Carl in Michigan
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Do you know that there is never a penalty to Godvernment agents LYING to citizens?So I take it death angel that you'd be opposed to the FBI using the crime of lying to agents in order squeeze cooperation from an aider of a terrorist of child pornographerI'm not a liberal and it's not "entrapment." The OP link said even an FBI higher up (forgot who and am not going back) asked "are we investigating a crime here, or just trying to get 'a lie'" Flynn was the focking Natl Sec Advisor to the President, and he was also a foreign representative. If the FBI was investigating Flynn and Turkey in relation to how he advised the President, and he lied …. I'd say drop him in a deep and dark and unfriendly hole. What he did was arguably worse the Snowden or Chelsea Manning.For this reason, no REAL liberal should ever support a law that criminalizes "lying" to investigators. It becomes their immediate goal from the start. If they can get someone to lie (or even appear to have lied) they can abuse that person to no end. It is the very essence of entrapment and that law MUST go.He may well have pled just to get the Feds to stop racking him, but that doesn't mean he didn't lie to FBI agents. He did. What Barr/Turley are saying is that the FBI's reason to interview Flynn was primarily to get him to lie, and this would create a tool for the FBI to squeeze Flynn by giving him a choice between financial ruin for his family or to betray Trump.
Not because I give a particular shit about a life-long Democrat like Flynn. Rather, I care about liberty. This power given to the FBI is way too easy to abuse.
Until that law is repealed, I will NEVER cooperate with the fucking suits without a hand-signed guarantee letter of absolute lifetime immunity from the FBI director him/herself. Even then, I might be hesitant. They can KISS MY ASS otherwise!!!
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But the FBI already know the facts of what Flynn had done to dishonor himself and potentially harm the country.
When push comes to shove on this issue, the question is whether the FBI's underhanded tricks would bother you if they used them to lock up a child pornographer or even get a terrorist aider to flip.
Dont you see a problem there?
Btw, HE DIDNT LIE. He pled guilty to protect his son.
When a Godvernment with UNLIMITED RESOURCES comes against YOU, you cannot win.
Playing stupid on this is destroying your party with the few moderates you have left.