Zincwarrior
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What is the difference that you are objecting to?It's pure bullshit, it's intrusive into personal business. It was a 911 mistake like everything else out of that.
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What is the difference that you are objecting to?It's pure bullshit, it's intrusive into personal business. It was a 911 mistake like everything else out of that.
.Okay I'm not reading all that, but my understanding on real ID is that it was passed before TRUMP but just keep getting extensions.
I have 100% not problem with real ID, as I support voter ID.
I have no idea what you're asking me.What is the difference that you are objecting to?
What are you objecting to about Real ID driver's license that you are not objecting to about your legacy driver's license?I have no idea what you're asking me.
I have to eat crow and say the libs were right all along about Trump being a fascist, but just not in the way they think.
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In 100 short days, by advancing the Stargate massive database centers and Real ID, Trump has shown himself to be the most authoritarian US president in history, just not in the way that liberals think. Despite his popularity with many conservatives for long-overdue, strict immigration controls, what Trump is doing behind the scenes is far more ominous.
Real ID is the unconstitutional infrastructure for a national facial recognition social control system the likes of which has never been seen before in America. The model it emulates is the social control system in China.
In The Highwire With Del Bigtree, Dr. Robert Scott Bell tells us that holders of Real ID will be forced to submit to the government’s “vaccination” demands in order for their Real ID to remain valid. In “Real ID laws are a back door to adult vaccine mandates across the U.S,” Dr. Eddy Betterman MD writes:
“Dr. Bell explains, under the Real ID Act, the Department of Homeland Security has the power to expand what rules and laws apply to Real ID, without approval or oversight from Congress.
“In other words, we can see an expansion to limiting your ability to travel if you, get this, are not fully vaccinated. Tie this into the Real ID, tie it into the Healthy People 2020 mandates where they’re looking to go in to adult mandates for vaccination,” Dr. Bell contends further.”
The language in the Real ID Act that Dr. Bell refers to is Section 205 of the Real ID Act, which:
“Gives the [DHS] Secretary all authority to issue regulations, set standards, and issue grants under this title.”
The Real ID Act, as it is written, allows for completely arbitrary behavior by the government. It does not limit what the government can require for your Real ID to be valid, or what it can do to you if it is not.
The citizens group Stand for Health Freedom writes:
“The REAL ID has the potential to eventually be used as a vaccine passport”
Multiple state legislatures such as Maine are mounting a continuing resistance to Real ID. On January 25, CBS WGME reported in “Maine lawmaker challenges federal Real ID program with new bill“:
“Multiple state legislators nationwide have presented bills trying to convince President-elect Donald Trump and Congress to end Real ID federal requirements. That push includes a bipartisan group in Maine”
The ACLU of Maine and the Maine Policy Institute support the anti-Real ID bill. The Real ID Act sparked opposition almost as soon as it was passed in 2005, but never implemented until now, with the group The 5-11 Campaign founded in 2008 for the sole purpose of repealing Real ID.
In the below video, former Bush Sr. administration Assistant Secretary of HUD and former investment banker Catherine Austin Fitts and others give an excellent overview on what is at stake with Real ID.
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Below: Catherine Austin Fitts: Real ID, Real Enforcement
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Real ID would have done nothing to stop the 9/11 hijackers
Unremarked by media, national identification documents have been declared “abhorrent” by the US Supreme Court. In Aptheker v. Secretary of State, (1964) the U.S. Supreme Court said:
Yet this April, the Trump administration declared that it would begin enforcing the national Real ID for domestic flights, and access to federal buildings.
Former congressman and Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul writes:
Below Twitter post, DHS Secretary Kristi Noem
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Why is the Trump administration telling a blatant lie?
The Trump administration insists that Real ID is not a national database of Americans. But the Papers Please Identity Project writes in “How the REAL-ID Act is creating a national ID database”:
Even staid Wikipedia acknowledges:
If different databases are linked together, and work seamlessly in answering queries and moving data, it is a “distributed” central database. Any database expert knows this. Different parts may live in different servers, but it works as one.
Not only is Real ID exactly a national central database, in which each person is assigned a unique number for the computer, the same as in communist China. The 2005 law, that previous administrations have had the good sense to let languish and not enforce, grants the Secretary of DHS the unilateral authority to add on to the requirements – the “standards” – that make a Real ID valid.
This means “vaccination” status or a “social behavior” score might be included, terminology that might be new to Americans, but not to ordinary Chinese, who know it very well.
Section 205 of the Real ID Act:
China “social credit score” system based on national ID ranks and punishes citizens without due process
That means if a “dictator” like, for example Trump if these are your political leanings, finds, through your facial recognition scan, that you were at an anti-Israel protest, or an anti-DOGE protest, you could get a black mark added to the proper field in your Real ID profile.
That could mean no air travel for you, or no gas this month, or no gun purchases. The law leaves room for completely arbitrary behavior by the government. The Real ID Act of 2005 does not limit what the government can require for you to have a valid ID, or what it can do to you if you don’t.
Come to think of it, that is exactly what they do in China. There is very little protesting the government in China. Or protesting that the tiniest fraction of the population lives like royalty, while everyone else starves on dog meat.
They also get carted off to quarantine camps by the thousands if the government says there was a new case of Covid on the block. Two of digital ID’s biggest cheerleaders, Bill Gates and Klaus Schwab, say to this day that China is a splendid example of how to deal with “health emergencies” like Covid.
Shanghai, China, April 4, 2022 after 7 days of unopposable lockdown, residents not allowed to leave apartments
National Real ID Treats Only Americans as Suspects, not Foreign Tourists or International Students
But the real kicker about Real ID, and there are many, is that it can be stone-cold proven that it has nothing to do with safety. DHS has confirmed that non-Americans, such a 5 million international tourists a year and about 1 million international students, will not need it. They will be able to travel around free as jaybirds with only their paper passports, and not worry that every movement is now being tracked and stored in a monster database somewhere for the use of future tyrants.
Business Standard reports:
Demolishing the idea that Real ID is about safety is the fact that it would do not one iota to stop the 9/11 hijackers from boarding their planes today, which they did with ordinary passports, and which Real ID still allows. This is nothing against foreign nationals. It simply proves that any argument that national Real ID is about security has a hole in it you could drive a Mack truck through.
This is not about security. This is about you.
In 2022, thousands of Canadian truckers got the attention of the world by coming out in force against Justin Trudeau’s Covid “vaccine” mandates, and stopped the spread of vaccine passports around the world in its tracks. It was one of the most awesome displays of People Power witnessed in modern times, maybe ever..
With Real ID, soon linked to facial recognition and even DNA “profiles,” as well as someday becoming a single point for all financial transactions, the elites are ensuring that this can never happen again.
Facial Recognition is Already Built in to the National Real ID Infrastructure
It is inevitable that national Real ID will eventually include high-resolution, facial recognition scans, so detailed that you can be identified on the street in real time by street cameras. The software infrastructure for this has already built into the national Real ID standards.
The Papers Please Identity Project writes:
National Real ID is Unconstitutional...
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Dude, it says on the real ID site that if you don't have one and fly, the TSA agents will merely ask you questions and then you can go through. The other thing, I attempted to get one and I couldn't get access to a facility to give me one. fk em. they make these rules and then snub you. I walked in to the DMV, the dude says why you here, I go real ID, he asks, got an appointment, I said nope. Says, you need one, gives a card to call. I call and no one fking answers. I then go to the web site.ilsos.gov/driversappointments and the site asks if you need an appointment click here. I click it and get, there are no appointments. Everyday I contacted them at 8:00am in the morning, no appointments. zip. Then on the site is where is stated you can still get through with a normal license but expect questions. Well shit, that I can do..
It has been in the works for at least 20 years.
Thus far, the only down side is that you won't be able to fly without it, but I don't fly.
Admit it could be very useful for voter identification purposes.
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I normally respect Del Bigtree, but wonder if we're being scammed about his involvement in this deal.
If I don't want the jab stuck in my arm, no enhanced ID or lack thereof is going to change that.
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It wasn't mandatory for domestic flying or entering federal buildings until Trump said it is starting May 8th.. Just like they were putting the screws on for vaccine passports. Of course that's just the beginning. Sure you can fly with a passport, but why should I need a passport to travel in my own country? Then one fine day they will say Real ID only. It will become your passport. Then you are fucked.
This thing is a very efficient way to track everyone who has one digitally.
Once again the right is cheering on the chipping away of our freedoms.
But it's not fascism folks.
He doesn't, but I must admit this Real ID thing is concerning, because maybe the next Democrat (Marxist) or RINO that gets into power, MIGHT.
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ol, cus that is the only way it can be used. Hilarious.
i find it unconstitutional. why do they need to know anything more than they get with a standard driver's license?
It wasn't mandatory before though. They're trying to enforce it now.
It's pure bullshit, it's intrusive into personal business. It was a 911 mistake like everything else out of that.
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It has been in the works for at least 20 years.
Thus far, the only down side is that you won't be able to fly without it, but I don't fly.
Admit it could be very useful for voter identification purposes.
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One of these Stargate data centers announced by Trump on his first day in office is where all your most intimate data wil live, all linked together by your national REAL ID.
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It would be much harder for the illegals to vote, if they did, right?Of course you do.
That has got to change, Biden neutered the SS number as an ID.They can already do that using your SS number.
That has got to change, Biden neutered the SS number as an ID.