Trump's tariffs leading to welfare farming

[odanny]

They've never been as worried as they are now. Trump is killing the American farmer's markets.

This is terrible, but don't take my word for it.

 

[odanny]

Its not tariffs. Its Bidenflation poor energy policies EPA regulations and too much government

Wrong on all counts.

Except for "too much government" (i.e., Trump)

 

[Winston]

Link?

US exports of soybeans declined sharply immediately after China put the tariffs in place in 2018. Soybeans lost more than 75% of their export value to China between 2018 and 2019, according to a report from the USDA.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/08/politics/soybean-farmers-china-tariff-trump

 

[struth]

US exports of soybeans declined sharply immediately after China put the tariffs in place in 2018. Soybeans lost more than 75% of their export value to China between 2018 and 2019, according to a report from the USDA.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/08/politics/soybean-farmers-china-tariff-trump

That doesn't say they didn't have them on before....also should be noted that after that, Trump's polices got China to make a record soybean purchase in 2020.

China to Buy Record Amount of American Soybeans in 2020​

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-08-26/cheap-american-soybeans-set-to-lure-record-chinese-purchases

 

[Winston]

Its not tariffs. Its Bidenflation poor energy policies EPA regulations and too much government

You are like a trained parrot, Spouting off talking points that have no bearing on reality. Tell me, what specific EPA regulations are putting farmers out of business, and which ones, if any, has Trump eliminated? How much government involvement is there in a farming operation? Do inspectors show up? Have you ever even set foot on a farm, let alone be involved in operational management? With subsidies and buybacks I would say the farmer already gets more assistance from the government than any hindrance and we are not even talking about soil testing that the government provides.

 

[Winston]

That doesn't say they didn't have them on before....also should be noted that after that, Trump's polices got China to make a record soybean purchase in 2020.

China to Buy Record Amount of American Soybeans in 2020​

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-08-26/cheap-american-soybeans-set-to-lure-record-chinese-purchases

Then you show me that the tariffs existed before Trump. Oh, and China failed to keep the promises made in the Phase One deal.

 

[struth]

Then you show me that the tariffs existed before Trump. Oh, and China failed to keep the promises made in the Phase One deal.

You are the one that made the claim they didn't....you can't prove your claim?

Well yeah, because they were able to interfere in our election and get their boy Xiden in office undoing all the work Trump had done, and now has to fix.

Congrats.

 

[MagicMike]

There are a lot of things that Trump does or says that I don't agree with but until you clowns can come up with someone to vote for who agrees with most of my values and knows the difference between a man and a woman, MAGA gets my vote.

Yeah I get it. Even pedophilia and/or aiding and abetting pedophilia wouldn't be deal breakers when it comes to TWS (Trump Worship Syndrome).

 

[Independent thinker]

Yeah I get it. Even pedophilia and/or aiding and abetting pedophilia wouldn't be deal breakers when it comes to TWS (Trump Worship Syndrome).

The left are all about pedophilia and want to teach it to young children.

 

[Winston]

You are the one that made the claim they didn't....you can't prove your claim?

Well yeah, because they were able to interfere in our election and get their boy Xiden in office undoing all the work Trump had done, and now has to fix.

Congrats.

No, there was no tariff on U.S. soybean exports to China in 2017.

Google Search

 

[struth]

No, there was no tariff on U.S. soybean exports to China in 2017.

Google Search

Your link doesn’t say that…it is discussing the 2025 tariffs and the wildly successful 2018 ones that lead to record soybean purchases

We Have been paying tariffs from China.https://www.piie.com/research/piie-charts/2024/americans-have-been-paying-tariffs-imports-china-decades

 

[Nostra]

Hey moron, are you familiar with a concept called cause and effect?
Look it up.
Here's how it works. Trump imposes a high tariff on the goods entering our country from one of our trading partners....so then that trading partner imposes it's own, high RECIPRICAL TARIFF on U.S. goods. This results in trading partners abandoning expensive U.S. goods and making deals to get those goids somewhere else, for example corn and soybeans from Brazil, beef from Argentina, and, in the case of India, oil from Russia instead of the U.S.

Why do you even bother trying to sound knowlegeable about stuff? Don't you ever get tired of failing and being such a collossal LOSER?

So, does Trump set tariffs for China? Thats a yes or no, Simp.

 

[Nostra]

US exports of soybeans declined sharply immediately after China put the tariffs in place in 2018. Soybeans lost more than 75% of their export value to China between 2018 and 2019, according to a report from the USDA.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/08/politics/soybean-farmers-china-tariff-trump

China put? Not Trump?

You lose again.

 

[Concerned American]

Maybe you should try reading a bit yourself.
Kyzr's link in post #2 does nothing to discredit my OP.
In fact the data CONFIRMS it Simp.
Do you have a reading disability?

Straight from the link in post #2:

Soybean futures extended losses toward $10 per bushel, hitting their lowest level since mid-August, as concerns over weak demand and rising competition from top producer Brazil weighed on the market. A lack of new US soybean purchases by China, amid ongoing trade tensions with Washington, continued to pressure the oilseed market. Meanwhile, Brazil’s soybean planted area for the 2025/26 season is expected to expand 1.5% to a record, as the country increasingly supplies China while Beijing avoids US oilseeds. Brazilian exports are projected to reach 6.75 million metric tons in September, up from 5.16 million tons in the same month last year, according to Anec.​

Yes, tariffs are one of the problems farmers face. But by far not the only one

Mostly its the same problem farmers have had for 150 years

They just dont get enough reward for what they produce

Everyone in the food business makes money except them

That never changes

Does America need to export corn and soybeans?

Yes if we continue to import so much from the world we need something to sell in return

But otherwise farmers could stop chasing the export rabbit that they never seem to catch and simply feed America instead

But that policy would drive many farmers off the land so I dont recommend it

 

[MagicMike]

So, does Trump set tariffs for China? Thats a yes or no, Simp.

Cause and effect.

 

[Stryder50]

Maybe you should try reading a bit yourself.
Kyzr's link in post #2 does nothing to discredit my OP.
In fact the data CONFIRMS it Simp.
Do you have a reading disability?

Straight from the link in post #2:

Soybean futures extended losses toward $10 per bushel, hitting their lowest level since mid-August, as concerns over weak demand and rising competition from top producer Brazil weighed on the market. A lack of new US soybean purchases by China, amid ongoing trade tensions with Washington, continued to pressure the oilseed market. Meanwhile, Brazil’s soybean planted area for the 2025/26 season is expected to expand 1.5% to a record, as the country increasingly supplies China while Beijing avoids US oilseeds. Brazilian exports are projected to reach 6.75 million metric tons in September, up from 5.16 million tons in the same month last year, according to Anec.​

Expanded as they cut down more of the Amazon rain-forest to convert to farmland.

 

[MagicMike]

The left are all about pedophilia and want to teach it to young children.

Fake news whataboutism. Why won't Trump release the Epstein files?

 

[Winston]

Your link doesn’t say that…it is discussing the 2025 tariffs and the wildly successful 2018 ones that lead to record soybean purchases

We Have been paying tariffs from China .https://www.piie.com/research/piie-charts/2024/americans-have-been-paying-tariffs-imports-china-decades

First, your chart shows tariffs AMERICANS paid on Chinese imports. But second, those 2018 tariffs were not "wildly successful", well, except maybe for China. Third, China never even got close to the agreed amount of purchases negotiated under the phase one agreement.

 

[braalian]

Weren’t the subsidies they’ve been receiving for decades already a form of welfare?

 

[struth]

First, your chart shows tariffs AMERICANS paid on Chinese imports. But second, those 2018 tariffs were not "wildly successful", well, except maybe for China. Third, China never even got close to the agreed amount of purchases negotiated under the phase one agreement.

well yeah, we pay tariffs on imports from China.

What are we talking about? We have been paying them, so yes, Trump put some on in response.

Of course they were wildly successful....they lead to record soybean purchases from China in 2020. How's that not a success?