Trump's Tariffs Seriously Reducing The National Debt

At best the tariffs will slow the debt increase. But all of Trumps spending, and debt ceiling increases, once all that kicks in, the tariffs won't even make a dent in the debt.
We also don't yet know what all these cost increases are going to look like on American businesses' cash flows, earnings and capital expenditures. It could be a year or two before we have an accurate picture.

There are ways a business may be able to mitigate (to some degree) the gross costs, but anyone who is already crowing about the tariff dollars without knowing the ultimate NET effect is simply ignorant.
 
Huh? You said didn't the CBO project about the tax bill spending deficit?

Huh? All I know is trump's tariffs are not seriously reducing the national debt. That's the thread title right? And you agree that's a flat out lie?

  • In August 2025, the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) projected that if recent tariff rates are maintained, they could reduce federal deficits by $4 trillion over the next decade.
  • The CBO's estimate accounts for both the increased revenue from tariffs and the reduced spending on interest payments due to less federal borrowing.
  • However, even with these higher revenues, the tariffs alone are not enough to eliminate the annual budget deficit, which is projected to grow due to other spending and tax bills.
  • Small portion of revenue: Tariffs currently account for a relatively small percentage of overall government receipts compared to income and payroll taxes.
  • Revenue reduction over time: As tariffs increase, importers and consumers may adjust their purchasing patterns, leading to reduced imports and, eventually, less tariff revenue collected over time.
  • Broader economic impact: Tariffs can slow economic growth, reduce wages, and increase consumer prices, which can negatively affect other sources of tax revenue and partially offset any gains from the tariffs.
The tariffs will end the annual deficit of 1.6 trillion. Tariffs bring in 1 trillion a year. Then the national debt can start to be reduced
 
Which does not change the fact that US businesses and consumers paid for most of the cost of Trump's tariffs then and will do so now. Also consider:


Trump's tariffs generated approximately $80 billion in revenue during his first term. This figure comes from various analyses of tariff collections, particularly on imports from China and other countries. The tariffs were part of a broader trade policy aimed at protecting American industries and reducing trade deficits.


His tariffs weren't that much in his 1st term. But this time if it's going to increase revenue up to $400-$500 billion, then somebody has to pay for that and that 'somebody' is the American consumers and companies. Inflation will be higher as a result of higher prices. It hasn't so far, but it will. It often takes time for economic policies or market changes to impact prices, making it a reflection of past economic activity rather than a predictor of future trends.
When inflation was only 2% under Trump 1 then that’s a pretty weak argument.
 

In CBO’s projections, the federal budget deficit is $1.9 trillion this year​


So, in the next ten years the deficit will only be $1.5 trillion each year, whoop-de-fuckin-do. And that is if Trump's tariffs stay in place over the next ten years, right? With no change in anybody's behavior, right? That's how democrats figure their extra revenue from higher taxes, as if people and businesses (countries) won't do things differently. Is that now okay? It sure as hell isn't reality.
The CBO is always wrong because they never account for increases in GDP and tax revenues. The tariffs are on track to bring in 1 trillion a year. More than enough.
 
The very first earth day they predicted that the earth would be depleted of resources for human life in 2000. Well we are just fine, they cannot predict the weather for tomorrow. But they tell us how it will be in 10 years, and guess what? They are always wrong.
The very first "Earth Day" was purposely made on Vladimir Lenin's 100th "birthday" by the communist scumbags behind it all. :evil:
 
The demented LEFT are completely stuck on default OMB must resist and oppose EVERYTHING.
This country used to RUN on tariffs until the LEFT invented INCOME TAX on the People.
They never mention or acknowledge that other countries have been charging the USA with non-reciprocal TARIFFS for DECADES.
All they have is terminal TDS.
It is PATHETIC.
 
yep, and the consumer is unaffected and not paying anymore for a product due to them. Yep!!! I know it, but those you flirt with daily in here have no fking clue. They are puppets and have hands up their asses screaming nonsense daily and hourly.
name a product that increased price due to tariffs. there will be silence or an insult coming.
 
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When inflation was only 2% under Trump 1 then that’s a pretty weak argument.
I didn't think the validity of the statement that says American consumers and businesses will pay for most of the cost of tariffs is dependent on any amount or percentage. If you're talking about $400- 500 billion in tariffs each year then that ain't weak. I would agree that in and of itself tariffs are not a major driver of inflation, but it ain't nothin' either if you're talking about that much money. That's a pretty hefty increase in regressive taxes, which is basically what a tariff is.
 
Problem. either party can say anything. Talking, promises & throwing numbers around.
Sad part its going to take time for the actual facts to come out.
 
Bissent says "oh noes, our tariff taxing scheme is in jeopardy!"

Treasury Secretary Bessent warns of massive refunds if the Supreme Court voids Trump tariffs

Published Sun, Sep 7 20253:28 PM EDTUpdated 3 Hours Ago
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  • Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent said he is “confident” President Donald Trump’s tariff plan “will win” at the Supreme Court, but warned the U.S. would be forced to issue massive refunds if it loses.
  • National Economic Council Director Kevin Hassett noted that there are “other legal authorities” that the administration could use if the tariffs are blocked.
  • Before court action, Trump’s tariffs were set to affect nearly 70% of U.S. goods imports.
 
I didn't think the validity of the statement that says American consumers and businesses will pay for most of the cost of tariffs is dependent on any amount or percentage. If you're talking about $400- 500 billion in tariffs each year then that ain't weak. I would agree that in and of itself tariffs are not a major driver of inflation, but it ain't nothin' either if you're talking about that much money. That's a pretty hefty increase in regressive taxes, which is basically what a tariff is.
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These were the inflation totals in Trump's first year. The fed and economists actually want 2% inflation and not lower. You are complaining about tariffs as if they were some kind of a problem. They weren't and they aren't.
 
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These were the inflation totals in Trump's first year. The fed and economists actually want 2% inflation and not lower. You are complaining about tariffs as if they were some kind of a problem. They weren't and they aren't.

You don't seem to realize that Trump's tariffs in his 1st term amounted to about $80 billion, whereas his tariffs this time are said to approach $500 billion per year. IMHO, that is not inconsequential.
 
You don't seem to realize that Trump's tariffs in his 1st term amounted to about $80 billion, whereas his tariffs this time are said to approach $500 billion per year. IMHO, that is not inconsequential.
And you don't seem to realize that we have taken in over 200 billion dollars in tariffs and inflation has only risen by a very small miniscule amount. You even acknowledge that those tariff costs haven't shown up yet in prices Americans pay. But, you say it's right around the corner. And, I doubt any increased prices due to tariffs will ever come close to Biden and the democrats' economic policies which brought us a19% inflation total over four years. Why don't you just wait and see and then, if it happens, then you can say you told us so? Right now I'm telling you not so and the best you can say is, "Yeah, but it's coming'.
 
And you don't seem to realize that we have taken in over 200 billion dollars in tariffs and inflation has only risen by a very small miniscule amount. You even acknowledge that those tariff costs haven't shown up yet in prices Americans pay. But, it's right around the corner. And, I doubt any increased prices due to tariffs will ever come in close to Biden and the democrats' economic policies which brought us a19% inflation total over four years. Why don't you just wait and see and then, if it happens, then you can say you told us so?

Treasury Secretary Bessent warns of massive refunds if the Supreme Court voids Trump tariffs​


Refunds should not be a consideration in its decision. Usually, sycophancy to trump is enough.
 
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So Trumpers are just now learning that increasing taxes would pay down the debt.

You guys are adorable!
And what's even better, foreign manufacturers are paying much of those taxes, thus decreasing the debt for us. If Democrats are stupid they would understand that.
 
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And what's even better, foreign manufacturers are paying much of those taxes, thus decreasing the debt for us. If Democrats are stupid they would understand that.
It looks like you were smart enough to see how those numbers are going down.
 
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