OldLady]

This is interesting.

The trump administration is trying to violate the FOIA law. They're using very flimsy excuse for it too.

It will be interesting to see how this works out.

Roger Stone Judge Orders White House to Turn Over Ukraine Emails Being Withheld from the Public

Another fishing expedition in the works since there have been ZERO indications of laws being violated. The link states:

A federal judge in Washington, D.C. has ordered the White House to turn over 20 emails directly relating to President Donald Trump’s decision to withhold congressionally appropriated military aid from Ukraine. The administration has refused to produce the communications thus far, claiming the documents are protected from public release by executive privilege.

A decision he changed in a few weeks, fully complying with the Congressionally Appropriated Military Aid package (with additional military hardware) within the Fiscal year of its passage. You guys are running on nothing..... as usual.

He released the funds when he'd been caught red handed. I'm not overly impressed. What the committee wants is the evidence that Trump withheld it and why. If Trump was not withholding the money until he got Zelensky's cooperation, he's got nothing to worry about, does he?

Of course, it's entirely possible that Trump is crafty enough to keep any such admission out of an email. In his private business he forbade email communication (kind of unusual, don't you think?). But not all of those emails were from him. Did others know to hide what was going on? Hopefully we will find out.

Wasn't there already a failed impeachment attempt about this?
Yeah, there was, I remember now.
President Trump was totally vindicated and acquitted.

Which we knew before it happened was going to be the case in the Republican held Senate. It was a totally partisan acquittal and means nothing to justice.

You may not know what Partisan means.

Of course I do. And everyone knew it was going to be the case. Fox admitted it, every single conservative admitted it--they knew that no matter what Trump did, they had no intention of convicting him.

 

[OldLady]

This is interesting.

The trump administration is trying to violate the FOIA law. They're using very flimsy excuse for it too.

It will be interesting to see how this works out.

Roger Stone Judge Orders White House to Turn Over Ukraine Emails Being Withheld from the Public

When will she order obamallama to unseal the fast and furious papers? Get back to us ya hear?

She did. In 2016 and he complied.

Show me!

p. 2, post #25

Thank You!

yw

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Appointees have an agenda? You think Barr does?

Yes.

.

 

[WillowTree]

This is interesting.

The trump administration is trying to violate the FOIA law. They're using very flimsy excuse for it too.

It will be interesting to see how this works out.

Roger Stone Judge Orders White House to Turn Over Ukraine Emails Being Withheld from the Public

Another fishing expedition in the works since there have been ZERO indications of laws being violated. The link states:

A federal judge in Washington, D.C. has ordered the White House to turn over 20 emails directly relating to President Donald Trump’s decision to withhold congressionally appropriated military aid from Ukraine. The administration has refused to produce the communications thus far, claiming the documents are protected from public release by executive privilege.

A decision he changed in a few weeks, fully complying with the Congressionally Appropriated Military Aid package (with additional military hardware) within the Fiscal year of its passage. You guys are running on nothing..... as usual.

He released the funds when he'd been caught red handed. I'm not overly impressed. What the committee wants is the evidence that Trump withheld it and why. If Trump was not withholding the money until he got Zelensky's cooperation, he's got nothing to worry about, does he?

Of course, it's entirely possible that Trump is crafty enough to keep any such admission out of an email. In his private business he forbade email communication (kind of unusual, don't you think?). But not all of those emails were from him. Did others know to hide what was going on? Hopefully we will find out.

Wasn't there already a failed impeachment attempt about this?
Yeah, there was, I remember now.
President Trump was totally vindicated and acquitted.

Which we knew before it happened was going to be the case in the Republican held Senate. It was a totally partisan acquittal and means nothing to justice.

It was a partisan conviction too.

 

[Shrimpbox]

That ship has sailed.

IRS Scandal: On September 8, 2017, the Trump Justice Department declined to reopen the criminal investigation into Lois Lerner, a central figure in the controversy.

Fast & Furious:
Obama relents in fight over Fast and Furious documents

By JOSH GERSTEIN

04/08/2016 04:59 PM EDT

Updated 04/08/2016 05:24 PM EDT

Four years after asserting executive privilege to block Congress from obtaining documents relating to a controversial federal gun trafficking investigation, President Barack Obama relented Friday, turning over to lawmakers thousands of pages of records that led to unusual House votes holding Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt in 2012.

In January, a federal district court judge rejected Obama's executive privilege claim over records detailing the Justice Department and White House's response to Operation Fast and Furious, a Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives investigation that may have allowed as many as 2,000 firearms to pass into the hands of Mexican drug cartels.

There was plenty of evidence at the time that Fast and Furious was an illegal operation, thus they did have legal reason for those documents.

With Trump temporarily holding Concessional aid (not illegal) , with no illegal activity behind it, he released them soon, within the fiscal year of the aid (no illegal activity behind it) there are no legal reasons to demand 20 e-mails.

You should stop here now, you are getting sillier and sillier....

What is silly---no, criminal--is IGNORING the fact that this withholding of aid coincided with Trump asking for a "favor" and then repeatedly asking the Ambassador if Zelensky had scheduled a TV announcement that he was investigating Biden. Trump released the funds ONLY AFTER HE WAS CAUGHT. And he did it quick, too, because he knew it was wrong.

It was clearly unethical and a huge abuse of his power as President. If there is a single oversight case where the Congress has the shoe on the right foot, it is this one. I'm not sure where they get off "oversighting" their own impeachment proceeding, but hey--politics in D.C. are complex. Are they out to get Trump for this one? Yeah, and they should be.

Every president that ever lived(and Vice President as you patently choose to ignore) has used the leverage of money and aid to extract concessions from those receiving the aid. Trump is the Only chief executive under the microscope for this. And now that Biden and the whole Obama administration has been revealed to be corrupt and treasonous there is even more reason for the investigations into his activities and his sons in Ukraine.

Not for personal political gain.

So you assume there was no legitimate reason to investigate Joe? Your hypocritical logic is off the chain. Joe Biden is on tape coyote, on tape saying you don’t get the money from the us unless you drop the case. He is squashing an investigation for personal gain. What about this can you not get through your head. So if alleged strongarm tactics from trump are bad, then a videotape showing Biden demanding a quid pro quo in real time is even worse. The reason you are a failure as a debater is that you have no consistent principles other than you hate trump. You are not consistent, you are not logical, you believe in a two tier justice system, and like old lady you just ignore the facts, especially the ones coming out now. Until you can wrap your head around the damage that has been done to the country for the last four years by lying democrats(and I don’t say that as a partisan, I say that because it is a fact, a fact you will not admit.) it is futile to engage with you. You are not an honest broker at least in politics. I suspect outside of politics you are a perfectly nice person.

 

[toobfreak]

It will be tied up in the courts a long long time. No worries.

So, you're pretty much admitting the evidence is very damning for Trump, which is why you're very glad it will be hidden for a while longer.

So, you're pretty much admitting the evidence is very damning for Hillary which is why we're still waiting for files to be turned over for Benghazi?

 

[Billiejeens]

This is interesting.

The trump administration is trying to violate the FOIA law. They're using very flimsy excuse for it too.

It will be interesting to see how this works out.

Roger Stone Judge Orders White House to Turn Over Ukraine Emails Being Withheld from the Public

Another fishing expedition in the works since there have been ZERO indications of laws being violated. The link states:

A federal judge in Washington, D.C. has ordered the White House to turn over 20 emails directly relating to President Donald Trump’s decision to withhold congressionally appropriated military aid from Ukraine. The administration has refused to produce the communications thus far, claiming the documents are protected from public release by executive privilege.

A decision he changed in a few weeks, fully complying with the Congressionally Appropriated Military Aid package (with additional military hardware) within the Fiscal year of its passage. You guys are running on nothing..... as usual.

He released the funds when he'd been caught red handed. I'm not overly impressed. What the committee wants is the evidence that Trump withheld it and why. If Trump was not withholding the money until he got Zelensky's cooperation, he's got nothing to worry about, does he?

Of course, it's entirely possible that Trump is crafty enough to keep any such admission out of an email. In his private business he forbade email communication (kind of unusual, don't you think?). But not all of those emails were from him. Did others know to hide what was going on? Hopefully we will find out.

Wasn't there already a failed impeachment attempt about this?
Yeah, there was, I remember now.
President Trump was totally vindicated and acquitted.

Which we knew before it happened was going to be the case in the Republican held Senate. It was a totally partisan acquittal and means nothing to justice.

You may not know what Partisan means.

Of course I do. And everyone knew it was going to be the case. Fox admitted it, every single conservative admitted it--they knew that no matter what Trump did, they had no intention of convicting him.

And, no matter the fact that the House had, and produced no evidence, the Democrats were going to bring charges.
You worry about the members in your shithole party before you worry about others.

 

[Billiejeens]

Appointees have an agenda? You think Barr does?

Yes.

.

He seems to be fixated on defending the rule of law as described in The US Constitution.

 

[OldLady]

This is interesting.

The trump administration is trying to violate the FOIA law. They're using very flimsy excuse for it too.

It will be interesting to see how this works out.

Roger Stone Judge Orders White House to Turn Over Ukraine Emails Being Withheld from the Public

Another fishing expedition in the works since there have been ZERO indications of laws being violated. The link states:

A federal judge in Washington, D.C. has ordered the White House to turn over 20 emails directly relating to President Donald Trump’s decision to withhold congressionally appropriated military aid from Ukraine. The administration has refused to produce the communications thus far, claiming the documents are protected from public release by executive privilege.

A decision he changed in a few weeks, fully complying with the Congressionally Appropriated Military Aid package (with additional military hardware) within the Fiscal year of its passage. You guys are running on nothing..... as usual.

He released the funds when he'd been caught red handed. I'm not overly impressed. What the committee wants is the evidence that Trump withheld it and why. If Trump was not withholding the money until he got Zelensky's cooperation, he's got nothing to worry about, does he?

Of course, it's entirely possible that Trump is crafty enough to keep any such admission out of an email. In his private business he forbade email communication (kind of unusual, don't you think?). But not all of those emails were from him. Did others know to hide what was going on? Hopefully we will find out.

Wasn't there already a failed impeachment attempt about this?
Yeah, there was, I remember now.
President Trump was totally vindicated and acquitted.

Which we knew before it happened was going to be the case in the Republican held Senate. It was a totally partisan acquittal and means nothing to justice.

It was a partisan conviction too.

You're right. Every blessed Republican in the House opposed the Articles of Impeachment. It was the first time a President was impeached with no votes by his own party. The Republicans are consistent, if not ethical.

 

[OldLady]

This is interesting.

The trump administration is trying to violate the FOIA law. They're using very flimsy excuse for it too.

It will be interesting to see how this works out.

Roger Stone Judge Orders White House to Turn Over Ukraine Emails Being Withheld from the Public

Another fishing expedition in the works since there have been ZERO indications of laws being violated. The link states:

A federal judge in Washington, D.C. has ordered the White House to turn over 20 emails directly relating to President Donald Trump’s decision to withhold congressionally appropriated military aid from Ukraine. The administration has refused to produce the communications thus far, claiming the documents are protected from public release by executive privilege.

A decision he changed in a few weeks, fully complying with the Congressionally Appropriated Military Aid package (with additional military hardware) within the Fiscal year of its passage. You guys are running on nothing..... as usual.

He released the funds when he'd been caught red handed. I'm not overly impressed. What the committee wants is the evidence that Trump withheld it and why. If Trump was not withholding the money until he got Zelensky's cooperation, he's got nothing to worry about, does he?

Of course, it's entirely possible that Trump is crafty enough to keep any such admission out of an email. In his private business he forbade email communication (kind of unusual, don't you think?). But not all of those emails were from him. Did others know to hide what was going on? Hopefully we will find out.

Wasn't there already a failed impeachment attempt about this?
Yeah, there was, I remember now.
President Trump was totally vindicated and acquitted.

Which we knew before it happened was going to be the case in the Republican held Senate. It was a totally partisan acquittal and means nothing to justice.

You may not know what Partisan means.

Of course I do. And everyone knew it was going to be the case. Fox admitted it, every single conservative admitted it--they knew that no matter what Trump did, they had no intention of convicting him.

And, no matter the fact that the House had, and produced no evidence, the Democrats were going to bring charges.
You worry about the members in your shithole party before you worry about others.

I watched the hearing. All of it. They had plenty of evidence. Closing your eyes to it does not make it go away. You should be defending America, not a miserable political agenda. America stands by the strength of her leaders. A leader that abuses his authority the way Trump has is not only an embarrassment, it leaves the obvious question: What ELSE is he up to? He has the morals of a sewer rat and only another sewer rat can't see that.

 

[Billiejeens]

This is interesting.

The trump administration is trying to violate the FOIA law. They're using very flimsy excuse for it too.

It will be interesting to see how this works out.

Roger Stone Judge Orders White House to Turn Over Ukraine Emails Being Withheld from the Public

Another fishing expedition in the works since there have been ZERO indications of laws being violated. The link states:

A federal judge in Washington, D.C. has ordered the White House to turn over 20 emails directly relating to President Donald Trump’s decision to withhold congressionally appropriated military aid from Ukraine. The administration has refused to produce the communications thus far, claiming the documents are protected from public release by executive privilege.

A decision he changed in a few weeks, fully complying with the Congressionally Appropriated Military Aid package (with additional military hardware) within the Fiscal year of its passage. You guys are running on nothing..... as usual.

He released the funds when he'd been caught red handed. I'm not overly impressed. What the committee wants is the evidence that Trump withheld it and why. If Trump was not withholding the money until he got Zelensky's cooperation, he's got nothing to worry about, does he?

Of course, it's entirely possible that Trump is crafty enough to keep any such admission out of an email. In his private business he forbade email communication (kind of unusual, don't you think?). But not all of those emails were from him. Did others know to hide what was going on? Hopefully we will find out.

Wasn't there already a failed impeachment attempt about this?
Yeah, there was, I remember now.
President Trump was totally vindicated and acquitted.

Which we knew before it happened was going to be the case in the Republican held Senate. It was a totally partisan acquittal and means nothing to justice.

You may not know what Partisan means.

Of course I do. And everyone knew it was going to be the case. Fox admitted it, every single conservative admitted it--they knew that no matter what Trump did, they had no intention of convicting him.

And, no matter the fact that the House had, and produced no evidence, the Democrats were going to bring charges.
You worry about the members in your shithole party before you worry about others.

I watched the hearing. All of it. They had plenty of evidence. Closing your eyes to it does not make it go away. You should be defending America, not a miserable political agenda. America stands by the strength of her leaders. A leader that abuses his authority the way Trump has is not only an embarrassment, it leaves the obvious question: What ELSE is he up to? He has the morals of a sewer rat and only another sewer rat can't see that.

Absolutely delusional.