Ray From Cleveland
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If we had more jobs than we knew what to do with, what was the benefit of Trump going after China?
Long term stability in trade. Didn't I just tell you that?
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If we had more jobs than we knew what to do with, what was the benefit of Trump going after China?
Well you did have Democrats not wanting to invest in important energy segments like coal. And the border wall would have made a great infrastructure project.Not what Trump said in 2016. He made it sound like the American economy was in shambles.
Lowered taxes.What wasn't good that Trump turned around?
Be specific.
Almost none of that actually is “the economy”.Lowered taxes.
Got rid of some of government regulation.
Got us energy independent.
Got rid of the mandate on Obama care.
Just a few off the top of my head.
What does that mean? Like, in concrete terms?Long term stability in trade. Didn't I just tell you that?
All but one is.Almost none of that actually is “the economy”.
I don’t think Trump did anything to make us energy independent. That’s as close as you got. US energy production had been ballooning prior to his taking office. There wasn’t a turn around. It was a continuation of a tend.All but one is.
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When you let people keep more of their money to spend on things. Yes that's about the economy. Regulations against companies effects their bottom dollar and yes that will also effect the economy. You probably think the government should take what we got and give us what they think we deserve.I don’t think Trump did anything to make us energy independent. That’s as close as you got. US energy production had been ballooning prior to his taking office. There wasn’t a turn around. It was a continuation of a tend.
That’s as close as you got.
Taxes are not the economy. Obamacare mandates aren’t the economy. Regulations aren’t the economy. They can all affect the economy. The question is did they? (And at what cost, we were running a trillion dollar deficit after all)
Like I said, those things are totally capable of affecting the economy.When you let people keep more of their money to spend on things. Yes that's about the economy. Regulations against companies effects their bottom dollar and yes that will also effect the economy. You probably think the government should take what we got and give us what they think we deserve.
Like the one that Trump's buddy Bannon was going to build?Well you did have Democrats not wanting to invest in important energy segments like coal. And the border wall would have made a great infrastructure project.
Many of which come from your political perspective, I might add.DRoOLIng IdIoTS.
I don’t think Trump did anything to make us energy independent. That’s as close as you got. US energy production had been ballooning prior to his taking office. There wasn’t a turn around. It was a continuation of a tend.
That’s as close as you got.
I know that’s the narrative, but reality is that oil production increased under Obama. It increased under Trump (before crashing).The Communist party interferes with fossil fuels every chance they get. Fracking during the DumBama years made some great advancements and prices plunged. Trump being a pro-energy President didn't interfere with fuel production the way Hillary would have, and even encouraged it.
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I know that’s the narrative, but reality is that oil production increased under Obama. It increased under Trump (before crashing).
And you can’t really tell the difference.
All you have is narrative. It’s not real.
There’s data and there’s narrative.Right, and the prices at the gas station aren't real either. Neither are our natural gas or propane bills to stay warm this winter.
The only reason DumBama couldn't stop fuel production in the US is because a lot of our fuel comes from private land. He had little control over what property owners can do with their properties.
I mean, is't cherry picking exactly what's going on here?More would know if more of the media was actually reporting news honestly and truthfully allover the place instead of ignoring facts, cherry picking stories to push an agenda, and werent a tool of democrats.
There’s data and there’s narrative.
You’re all narrative. You decide what is true and then bend reality to fit it and ignore what doesn’t.
If Obama had little control, so did Trump. I’ll agree to that. The US oil production has next to nothing to do with presidential politics. Stop acting like they’re the most important factor.
They’re not. Far from it. Very very far.
That’s reality. But reality doesn’t work for “Trump good, democrats bad”, so you ignore it.
Trump could be pro-Martian. It doesn’t matter if he has no effect.Yes, DumBama had little control, and if Trump was so against fossil fuel as the commies, it would have slowed him down too. But the fact of the matter is that Trump was pro-energy, and Dementia is anti-energy, and you think our huge increase in fuel prices is all just dumb luck.