Two big Premier League clubs up for sale - US owners cashing out ?

[Tommy Tainant]

Manchester Utd and Liverpool are both on the market and both being sold off by their American owners.

Are they getting out at the top of the market ?

Or are the Americans no longer able to compete with the Arab money now flooding into the game ?

The Glazers are rightly despised in Manchester but the FSG were generally popular on Merseyside. Both have sporting interests in the US.

The top club in the UK is Manchester City and their oil money owners have bottomless pockets. Newcastle United have just been bought by the saudi govt as well. Neither club can stand much scrutiny.

American owners buy clubs to extract money not pump it into the club. they wont go into spending wars with rich arabs.

An exception to this might be the character who bought Chelsea. Ted Boehly is throwing money around like a lottery winner to absolutely no effect.

I would not be sorry to see the bottom fall out of the football market.
The game is bloated and corrupt beyond measure. It needs bringng back to earth.

 

[Dekster]

Soccer is a bigger threat than radical Islam. We should ban the former. Your country needs to do something about the latter.

All that said, who the hell knows. Billionaires could just be tired of their toys and want something new.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Soccer is a bigger threat than radical Islam. We should ban the former. Your country needs to do something about the latter.

All that said, who the hell knows. Billionaires could just be tired of their toys and want something new.

I think in the case of Manchester United the personal attacks might have played a part. The club is a cash machine but the owners need heavy security to attend the games and generally fly in and out.

That must have an effect.

 

[Dekster]

I think in the case of Manchester United the personal attacks might have played a part. The club is a cash machine but the owners need heavy security to attend the games and generally fly in and out.

That must have an effect.

Or the Glazers just want to cash out in a bidding war between Jim Ratcliffe and the Arabs. There are reports that some of the Glazers want out and one or two want to keep the club.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Or the Glazers just want to cash out in a bidding war between Jim Ratcliffe and the Arabs. There are reports that some of the Glazers want out and one or two want to keep the club.

Out of the frying pan indeed. Neither party is very attractive.

 

[Dekster]

Out of the frying pan indeed. Neither party is very attractive.

But if you want to maximize your return, what difference does it make who ends up with it really. It isn't that they aren't profitable, it is that they are not producing the windfall to provide all the many Glazers the lifestyle they each feel they deserve. The club is just an investment for them. For the Arabs it may be a status statement. For, Ratcliffe it may be nostalgia. Who knows, but cash will always be king in the end.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

But if you want to maximize your return, what difference does it make who ends up with it really. It isn't that they aren't profitable, it is that they are not producing the windfall to provide all the many Glazers the lifestyle they each feel they deserve. The club is just an investment for them. For the Arabs it may be a status statement. For, Ratcliffe it may be nostalgia. Who knows, but cash will always be king in the end.

I am looking at it from a fan perspective. Fans are the game and their loyalty is being exploited by these arseholes. They add nothing to the game.

 

[Dekster]

I am looking at it from a fan perspective. Fans are the game and their loyalty is being exploited by these arseholes. They add nothing to the game.

Of course they are being exploited. Loyalty is money in the bank. That is the bread and butter of professional sports franchises. It is how you sell tickets and merch even if your team is perpetually locked into last place. You can thank or blame David Beckham for the current situation, but he sort of next-leveled soccer from being a sport to being huge international business. The fans only chance of taking it back would have been to support the European Super League just long enough to destroy those teams and then start over their clubs from the ashes.

 

[luiza]

I would not be sorry to see the bottom fall out of the football market.
The game is bloated and corrupt beyond measure. It needs bringng back to earth.

What a wretched person you are .
The football market is just one of many expressions of companies of a specific sort. Why would you want to disparage them all ?

You are just selfish and insanely jealous because Welsh people have little idea how to play the game and the only two fifth rate professional teams you have are dismally average and hugely unsuccessful .

Your claim that football teams are more corrupt than other market place organisations is just another of your stupid generalisations unsupported by even a hint of evidence .
Back to your day time job of refuse collector in Wrexham and I suggest that you keep your nose out of matters of which you are clueless .As usual .

 

[odanny]

Wait, didn't one of them lose to the other 7-0? And it was like their worst loss in 100 years?

 

[Orangecat]

Or are the Americans no longer able to compete with the Arab money now flooding into the game ?

Why aren't some of you inbred islanders buying up your own teams? Can't compete with foreign money?

 

[luiza]

Why aren't some of you inbred islanders buying up your own teams? Can't compete with foreign money?

We are born inherently smarter than you , so it should be obvious that we let suckers pick up the tabs for vanity exercises .

And Americans are universally known for their Gullibility . And they always live up to expectation .

QED

 

[frigidweirdo]

Manchester Utd and Liverpool are both on the market and both being sold off by their American owners.

Are they getting out at the top of the market ?

Or are the Americans no longer able to compete with the Arab money now flooding into the game ?

The Glazers are rightly despised in Manchester but the FSG were generally popular on Merseyside. Both have sporting interests in the US.

The top club in the UK is Manchester City and their oil money owners have bottomless pockets. Newcastle United have just been bought by the saudi govt as well. Neither club can stand much scrutiny.

American owners buy clubs to extract money not pump it into the club. they wont go into spending wars with rich arabs.

An exception to this might be the character who bought Chelsea. Ted Boehly is throwing money around like a lottery winner to absolutely no effect.

I would not be sorry to see the bottom fall out of the football market.
The game is bloated and corrupt beyond measure. It needs bringng back to earth.

The point seems to be, get in, then get out with more money than before.
They'll certainly do that, so they'll be happy. The oil rich will take over, then they'll lose all their money and then the Premier League will be screwed.

 

[luiza]

Wait, didn't one of them lose to the other 7-0? And it was like their worst loss in 100 years?

Far too involved to bore you with the inter club fan hatred history or the detail ways that this season has unfolded for both teams , but for very different reasons .

Suffice to say that this result had everybody beyond amazed .

 

[luiza]

The point seems to be, get in, then get out with more money than before.
They'll certainly do that, so they'll be happy. The oil rich will take over, then they'll lose all their money and then the Premier League will be screwed.

As ever the only big group being screwed are the north americans .
And lacking any world appreciated sports they are probably now so mentally inbred that they will never be able to appreciate the great benefits of joining in with other people through and from world team sports . Social outcasts yet again .

Our days of glory were cemented by Football and Cricket. For body and brain- which puts north americans immediately at a huge disadvantage .

Your feeble attempts to move in higher circles include ice hockey ( arabs love that) , basket jumping for freaks , a cheap, thuggish parody of association football and a version of a game that schoolgirls are taught here -- rounders , the formula for Baseball .
Unsurprisingly, few other peoples are interested -- no snow , not obsessed by height freaks and fully aware that American football tactics lead to America's consistent inability to win real life battles .
So , finally , and as there will always be Gullible Fools ( americans ) , they can always be guaranteed to pay for our leisure activities played out on the world stage. Very sad . For them.

 

[odanny]

Far too involved to bore you with the inter club fan hatred history or the detail ways that this season has unfolded for both teams , but for very different reasons .

Suffice to say that this result had everybody beyond amazed .

No, feel free to bore me. Man U. is a premier club (not sure about Liverpool) and they got smoked by 7 goals. I guess that club has games like that only once a century.

 

[Orangecat]

We are born inherently smarter than you ,

So what happened?

 

[Orangecat]

Our days of glory were cemented by Football and Cricket. For body and brain- which puts north americans immediately at a huge disadvantage

Too bad your days of glory didn't include dentistry.

America's consistent inability to win real life battles .

That's rich, considering educated adults know you'd be speaking German if we hadn't saved your limey asses in WWII.

 

[candycorn]

Manchester Utd and Liverpool are both on the market and both being sold off by their American owners.

Are they getting out at the top of the market ?

Or are the Americans no longer able to compete with the Arab money now flooding into the game ?

The Glazers are rightly despised in Manchester but the FSG were generally popular on Merseyside. Both have sporting interests in the US.

The top club in the UK is Manchester City and their oil money owners have bottomless pockets. Newcastle United have just been bought by the saudi govt as well. Neither club can stand much scrutiny.

American owners buy clubs to extract money not pump it into the club. they wont go into spending wars with rich arabs.

An exception to this might be the character who bought Chelsea. Ted Boehly is throwing money around like a lottery winner to absolutely no effect.

I would not be sorry to see the bottom fall out of the football market.
The game is bloated and corrupt beyond measure. It needs bringng back to earth.

The economics of the EPL vs the NFL and MLB are pretty strange. The transfer fee on top of the salaries for getting free agents should be cost-prohibitive.

Is there a salary cap in the EPL that is seriously enforced?

 

[candycorn]

Wait, didn't one of them lose to the other 7-0? And it was like their worst loss in 100 years?

Yeah, that was ugly. Keep in mind earlier this year the same MAN-U team lost 6-0 to Man City.