Two Frauds Do Not Make A Right

[Flanders]

Naturally, Bill O’Reilly called for a universal ID card:

The O'Reilly Factor | Bill O'Reilly | Fox News

Being a Roman Catholic, and a former teacher, O’Reilly comes by his love of institutional control honestly. So it comes as no surprise that a reliable government stooge is in favor of a universal ID card.

I’ll begin at the beginning.

Democrats don’t know how to solve a domestic problem without taking a Right away from private sector Americans. So when the Communists have nothing solid to go on they invoke a philosophical threat to constitutional Rights in order to get what they want. Combating voter fraud is the latest Democrat party fraud. Putting your photograph on your SS card is a new twist. Universal ID cards is not new.

Before the second World Trade Tower hit the ground, Rep. Gephardt (D. Missouri) was calling for ID cards for all Americans because ID cards were somehow supposed to be the best way to protect Americans. Universal ID cards was even better than shutting down immigration until the problem of terrorism was solved. At the time not one leading Democrats voiced philosophical concerns for the constitutional Rights of Americans when Gephardt first began proposing Universal ID cards. Universal ID cards will no more stop voter fraud than Gephardt’s would have stopped terrorism.

Two frauds do not make a Right.

I hate to say this, but Americans will probably have universal ID cards forced on them. The Ministry of Propaganda has long favored them. The public relations campaign pushing for Universal ID cards is off and running again. The phoney surveys that show Americans want ID cards, the terrific benefits more government control offers by getting voter fraud under control, and all the rest of the sales pitch is already showing up in our magnificent media as O’Reilly confirms.

NOTE: Universal ID cards has always been a mainstay of the international press. If the rest of the world accepts them how can Americans possibly refuse?

Now, let’s look at why Bill Clinton and his fellow Democrats want to put photographs on Social Security cards. Not one reason has anything to do with stopping voter fraud. Nobody in their right mind can believe that Democrats really want to stop voter fraud. If they did they would not oppose voter ID laws so vigorously. Every reason is about the Socialist dream of universal ID cards.

1. Democrats do everything incrementally. (O’Reilly would have to be an idiot not to know that.)

2. A SS card was never meant to be an identity card; so a law, or an executive order, that requires Americans to CARRY their ID comes after everybody has one just as confiscation comes after gun registration.

NOTE: How many times have you seen characters in movies and TV shows asked for their drivers’ license. Fictional characters always seem to have it with them. In real life what happens when you have a drivers’ license but not on you when you get stopped? Let me know if you know the answer.

3. A universal ID card is essential in getting permission to travel. “Show me your papers.” makes no sense when there are no “papers” to show. (Voter ID laws only require showing the ID on election day.)

4. Democrats know that mail-in voting, and online voting, can be adapted to fit their frauds.

5. Democrats know that universal ID cards will not stop voter fraud or illegal immigration. States and cities are giving drivers’ licenses to illegal aliens. That, in itself, is an incentive for voter fraud. Using a drivers’ license as a foundation document is a prelude to giving illegal aliens Social Security cards.

6. Social Security cards with photographs can be counterfeited.

Once again Democrats created a domestic problem by funding groups engaging in voter fraud. Now Democrats pretend they are solving the problem by pushing Americans into carrying a universal ID card.

Finally, it is ludicrous for Democrats to claim minorities are being denied the Right to vote because of voter ID laws when so many illegal aliens and dead people manage to cast ballots. Hell, the cemetery vote has been a loyal Democrat party constituency long before millions of illegal aliens came along.

 

[emilynghiem]

If you want to talk honestly,
then honestly how much of this nonsense would resolve itself and go away
if all political parties were responsible for collecting taxes from members
to pay for THEIR OWN PROGRAMS they manage and fund themselves.

If there were any ID, political or tax fraud, it would be contained WITHIN THAT PARTY.

So instead of multiple parties fighting over national regulations and programs,
we'd have parties competing to be more efficient and accountable to cover their
own costs and memberships.

Why not????

If we are in the business of regulating insurance and health care,
why not agree how to regulate PARTIES and make them address their own problems they cause themselves with their own policies and accountability or lack thereof for party leaders, members and candidates.

Naturally, Bill O’Reilly called for a universal ID card:

The O'Reilly Factor | Bill O'Reilly | Fox News

Being a Roman Catholic, and a former teacher, O’Reilly comes by his love of institutional control honestly. So it comes as no surprise that a reliable government stooge is in favor of a universal ID card.

I’ll begin at the beginning.

Democrats don’t know how to solve a domestic problem without taking a Right away from private sector Americans. So when the Communists have nothing solid to go on they invoke a philosophical threat to constitutional Rights in order to get what they want. Combating voter fraud is the latest Democrat party fraud. Putting your photograph on your SS card is a new twist. Universal ID cards is not new.

Before the second World Trade Tower hit the ground, Rep. Gephardt (D. Missouri) was calling for ID cards for all Americans because ID cards were somehow supposed to be the best way to protect Americans. Universal ID cards was even better than shutting down immigration until the problem of terrorism was solved. At the time not one leading Democrats voiced philosophical concerns for the constitutional Rights of Americans when Gephardt first began proposing Universal ID cards. Universal ID cards will no more stop voter fraud than Gephardt’s would have stopped terrorism.

Two frauds do not make a Right.

I hate to say this, but Americans will probably have universal ID cards forced on them. The Ministry of Propaganda has long favored them. The public relations campaign pushing for Universal ID cards is off and running again. The phoney surveys that show Americans want ID cards, the terrific benefits more government control offers by getting voter fraud under control, and all the rest of the sales pitch is already showing up in our magnificent media as O’Reilly confirms.

NOTE: Universal ID cards has always been a mainstay of the international press. If the rest of the world accepts them how can Americans possibly refuse?

Now, let’s look at why Bill Clinton and his fellow Democrats want to put photographs on Social Security cards. Not one reason has anything to do with stopping voter fraud. Nobody in their right mind can believe that Democrats really want to stop voter fraud. If they did they would not oppose voter ID laws so vigorously. Every reason is about the Socialist dream of universal ID cards.

1. Democrats do everything incrementally. (O’Reilly would have to be an idiot not to know that.)

2. A SS card was never meant to be an identity card; so a law, or an executive order, that requires Americans to CARRY their ID comes after everybody has one just as confiscation comes after gun registration.

NOTE: How many times have you seen characters in movies and TV shows asked for their drivers’ license. Fictional characters always seem to have it with them. In real life what happens when you have a drivers’ license but not on you when you get stopped? Let me know if you know the answer.

3. A universal ID card is essential in getting permission to travel. “Show me your papers.” makes no sense when there are no “papers” to show. (Voter ID laws only require showing the ID on election day.)

4. Democrats know that mail-in voting, and online voting, can be adapted to fit their frauds.

5. Democrats know that universal ID cards will not stop voter fraud or illegal immigration. States and cities are giving drivers’ licenses to illegal aliens. That, in itself, is an incentive for voter fraud. Using a drivers’ license as a foundation document is a prelude to giving illegal aliens Social Security cards.

6. Social Security cards with photographs can be counterfeited.

Once again Democrats created a domestic problem by funding groups engaging in voter fraud. Now Democrats pretend they are solving the problem by pushing Americans into carrying a universal ID card.

Finally, it is ludicrous for Democrats to claim minorities are being denied the Right to vote because of voter ID laws when so many illegal aliens and dead people manage to cast ballots. Hell, the cemetery vote has been a loyal Democrat party constituency long before millions of illegal aliens came along.

 

[Flanders]

If you want to talk honestly,
then honestly how much of this nonsense would resolve itself and go away
if all political parties were responsible for collecting taxes from members
to pay for THEIR OWN PROGRAMS they manage and fund themselves.

If there were any ID, political or tax fraud, it would be contained WITHIN THAT PARTY.

So instead of multiple parties fighting over national regulations and programs,
we'd have parties competing to be more efficient and accountable to cover their
own costs and memberships.

Why not????

If we are in the business of regulating insurance and health care,
why not agree how to regulate PARTIES and make them address their own problems they cause themselves with their own policies and accountability or lack thereof for party leaders, members and candidates.

To emilynghiem: You can accomplish your goal by repealing the XVI Amendment. Do that, and Socialists would have to fund their own programs. In fact, the government should not be involved in coerced charity of any kind.

 

[Flanders]

Before the second World Trade Tower hit the ground, Rep. Gephardt (D. Missouri) was calling for ID cards for all Americans because ID cards were somehow supposed to be the best way to protect Americans.

I forgot that after Gephardt came the Gang of Eight who were going to stop illegal immigration with universal ID cards. Ron Paul thought otherwise. Note that Mr. Paul points out that SS cards were not identification cards:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=u5ioDrdaspM]National I.D - RFID Chipping - Checkpoints across America - YouTube[/ame]​

Now, listen to Senator Schumer and Taqiyya the Liar in clips within the Youtube. They were spreading B.S. before O’Reilly touted turning Social Security cards into ID cards:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QMAn5nrqlw&feature=player_detailpage]National ID Card Lurks In Immigration Bill - YouTube[/ame]​

In fact, Democrats have no intention of closing the border.

There is no such thing as a forgery-proof document. A universal ID card would be child’s play to a garden-variety counterfeiter not to mention governments with vast forgery-technology at their disposal.