I can think of two reasons, one is for TSA purposes. (like it or not)
Two is for voting legally.
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Two is for voting legally.
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My DL is a "real ID". You dont have to get a special ID in addition to your DL.
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never said it was....you ever hear of the FAA?....
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Real ID is a national digital database. Other forms of ID are not.
Thus? This can be used in the exact same way that the Chinese use social credit scores.
I honestly doubt that they can even do it with Real ID. However, if they get rid of HIPPA protections, yes, it would be then possible with a central source of data collection. And once they attach your credit score, and require it to log in to your ISP?
It will be no different than China's social credit score tracking.
You Are Being Programmed to Accept the Global ID Control Grid
by Corbett | Mar 24, 2015 | Videos | 16 comments
"Half a century ago people had to be reassured their social security card was not being used for identification. Now there are federally standardized and globally synchronized ID cards, government-sponsored online ID projects, DNA databases, and even secret databases of your newborn baby’s genetic information and nobody bats an eyelid. How did we get here, and how can we break this conditioning?"
EXPOSED: THE TRUTH ABOUT REAL ID! - Why You Need To Fight Back! - Massive Digital ID Agenda
Bumping your post. But I get the feeling that the folks who need to watch those videos and read the articles probably won't take the time to do that.
Here's a much shorter video. As he is 99.9999 percent of the time, Ron Paul was right. From the get go.
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I turned in the old DL years ago.
Originally, there were some documents for the first DL, but that was long ago.
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munkle, since someone closed the thread of yours that I was going to reply to you on about a specific point you brought up.... I'll reply to you on this thread.
I fully agree. As always, the public is being lied to.
Speaking of the hijackers... Everyone should watch the following clip. This is Michael Springmann, former head of the U.S. visa section at the American Consulate in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Watch til the end.
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I fully agree. As always, the public is being lied to.
Speaking of the hijackers... Everyone should watch the following clip. This is Michael Springmann, former head of the U.S. visa section at the American Consulate in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Watch til the end.
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Real ID is a national digital database. Other forms of ID are not.
Thus? This can be used in the exact same way that the Chinese use social credit scores.
I honestly doubt that they can even do it with Real ID. However, if they get rid of HIPPA protections, yes, it would be then possible with a central source of data collection. And once they attach your credit score, and require it to log in to your ISP?
It will be no different than China's social credit score tracking.
You Are Being Programmed to Accept the Global ID Control Grid
by Corbett | Mar 24, 2015 | Videos | 16 comments
"Half a century ago people had to be reassured their social security card was not being used for identification. Now there are federally standardized and globally synchronized ID cards, government-sponsored online ID projects, DNA databases, and even secret databases of your newborn baby’s genetic information and nobody bats an eyelid. How did we get here, and how can we break this conditioning?"
EXPOSED: THE TRUTH ABOUT REAL ID! - Why You Need To Fight Back! - Massive Digital ID Agenda
I saw nothing about a national database with Real ID. They already have your state id, no one has really explained how it's different. And as you already pointed out, SS is also used for that purpose, this is just a difference without a distinction.
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They can find you right now if you have a SS card, Driver's license, if you ever had a background check and many other ways. The Real ID requires actual proof of your legal residence which is different than some kind of enhanced way to make you do something.
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Real ID is a national digital database. Other forms of ID are not.
Thus? This can be used in the exact same way that the Chinese use social credit scores.
I honestly doubt that they can even do it with Real ID. However, if they get rid of HIPPA protections, yes, it would be then possible with a central source of data collection. And once they attach your credit score, and require it to log in to your ISP?
It will be no different than China's social credit score tracking.
You Are Being Programmed to Accept the Global ID Control Grid
by Corbett | Mar 24, 2015 | Videos | 16 comments
"Half a century ago people had to be reassured their social security card was not being used for identification. Now there are federally standardized and globally synchronized ID cards, government-sponsored online ID projects, DNA databases, and even secret databases of your newborn baby’s genetic information and nobody bats an eyelid. How did we get here, and how can we break this conditioning?"
EXPOSED: THE TRUTH ABOUT REAL ID! - Why You Need To Fight Back! - Massive Digital ID Agenda
Um your phone already tracks you minute by minute.
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What phone?
No one is required, (currently,) to own a smart phone.
I am smart enough to have never owned one.
Zincwarrior
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You don't have a phone?What phone?
No one is required, (currently,) to own a smart phone.
I am smart enough to have never owned one.
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Real ID
Threatening Your Privacy Through an Unfunded Government Mandate The federal government is trying to force states to turn your drivers license into a national ID. Unless you tell your state legislator to push back the Real ID Act will create grave dangers to privacy and impose massive financial...
". . . Once the IDs and database are in place their uses will inevitably expand to facilitate a wide range of surveillance activities. Remember the Social Security number started innocuously enough but it has become a prerequisite for a host of government services and been coopted by private companies to create massive databases of personal information. A national ID poses similar dangers; for example because "common machine-readable technology" will be required on every ID the government and businesses will be able to easily read your private information off the cards in myriad contexts.
Real ID won't just cost you your privacy. The federal government didn't give the states funds to implement the law and overcome its many administrative burdens so the billions of dollars in costs will be passed down to you in the form of increased DMV fees or taxes.
And what will you get in return? Not improved national security because IDs do nothing to stop those who haven't already been identified as threats and wrongdoers will still be able to create fake documents. In fact the IDs and database will simply create an irresistible target for identity thieves. . . "
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Only a VoIP.
To my knowledge, those can't track all your behavior minute by minute. . . do you have other information on that?
Zincwarrior
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If you have a cell phone. You are being tracked
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"No. REAL ID is a national set of standards, not a national identification card. REAL ID does not create a federal database of driver license information. Each jurisdiction continues to issue its own unique license, maintains its own records, and controls who gets access to those records and under what circumstances. The purpose of REAL ID is to make our identity documents more consistent and secure."
Yep.
Do you really believe that the FEDS won't eventually create one, once the infrastructure is all set up?
I guess you just trust the democrats more than I do.
I remember this, so does Pepperidge farm. . . .
From driver's license to digital dossier? Why some are worried about REAL ID.
With the long-delayed REAL ID deadline now days away, critics warn the law could open the door to expanded government surveillance and data-sharing.
www.usatoday.com
What are the privacy concerns around REAL ID?
". . . Alexis Hancock, Director of Engineering at the nonprofit Electronic Frontier Foundation, said the program “pushes for regimes that strip privacy from everyone and further marginalize undocumented people.”“While Real ID-compliant identification will soon be required to enter TSA checkpoints, there is no reason this can’t and won’t expand to include additional ‘official purposes’ with federal entities in the future,” she told USA TODAY in an emailed statement.
Because identifying information is currently stored at the state level, Hancock added that the program’s unified standards could make it “even easier” to transfer sensitive information over state lines, such as when state DMVs have reportedly sold data to third parties.
The American Civil Liberties Union has similarly said the law would facilitate data tracking on individuals if fully implemented. “By definitively turning driver’s licenses into a form of national identity documents, Real ID would have a tremendously destructive impact on privacy,” the organization’s website reads.
Jay Stanley, a senior policy analyst with the American Civil Liberties Union, told USA TODAY that “there have long been privacy concerns about having standardized identity systems.”
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I saw that there was a birth certificate requirement to get the old DL's.
You had already produced the proper documents to get the Real ID (Star DL)
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Sure, but airlines are private
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