Turkey indicts IDF commanders over Gaza flotilla deaths

[georgephillip]

Turkey should be indicted for war crimes: the Armenian genocide, suppressing the Kurds, and the unlawful occupation of Cyprus.

The Kurds for sure.
I'm not sure who you would prosecute for the Genocide.
Do you have any links to Cyprus?

 

[toastman]

Maybe IDF "special forces" aren't so special after all?
Did they forget to bring their paintball guns?
If they weren't violating international law, they would not have been forced to "defend" themselves.

My God, you are so stupid. I mean, why do you even bother arguing when you know you are wrong ??

Your ignorance is matched only by your arrogance. (Are you stupid or Jewish?)

"The Scottish journalist and documentary film-maker Hassan Ghani, 24 and from Glasgow, was on board the Mavi Marmara, the Turkish vessel attacked by Israeli forces. He was seen broadcasting for PressTV as the commandos took control of the ship.

"In footage shown on YouTube, Ghani said: 'This is the MC Marmara, Hassan Ghani reporting for PressTV. We've had several injuries here; one is critical. He has been injured in the head and we think he may die if he doesn't receive medical treatment urgently.

"Another person being passed in front of me right now has been seriously injured. We are being hit by tear gas, stun grenades. We've navy ships on either side. We're being attacked from every single side. This is international waters and not Israeli waters, not in the 68-mile exclusion zone.

"We're being attacked in international waters completely illegally.'"

Gaza Freedom flotilla carried world-renowned names and veteran activists | World news | The Guardian

Maybe you "think" some people are entitled to "choose" which laws they obey?

Do you understand that Israel had attempted MANY times to tell the ship to stop before they boarded???
Do you really believe that Israel just saw the ship and send Special Forces on it right away?

ANd I dont care what a Scottish journalist named Hassan Ghani said. Anti-Israel Arabs are known for their lies with the intention to make Israel look bad.

Do you really believe what you post you ignorant monkey?? sometimes I read your post and I'm astonished at your stupidity. I mean completely astonished. You (as well as many others on this board) are living in a fairytale world, making up stories or altering them the way that suits your points better.

I can call you many names now, but the best would be LIAR

 

[Jos]

A United Nations Human Rights Council fact-finding mission was charged by the UN to undertake an investigation of the IDF raid.[44] In its September 2010 report the UN panel found that the IDF broke international law, and that there was evidence sufficient to initiate prosecutions for breaches of the Geneva Convention. In particular, the panel, after interviewing more than 100 witnesses, found clear evidence for prosecution for the war crimes of "wilful killing; torture or inhuman treatment; wilfully causing great suffering or serious injury to body or health" under Article 147 of the Fourth Geneva Convention.[45] The report stated that:

"The conduct of the Israeli military and other personnel towards the flotilla passengers was not only disproportionate to the occasion but demonstrated levels of totally unnecessary and incredible violence.”[45]

The UNHRC fact-finding mission also determined based on both "forensic and firearm evidence" that Furkan Dogan, a 19-year-old American citizen of Turkish descent, and five Turkish citizens were killed execution-style on May 31 on the MV Mavi Marmara by the Israeli commandos. The report of the fact-finding mission stated that the killing of Dogan and the five Turks by the Israeli commandos "can be characterized as extra-legal, arbitrary and summary executions."

Legal assessments of the Gaza flotilla raid - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And in International waters

 

[ForeverYoung436]

A United Nations Human Rights Council fact-finding mission was charged by the UN to undertake an investigation of the IDF raid.[44] In its September 2010 report the UN panel found that the IDF broke international law, and that there was evidence sufficient to initiate prosecutions for breaches of the Geneva Convention. In particular, the panel, after interviewing more than 100 witnesses, found clear evidence for prosecution for the war crimes of "wilful killing; torture or inhuman treatment; wilfully causing great suffering or serious injury to body or health" under Article 147 of the Fourth Geneva Convention.[45] The report stated that:

"The conduct of the Israeli military and other personnel towards the flotilla passengers was not only disproportionate to the occasion but demonstrated levels of totally unnecessary and incredible violence.”[45]

The UNHRC fact-finding mission also determined based on both "forensic and firearm evidence" that Furkan Dogan, a 19-year-old American citizen of Turkish descent, and five Turkish citizens were killed execution-style on May 31 on the MV Mavi Marmara by the Israeli commandos. The report of the fact-finding mission stated that the killing of Dogan and the five Turks by the Israeli commandos "can be characterized as extra-legal, arbitrary and summary executions."

Legal assessments of the Gaza flotilla raid - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And in International waters

What else could Israel have done? The Turks were invading Israel.

 

[docmauser1]

The UNHRC fact-finding mission also determined based on both "forensic and firearm evidence" that Furkan Dogan, a 19-year-old American citizen of Turkish descent, and five Turkish citizens were killed execution-style on May 31 on the MV Mavi Marmara by the Israeli commandos. The report of the fact-finding mission stated that the killing of Dogan and the five Turks by the Israeli commandos "can be characterized as extra-legal, arbitrary and summary executions."

]And in International waters.

Was the blond girl present there too?

 

[Jos]

A United Nations Human Rights Council fact-finding mission was charged by the UN to undertake an investigation of the IDF raid.[44] In its September 2010 report the UN panel found that the IDF broke international law, and that there was evidence sufficient to initiate prosecutions for breaches of the Geneva Convention. In particular, the panel, after interviewing more than 100 witnesses, found clear evidence for prosecution for the war crimes of "wilful killing; torture or inhuman treatment; wilfully causing great suffering or serious injury to body or health" under Article 147 of the Fourth Geneva Convention.[45] The report stated that:

"The conduct of the Israeli military and other personnel towards the flotilla passengers was not only disproportionate to the occasion but demonstrated levels of totally unnecessary and incredible violence.”[45]

The UNHRC fact-finding mission also determined based on both "forensic and firearm evidence" that Furkan Dogan, a 19-year-old American citizen of Turkish descent, and five Turkish citizens were killed execution-style on May 31 on the MV Mavi Marmara by the Israeli commandos. The report of the fact-finding mission stated that the killing of Dogan and the five Turks by the Israeli commandos "can be characterized as extra-legal, arbitrary and summary executions."

Legal assessments of the Gaza flotilla raid - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And in International waters

What else could Israel have done? The Turks were invading Israel.

They were going to Gaza, is Gaza a part of israel?
Plus they were still in international water
Are israeli ships fair game in international waters too?

 

[georgephillip]

My God, you are so stupid. I mean, why do you even bother arguing when you know you are wrong ??

Your ignorance is matched only by your arrogance. (Are you stupid or Jewish?)

"The Scottish journalist and documentary film-maker Hassan Ghani, 24 and from Glasgow, was on board the Mavi Marmara, the Turkish vessel attacked by Israeli forces. He was seen broadcasting for PressTV as the commandos took control of the ship.

"In footage shown on YouTube, Ghani said: 'This is the MC Marmara, Hassan Ghani reporting for PressTV. We've had several injuries here; one is critical. He has been injured in the head and we think he may die if he doesn't receive medical treatment urgently.

"Another person being passed in front of me right now has been seriously injured. We are being hit by tear gas, stun grenades. We've navy ships on either side. We're being attacked from every single side. This is international waters and not Israeli waters, not in the 68-mile exclusion zone.

"We're being attacked in international waters completely illegally.'"

Gaza Freedom flotilla carried world-renowned names and veteran activists | World news | The Guardian

Maybe you "think" some people are entitled to "choose" which laws they obey?

Do you understand that Israel had attempted MANY times to tell the ship to stop before they boarded???
Do you really believe that Israel just saw the ship and send Special Forces on it right away?

ANd I dont care what a Scottish journalist named Hassan Ghani said. Anti-Israel Arabs are known for their lies with the intention to make Israel look bad.

Do you really believe what you post you ignorant monkey?? sometimes I read your post and I'm astonished at your stupidity. I mean completely astonished. You (as well as many others on this board) are living in a fairytale world, making up stories or altering them the way that suits your points better.

I can call you many names now, but the best would be LIAR

Another eye-witness, a former US Marine, attests to the integrity and courage of the IDF during their illegal boarding of the Mavi Marmara:

"I said this straight to Israeli agents, probably of Mossad or Shin Bet, and I say it again now, on the morning of the attack I was directly involved in the disarming of two Israeli Commandos. This was a forcible, non-negotiable, separation of weapons from commandos who had already murdered two brothers that I had seen that day.

"One brother with a bullet entering dead center in his forehead, in what appeared to be an execution.

"I knew the commandos were murdering when I removed a 9mm pistol from one of them. I had that gun in my hands and as an ex-US Marine with training in the use of guns it was completely within my power to use that gun on the commando who may have been the murderer of one of my brothers.

"But that is not what I, nor any other defender of the ship did. I took that weapon away, removed the bullets, proper lead bullets, separated them from the weapon and hid the gun. I did this in the hopes that we would repel the attack and submit this weapon as evidence in a criminal trial against Israeli authorities for mass murder.

"I also helped to physically separate one commando from his assault rifle, which another brother apparently threw into the sea.

"I and hundreds of others know the truth that makes a mockery of the brave and moral Israeli military.

"We had in our full possession, three completely disarmed and helpless commandos. These boys were at our mercy, they were out of reach of their fellow murderers, inside the ship and surrounded by 100 or more men. I looked into the eyes of all three of these boys and I can tell you they had the fear of God in them.

"They looked at us as if we were them, and I have no doubt they did not believe there was any way they would survive that day. They looked like frightened children in the face of an abusive father."

On Cowardice and Violence » Counterpunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names

I couldn't care less what stupid shit like you think about me or my opinions.
The Jewish State is swirling the same drain as White South Africa a generation ago.
Good riddance to both (and you too, *****)

 

[P F Tinmore]

fret not FOREVER-----this silly crap of indicting israeli soldiers will come to nothing

Really, every time Israel attacks it has to defend itself.

 

[irosie91]

fret not FOREVER-----this silly crap of indicting israeli soldiers will come to nothing

Really, every time Israel attacks it has to defend itself.

so? what else is new? Israel defends itself -----a fact you cannot tolerate. Interestingly according to the filth of shariah----ISRAEL DEFENDING ITSELF IS ILLEGAL.
Turks murdered two million armenians-----men women and children for trying to DEFEND THEMSELVES

 

[P F Tinmore]

fret not FOREVER-----this silly crap of indicting israeli soldiers will come to nothing

Really, every time Israel attacks it has to defend itself.

so? what else is new? Israel defends itself -----a fact you cannot tolerate. Interestingly according to the filth of shariah----ISRAEL DEFENDING ITSELF IS ILLEGAL.
Turks murdered two million armenians-----men women and children for trying to DEFEND THEMSELVES

Turks murdered two million armenians-----men women and children for trying to DEFEND THEMSELVES

Wrong forum.

This is the Israel and Palestine forum.

 

[irosie91]

Really, every time Israel attacks it has to defend itself.

so? what else is new? Israel defends itself -----a fact you cannot tolerate. Interestingly according to the filth of shariah----ISRAEL DEFENDING ITSELF IS ILLEGAL.
Turks murdered two million armenians-----men women and children for trying to DEFEND THEMSELVES

Turks murdered two million armenians-----men women and children for trying to DEFEND THEMSELVES

Wrong forum.

This is the Israel and Palestine forum.

very idiotic response Tinnie The fact of the Armenian genocide is very germane to the issue in Palestine---and in Indonesia and in India/Pakistan and in Nigeria and in Kenya and in Sudan and in Malaysia and in the history of the world in the past 1400 years

 

[docmauser1]

If one third of the population of Mandate Palestine had not inflicted a Jewish State by force of arms upon Palestine in 1948, we would not be having many of these discussions today. Would you call those responsible for the infliction of the Jewish State self-haters, or greedy kosher pigs?

An "i-fmoney-grew-on-trees" dumbass question, of course.

 

[georgephillip]

If one third of the population of Mandate Palestine had not inflicted a Jewish State by force of arms upon Palestine in 1948, we would not be having many of these discussions today. Would you call those responsible for the infliction of the Jewish State self-haters, or greedy kosher pigs?

An "i-fmoney-grew-on-trees" dumbass question, of course.

Only for a self-hating kosher pig.
Why am I not surprised?

 

[irosie91]

Only for a self-hating kosher pig.
Why am I not surprised

<<<< from the minds and wisdom of the victims of a culture and religion
of filth and corruption HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF PERVERTED WHORES AND PIMPS_-----the dogs out from the entrails of hell

 

[georgephillip]

Can you grasp the fact that there are PERVERTED WHORES and PIMPS among Jews and Christians as well as Muslims? PERVERTED WHORES and PIMPS, not to mention western corporations, played a leading role in the creation of the State of Israel.

 

[irosie91]

Can you grasp the fact that there are PERVERTED WHORES and PIMPS among Jews and Christians as well as Muslims? PERVERTED WHORES and PIMPS, not to mention western corporations, played a leading role in the creation of the State of Israel.

yes----there are perverted whores and pimps amongst both jews and christians. Your comment that "western corportations created the state of Israel" is ludicrous----The state of Israel already existed in the 1800s and had no connection to western corporations at all. Western corporations created the perverted shariah shit hole SAUDI ARABIA

as to whores and pimps amongst jews and christians----they are called CRIMINALS----amongst muslims -----whores and pimps are called HOLY----MUJAHADEEN <<<especially the males who rape and the sluts who put bombs on their stinking asses

 

[Hossfly]

Really, every time Israel attacks it has to defend itself.

so? what else is new? Israel defends itself -----a fact you cannot tolerate. Interestingly according to the filth of shariah----ISRAEL DEFENDING ITSELF IS ILLEGAL.
Turks murdered two million armenians-----men women and children for trying to DEFEND THEMSELVES

Turks murdered two million armenians-----men women and children for trying to DEFEND THEMSELVES

Wrong forum.

This is the Israel and Palestine forum.

Bugger off, Tinmore. Raus! Scat!

 

[georgephillip]

Can you grasp the fact that there are PERVERTED WHORES and PIMPS among Jews and Christians as well as Muslims? PERVERTED WHORES and PIMPS, not to mention western corporations, played a leading role in the creation of the State of Israel.

yes----there are perverted whores and pimps amongst both jews and christians. Your comment that "western corportations created the state of Israel" is ludicrous----The state of Israel already existed in the 1800s and had no connection to western corporations at all. Western corporations created the perverted shariah shit hole SAUDI ARABIA

as to whores and pimps amongst jews and christians----they are called CRIMINALS----amongst muslims -----whores and pimps are called HOLY----MUJAHADEEN <<<especially the males who rape and the sluts who put bombs on their stinking asses

Now you're tell us the Rothschild dynasty had/has nothing to do with western corporations?

"Walter Rothschild was the eldest son and heir of Lord [Nathan] Rothschild, an immensely wealthy financier, of the international Rothschild financial dynasty, the first unconverted (to Christianity) Jewish peer in England."

Mention that to Lord Balfour when you meet the old whore.

Walter Rothschild, 2nd Baron Rothschild - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[kvetch]

so? what else is new? Israel defends itself -----a fact you cannot tolerate. Interestingly according to the filth of shariah----ISRAEL DEFENDING ITSELF IS ILLEGAL.
Turks murdered two million armenians-----men women and children for trying to DEFEND THEMSELVES

Turks murdered two million armenians-----men women and children for trying to DEFEND THEMSELVES

Wrong forum.

This is the Israel and Palestine forum.

Bugger off, Tinmore. Raus! Scat!

eaten enough wetsu shit, hossy?

got indigestion or what?

 

[kvetch]

Can you grasp the fact that there are PERVERTED WHORES and PIMPS among Jews and Christians as well as Muslims? PERVERTED WHORES and PIMPS, not to mention western corporations, played a leading role in the creation of the State of Israel.

yes----there are perverted whores and pimps amongst both jews and christians. Your comment that "western corportations created the state of Israel" is ludicrous----The state of Israel already existed in the 1800s and had no connection to western corporations at all. Western corporations created the perverted shariah shit hole SAUDI ARABIA

as to whores and pimps amongst jews and christians----they are called CRIMINALS----amongst muslims -----whores and pimps are called HOLY----MUJAHADEEN <<<especially the males who rape and the sluts who put bombs on their stinking asses

Now you're tell us the Rothschild dynasty had/has nothing to do with western corporations?

"Walter Rothschild was the eldest son and heir of Lord [Nathan] Rothschild, an immensely wealthy financier, of the international Rothschild financial dynasty, the first unconverted (to Christianity) Jewish peer in England."

Mention that to Lord Balfour when you meet the old whore.

Walter Rothschild, 2nd Baron Rothschild - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

rothschild, yes

but early zionism doesn't really fit the socialist paradigm of evil corporations, etc

most early zionists were left wing and socialist and came from eastern not western europe