TWA 800 Lawsuit

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Lawsuit against Raytheon has been unfolding for years. Reports from pilots and others originally claimed of ordnance going from ground to altitude. All were said to have been wrong. I was sure it was a coverup over a missile test, and now it may be what happened.

Ronald Krick is the father of Oliver Krick, a 25-year-old student flight engineer killed in the crash. Krick has been joined in the suit by relatives of other deceased passengers and crew. The defendants are the Raytheon Company, the Lockheed Martin Corporation, and the United States government.

The Krick suit gained momentum when it absorbed information gleaned from a FOIA suit brought by Tom Stalcup, a no-nonsense physicist who has been pursuing this case since he was a grad student in 1996. To establish his claims Stalcup was granted subpoena power and was able to depose several key witnesses from within the investigation.
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—After the incident, the federal government released a false report contending that the explosion was the result of an electrical fire in the airplane’s center fuel tank.

—Only recently, thanks to the work of physicist, Dr. Thomas Stalcup, through his Freedom of Information Act (“FOIA”) litigation in Massachusetts federal court, has evidence emerged proving that TWA 800’s explosion was not caused by any defect in the airplane, but instead by an errant United States missile fired at aerial target drones flying nearby.

—The evidence unearthed by Dr. Stalcup establishes that the United States, including its agencies, such as the United States Missile Defense Agency (formerly known as the Ballistic Missile Defense Organization), the United States Department of Defense, and the United States Navy (the “Government Defendants”), acting in concert and working side-by-side with Raytheon Company and Lockheed Martin Corporation (the “Contractor Defendants”) and DOES 1 through 20, inclusive (collectively the “Defendants”) were testing the Aegis Weapons System and firing SM-2 missiles with live warheads from warship(s) at aerial missile targets off the coast of New York in close proximity to commercial airline flight paths. One such missile struck TWA flight 800, causing it to break apart and crash into the Atlantic Ocean, killing everyone aboard.

—Newly discovered evidence also shows that these Defendants engaged in a top-down cover-up to prevent the public from learning the truth about TWA 800. Proof of this cover-up, and of Defendants’ underlying culpability for the crash, was only recently unearthed by Dr. Stalcup after more than a decade of FOIA litigation against the Government Defendants.


 
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I never bought into that. Cover up from the get go.
I'm with you. I remember it. Didn't they have footage of a missile's contrail?

But until a motive can be found, a sound one....... One shouldn't go around accusing people of Mass Murder with flimsy accusations.

I can say, "I don't understand it"

But that covers a lot of territory. For me it does, anyway
 
I'm with you. I remember it. Didn't they have footage of a missile's contrail?
Pretty sure, plus the radar showed it, then it was confiscated. There were something like 130 or so eye witnesses which were never interviewed according to a documentary I saw.
 
But until a motive can be found, a sound one....... One shouldn't go around accusing people of Mass Murder with flimsy accusations.
I don't see anyone doing that, only trying to prove it was a cover up. I remember studying the reassembled portions of the 747, and, to me, there were clearly impact and exit holes in the fuselage. Another was someone got a sample of a residue on the seats consistent with rocket propellant gases. That was quickly poo pooed. Too many inconsistencies.

—The evidence obtained through Dr. Stalcup’s FOIA litigation also suggests that the FBI interfered with the National Transportation Safety Board (“NTSB”) investigation. Following the TWA 800 collision, the FBI led the investigation of the incident and enlisted the assistance of the CIA, rather than allowing NTSB— the agency tasked with investigating all domestic aviation incidents— to lead investigative efforts. Throughout the course of its investigation, the FBI removed all copies of Navy radar tapes and refused to allow the NTSB to conduct eyewitness interviews or review the FBI’s results regarding the cause of the TWA 800 crash. These copies of the Navy radar tapes were finally released and show an object “heading straight for TWA 800.” This information appears to corroborate previously discredited testimony from eyewitnesses, many of whom maintained that they saw something “arcing” toward TWA 800 before the plane exploded, but were not permitted to testify at any NTSB hearings. Some eyewitnesses reported being threatened by the FBI to “keep quiet.”
My one quibble with the above is the word “enlisted.” The CIA joined the investigation on day one, and the evidence suggests its participation was forced on the FBI just as the FBI was forced on the NTSB. The orchestration could only have come from the White House.


Runs in my mind someone was up for reelection.
 
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Lawsuit against Raytheon has been unfolding for years. Reports from pilots and others originally claimed of ordnance going from ground to altitude. All were said to have been wrong. I was sure it was a coverup over a missile test, and now it may be what happened.

Ronald Krick is the father of Oliver Krick, a 25-year-old student flight engineer killed in the crash. Krick has been joined in the suit by relatives of other deceased passengers and crew. The defendants are the Raytheon Company, the Lockheed Martin Corporation, and the United States government.

The Krick suit gained momentum when it absorbed information gleaned from a FOIA suit brought by Tom Stalcup, a no-nonsense physicist who has been pursuing this case since he was a grad student in 1996. To establish his claims Stalcup was granted subpoena power and was able to depose several key witnesses from within the investigation.
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—After the incident, the federal government released a false report contending that the explosion was the result of an electrical fire in the airplane’s center fuel tank.

—Only recently, thanks to the work of physicist, Dr. Thomas Stalcup, through his Freedom of Information Act (“FOIA”) litigation in Massachusetts federal court, has evidence emerged proving that TWA 800’s explosion was not caused by any defect in the airplane, but instead by an errant United States missile fired at aerial target drones flying nearby.

—The evidence unearthed by Dr. Stalcup establishes that the United States, including its agencies, such as the United States Missile Defense Agency (formerly known as the Ballistic Missile Defense Organization), the United States Department of Defense, and the United States Navy (the “Government Defendants”), acting in concert and working side-by-side with Raytheon Company and Lockheed Martin Corporation (the “Contractor Defendants”) and DOES 1 through 20, inclusive (collectively the “Defendants”) were testing the Aegis Weapons System and firing SM-2 missiles with live warheads from warship(s) at aerial missile targets off the coast of New York in close proximity to commercial airline flight paths. One such missile struck TWA flight 800, causing it to break apart and crash into the Atlantic Ocean, killing everyone aboard.

—Newly discovered evidence also shows that these Defendants engaged in a top-down cover-up to prevent the public from learning the truth about TWA 800. Proof of this cover-up, and of Defendants’ underlying culpability for the crash, was only recently unearthed by Dr. Stalcup after more than a decade of FOIA litigation against the Government Defendants.


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It wouldn't be the first time something like this has been covered up and swept under the rug...
What we do know is that the Boeing 747-100 has had an excellent flight history and Flight 800 is on of the enigmas that has not been explained.
Oddly the 747 still flies world-wide with a stellar safety record....

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I agree. There were over one hundred witnesses who saw an object fly towards that plane right before it exploded.
The plane, reports say, broke in half, witnesses thought the aircraft, containing the wings, was a missle being shot at it, but it was on fire and flew straight up, and this is why witnesses thought they saw a missile.

 
You might want to vet your sources.
Most of what I’ve seen supports fuel tank explosion and no sign of projectile attack.
Great, explain why radar records of the incident were confiscated?

Or why NTSB was bounced from the investigation or why eyewitness interviews weren't conducted.
 
Lawsuit against Raytheon has been unfolding for years. Reports from pilots and others originally claimed of ordnance going from ground to altitude. All were said to have been wrong. I was sure it was a coverup over a missile test, and now it may be what happened.

Ronald Krick is the father of Oliver Krick, a 25-year-old student flight engineer killed in the crash. Krick has been joined in the suit by relatives of other deceased passengers and crew. The defendants are the Raytheon Company, the Lockheed Martin Corporation, and the United States government.

The Krick suit gained momentum when it absorbed information gleaned from a FOIA suit brought by Tom Stalcup, a no-nonsense physicist who has been pursuing this case since he was a grad student in 1996. To establish his claims Stalcup was granted subpoena power and was able to depose several key witnesses from within the investigation.
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—After the incident, the federal government released a false report contending that the explosion was the result of an electrical fire in the airplane’s center fuel tank.

—Only recently, thanks to the work of physicist, Dr. Thomas Stalcup, through his Freedom of Information Act (“FOIA”) litigation in Massachusetts federal court, has evidence emerged proving that TWA 800’s explosion was not caused by any defect in the airplane, but instead by an errant United States missile fired at aerial target drones flying nearby.

—The evidence unearthed by Dr. Stalcup establishes that the United States, including its agencies, such as the United States Missile Defense Agency (formerly known as the Ballistic Missile Defense Organization), the United States Department of Defense, and the United States Navy (the “Government Defendants”), acting in concert and working side-by-side with Raytheon Company and Lockheed Martin Corporation (the “Contractor Defendants”) and DOES 1 through 20, inclusive (collectively the “Defendants”) were testing the Aegis Weapons System and firing SM-2 missiles with live warheads from warship(s) at aerial missile targets off the coast of New York in close proximity to commercial airline flight paths. One such missile struck TWA flight 800, causing it to break apart and crash into the Atlantic Ocean, killing everyone aboard.

—Newly discovered evidence also shows that these Defendants engaged in a top-down cover-up to prevent the public from learning the truth about TWA 800. Proof of this cover-up, and of Defendants’ underlying culpability for the crash, was only recently unearthed by Dr. Stalcup after more than a decade of FOIA litigation against the Government Defendants.



TWA 800 came down in Long Island Sound, not the Atlantic. My brother was one of the Coasties that fished out the bodies.
 
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What I saw was pretty convincing.
Smithsonian Channel covered it comprehensively.
It was never proven conclusively.

IIRC,.....that was produced by CIA.

Let me clarify that..... CIA conveniently provided the graphic representation......in my experience, NTSB always provided the graphics.

Why this time?

The majority of NTSB investigations are proven.
 
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One probable explanation, though a discomforting one, is that TWA-800 was shot down by a missile, but not a wayward US Navy one, rather it was a MANPAD ~Stinger, likely fired by Islamic Jihad/terrorists.

Before getting into the case and evidence, a reminder that the USA passed out hundreds of Stingers to the Afghanis/mujahedin fighting the Russians who had occupied in support of the Marxist government, during the 1980s.

When the Soviets left, the US tried to recover the unused Stingers, but the majority were never returned.

It's possible one, or more, was smuggled into the USA and used on TWA-800. IIRC, there was an El Al ~ Israeli airline ~ 747 as scheduled to take off about the same time as TWA-800 and the "wrong" aircraft may have been targeted. At altitude and from underneath, most 747s look alike.

Part of reason for coverups might have been the embarrassment of Islamic Jihad (terrorists) being able to smuggle such a weapon into the USA and use it as they did.*

There's the thumbnail, back cover synopsis. More details and evidence in next post(s).
 
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