Trump's New York Hush-Money Case Will Start March 25. It's The First Criminal Trials.

[Cellblock2429]

No, stupid, a Banana Republic is one where someone is above the law because of their wealth or status. The point that Trump CAN be made to answer before the law is a matter of rule of law.

Actuallly, Trump is a threat to American Democracy, that's the problem. This is why he needs to be dealt with so harshly.

Sadly, we are finding out once more that our system has no real mechanism for dealing with a criminal president. Nixon only stopped himself, and Clinton flipped the country the bird.

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/---/ The only threat to democracy are the democRATs conducting this kangaroo court.

 

[JoeB131]

/---/ The only threat to democracy are the democRATs conducting this kangaroo court.

The president should be held to the same laws as the rest of us. If they were making up a law just to get Trump (which wouldn't be a bad idea, actually), you might have a point. But, um, no...

Survey of Past New York Felony Prosecutions for Falsifying Business Records

A survey of years of New York criminal cases, which shows that the prosecution of falsifying business records in first degree is common.

www.justsecurity.org

A core crime that the Manhattan District Attorney will likely include in an indictment of former President Donald Trump is “falsifying business records in the first degree,” a felony under New York State law (N.Y. Penal Code § 175.10). Prosecutors and indeed all of us are compelled by the rule of law to consider how such a charge compares to past prosecutions. Are like cases being treated alike?

Here it appears they are. Prosecution of falsifying business records in the first degree is commonplace and has been used by New York district attorneys’ offices to hold to account a breadth of criminal behavior from the more petty and simple to the more serious and highly organized. We reach this conclusion after surveying the past decade and a half of criminal cases across all the New York district attorneys’ offices.

The Table below provides full details of many examples of cases we identified in the survey. A sample of representative precedents includes:

• The People of the State of New York v. Josue Aguilar Dubon, AKA Saady Dubon, AKA Alejandro Ortiz (October 2022) — Bronx business owner indicted for failing to report over $1 million in income, avoiding paying $60,000 in taxes.
• The People of the State of New York v. Scott Kirtland (February 2022) — Insurance broker indicted for allegedly creating/filing fraudulent certificates of liability insurance to further scheme to defraud.
• The People of the State of New York v. James Garner (November 2021) — Mental health therapy aide indicted for allegedly defrauding over $35,000 in workers’ compensation benefits.
• The People of the State of New York v. Jose Palmer (November 2016) — Pleaded guilty to petit larceny for unemployment benefits fraud of over $3,000, having initially been indicted for grand larceny and falsifying business records in the first degree.
• The People of the State of New York v. Jason Holley (November 2016) — Convicted by jury of falsifying business records in the first degree but acquitted of the predicate crime, insurance fraud.
• The People of the State of New York v. Christina Murray (May 2015) & People v. Terrel Murray (May 2014) — Married couple convicted of house fire insurance claim, attempting to recover the cash value of various items of property that were ostensibly lost in the fire.
• The People of the State of New York v. Barbara A. Freeland (June 2013) — Convicted for falsely claiming on a food stamps application that a young adult lived with her.
• The People of the State of New York v. Maria F. Ramirez (August 2010) — Convicted for returning unpurchased items to a store in exchange for store credit, thus causing a false entry in a business record of an enterprise, and using the store credit to purchase additional items one day.

 

[kyzr]

1. Hur investigated and found no criminal intent.
2. No proof influence was sold.
3. Hunter paid his taxes and a penalty.
4. The laptop is Russian Disinformation.

1. Biden stole classified docs. He should have been indicted but wasn't, because he's to old to stand trial, there is no "intent" escape clause.

2. Biden got Shokin fired for investigating Hunter's cash cow Burisma. Then there are the shell companies and the bank reported suspicious money transfers to family members. The evidence is there, follow the money.


3. Hunter most severe tax crimes were let expire.

MSN

4. The laptop is REAL, so says the Biden DOJ.

MSN

 

[kyzr]

Does Biden run the “Deep State” or is it Obama?
I hear it might be Soros or maybe AOC pulling strings

Actually there is no one pulling strings, except to the extent of stating democrat objectives.
The deep state is just a collection of lifelong federal workers who subscribe to the democrat party objectives and oppose GOP policies. Look at the 51 traitors who followed Blinken to say that Hunter's laptop was Russian disinformation. Election interference but not prosecuted.

 

[JoeB131]

1. Biden stole classified docs. He should have been indicted but wasn't, because he's to old to stand trial, there is no "intent" escape clause.

Well, no, that was a Republican hack taking a cheap shot because he couldn't make his case.

2. Biden got Shokin fired for investigating Hunter's cash cow Burisma. Then there are the shell companies and the bank reported suspicious money transfers to family members. The evidence is there, follow the money.

Except everyone wanted Shokin fired, and he was fired by the Rada, not Biden.

3. Hunter most severe tax crimes were let expire.

Gee, that sounds like pretty high level of incompetence by the Trump DOJ.

4. The laptop is REAL, so says the Biden DOJ.

Really, is there a bill of sale showing he paid for it?

 

[Hollie]

Well, no, that was a Republican hack taking a cheap shot because he couldn't make his case.


Except everyone wanted Shokin fired, and he was fired by the Rada, not Biden.


Gee, that sounds like pretty high level of incompetence by the Trump DOJ.


Really, is there a bill of sale showing he paid for it?

You don't understand how really, really desperate you appear with these over the top conspiracy theories.

 

[kyzr]

Well, no, that was a Republican hack taking a cheap shot because he couldn't make his case.
Except everyone wanted Shokin fired, and he was fired by the Rada, not Biden.
Gee, that sounds like pretty high level of incompetence by the Trump DOJ.
Really, is there a bill of sale showing he paid for it?

1. Hur had Biden dead to rights, but let him off because of his age, senility, and incompetence to stand trial. If we hear the Hur-Biden interview you'd see more clearly how confused Biden is w/o a teleprompter.

2. No one in the Obama admin wanted Shokin fired, Ukraine only got the money because Shokin was cleaning up the corruption.

3. The deep state protects democrats.

4. The Biden DOJ said it is Hunter's laptop, duh. Read the link again.

 

[Doc7505]

No, stupid, a Banana Republic is one where someone is above the law because of their wealth or status. The point that Trump CAN be made to answer before the law is a matter of rule of law.

Actuallly, Trump is a threat to American Democracy, that's the problem. This is why he needs to be dealt with so harshly.

Sadly, we are finding out once more that our system has no real mechanism for dealing with a criminal president. Nixon only stopped himself, and Clinton flipped the country the bird.

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Isn't that happening with Hunter Biden's laptop, gun violations and Ashley's private diary about Daddy Biden taking warm showers with her.....
Then there's Biden's 50 years of stealing and holding Top Secret documents he was not supposed to have.
Talk about two systems of Just-Us.

 

[JoeB131]

1. Hur had Biden dead to rights, but let him off because of his age, senility, and incompetence to stand trial. If we hear the Hur-Biden interview you'd see more clearly how confused Biden is w/o a teleprompter.

Except in the transcript, Biden is perfectly clear when his son died, and Hur even praises him for his memory.

2. No one in the Obama admin wanted Shokin fired, Ukraine only got the money because Shokin was cleaning up the corruption.

Uh, actually, eveyrone wanted him fired. Obama, the IMF, the EU, and the Ukrainian Rada. After it was discovered his deputies were taking massive bribes, they had no confidence in him.

3. The deep state protects democrats.

Trump doesn't sound like a good manager if his people can't do what they are told

4. The Biden DOJ said it is Hunter's laptop, duh. Read the link again.

do they have a receipt where he bought it. If they thought it was legit, why are they citing data from the server and not the laptop?

 

[JoeB131]

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Isn't that happening with Hunter Biden's laptop, gun violations and Ashley's private diary about Daddy Biden taking warm showers with her.....

The diary is fake
the laptop is fake.
The gun violation is a nothingburger.

 

[kyzr]

Except in the transcript, Biden is perfectly clear when his son died, and Hur even praises him for his memory.

Uh, actually, everyone wanted him fired. Obama, the IMF, the EU, and the Ukrainian Rada. After it was discovered his deputies were taking massive bribes, they had no confidence in him.

Trump doesn't sound like a good manager if his people can't do what they are told

do they have a receipt where he bought it. If they thought it was legit, why are they citing data from the server and not the laptop?

1. Hur said he had major memory problems.
2. No one in the Obama admin wanted Shokin fired.
3. Its very hard to make entrenched fuck-ups like Fau-Chi follow orders. Obama told him to not do gain-of-function research, so Fau-Chi hired the Wuhan Lab to do it as a subcontract. We need faster hiring/firing of government workers, like the IRS' Lois Lerner.
4. The Biden DOJ said its Hunter's fucking laptop, duh.

 

[JoeB131]

1. Hur said he had major memory problems.

Hur said a lot of shit... but when Congress questioned him, he looked like a kid who had forgotten to do his homework.

2. No one in the Obama admin wanted Shokin fired.

Sure he did.

So did- wait for it- Republicans in Congress.

This 2016 letter proves that GOP attacks on Biden over Ukraine are nonsense

It wasn’t just Biden who wanted reform in the Ukrainian prosecutor’s office. Republican senators did, too.

www.vox.com

The reality is that the Obama administration — as well as many other Western European officials — wanted the prosecutor, a man named Viktor Shokin, removed because he was believed to be trying to stymie anti-corruption efforts in Ukraine. In other words, if anything, Biden’s efforts could have put his son in more legal jeopardy, not less.

Yet the conspiracy theory persists and has been repeated by Trump’s Republican allies on Fox News and in Congress. But it turns out Republicans have failed to mention one important thing: At least three GOP senators at the time also wanted that Ukrainian prosecutor fired.

3. Its very hard to make entrenched fuck-ups like Fau-Chi follow orders. Obama told him to not do gain-of-function research, so Fau-Chi hired the Wuhan Lab to do it as a subcontract. We need faster hiring/firing of government workers, like the IRS' Lois Lerner.

Don't have time for whacky conspiracy theories.

4. The Biden DOJ said its Hunter's fucking laptop, duh.

Then why aren't they entering it as evidence?

We know that Smirnov, the chief witness against Hunter, is a Russian plant.

 

[Hollie]

Hur said a lot of shit... but when Congress questioned him, he looked like a kid who had forgotten to do his homework.



Sure he did.

So did- wait for it- Republicans in Congress.

This 2016 letter proves that GOP attacks on Biden over Ukraine are nonsense

It wasn’t just Biden who wanted reform in the Ukrainian prosecutor’s office. Republican senators did, too.

www.vox.com

The reality is that the Obama administration — as well as many other Western European officials — wanted the prosecutor, a man named Viktor Shokin, removed because he was believed to be trying to stymie anti-corruption efforts in Ukraine. In other words, if anything, Biden’s efforts could have put his son in more legal jeopardy, not less.

Yet the conspiracy theory persists and has been repeated by Trump’s Republican allies on Fox News and in Congress. But it turns out Republicans have failed to mention one important thing: At least three GOP senators at the time also wanted that Ukrainian prosecutor fired.



Don't have time for whacky conspiracy theories.


Then why aren't they entering it as evidence?

We know that Smirnov, the chief witness against Hunter, is a Russian plant.

Cutting and pasting an opinion piece from a leftist tabloid serves what purpose?

 

[Winco]

2. Biden got Shokin fired for investigating Hunter's cash cow Burisma.

LIES......rudy and trump made up a story, got Jon Solomon to tell the story, and the ONLY other person that confirms this LIE is Shokin............ Shokin was NOT investigating corruption, including Burisma.

This has been proven, and your cute little edited video proves NOTHING.

 

[Billiejeens]

This is the weakest case against Trump.... the rest are falling apart....

They definitely did not want this one to go first.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

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Trump’s New York Hush Money Case Is ‘Absurd’​

Jonathan Turley: Trump's New York Hush Money Case Is 'Absurd'

Fox News legal analyst Jonathan Turley said Monday on Fox News Channel's "America's Newsroom" that former President Donald Trump's New York trial for allegedly falsifying business records related to payments to porn star Stormy Daniel is "absurd." | Clips

www.breitbart.com

15 Apr 2024 ~~ By Pam Key

Fox News legal analyst Jonathan Turley said Monday on Fox News Channel’s “America’s Newsroom” that former President Donald Trump’s New York trial for allegedly falsifying business records related to payments to porn star Stormy Daniel is “absurd.”
Host Dana Perino said, “Jonathan, you wrote about Cicero saying ‘the more laws, the less justice,’ and that you seem the same here. How so?”
Turley said, “Well, the more cases against Trump, the less justice we receive as a people. You know, the opponents of Trump would have been far better off with just one case, the Mar-a-Lago case. That’s based on real law, real precedent, and one can disagree with the interpretations. But it’s not a reach in the sense of this case.”
He continued, “This case is, creating something, it’s creating a criminal code just for Trump. You know, you have a misdemeanor whose time has expired, the statute limitations ran out, and it was revived in this rather curious way.


Commentary:
As BAD as Democrats and the "Deep State" are trying to keep him out of the WH, there must be devastating evidence against many!!! They are absolutely and positively unleashed.
It’s embarrassing, this one man can pose that much of a threat to bureaucracy and Neo-Marism.
Jonathan Turley is correct. When you reinterpret laws to target your political opponents the public loses respect for the rule of law. It’s dangerous territory when people stop believing in the rule of law, you end up with a non-functional banana republic where the legal system is just a pawn to be wielded against people you don’t like, or are a threat to you instead of a legitimate deterrent to criminal activities.

Haha, you're so gullible.

Ask yourself why trump's lawyers haven't managed a successful dismissal motion, then. Or any good defense. But Turley the Trump Cultist has it all figured out.

Uh huh.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

/---/ Trump's home state is Florida, dummy.

Which is why he gets to stand trial for these crimes from 2017.

Bwahahahaha

 

[kyzr]

Hur said a lot of shit... but when Congress questioned him, he looked like a kid who had forgotten to do his homework.

Sure he did. So did- wait for it- Republicans in Congress. The reality is that the Obama administration — as well as many other Western European officials — wanted the prosecutor, a man named Viktor Shokin, removed because he was believed to be trying to stymie anti-corruption efforts in Ukraine. In other words, if anything, Biden’s efforts could have put his son in more legal jeopardy, not less.
Yet the conspiracy theory persists and has been repeated by Trump’s Republican allies on Fox News and in Congress. But it turns out Republicans have failed to mention one important thing: At least three GOP senators at the time also wanted that Ukrainian prosecutor fired.

Don't have time for whacky conspiracy theories.

Then why aren't they entering it as evidence? We know that Smirnov, the chief witness against Hunter, is a Russian plant.

1. Hur made democrats look silly. The dems disagreed with his conclusion, that Biden is too senile to stand trial. The dems kept trying to say "no crime", Hur kept saying "yes crime", but Biden is incompetent. I saw the hearing. Hur did fine.

2. Team Obama loved Shokin. Link to three GOP senators who did not like Shokin.

Team Obama loved Victor Shokin, so why did Joe Biden get him fired?

Joe Biden bragged of having Ukraine prosecutor Victor Shokin fired for corruption. Now it looks certain he had him fired to help Hunter Biden.

nypost.com

"We have been impressed with the ambitious reform and anti-corruption agenda of your government,” gushed the State Department’s Ukraine point person Victoria Nuland to Shokin in summer 2015.
“Ukraine has made sufficient progress on its reform agenda to justify a third guarantee” of aid money, noted another federal functionary that October.

3. Fau-Chi and Lois Lerner are prime examples of the "deep state".

4. The corrupt Biden DOJ ignores evidence against anyone named Biden.

 

[kyzr]

LIES......rudy and trump made up a story, got Jon Solomon to tell the story, and the ONLY other person that confirms this LIE is Shokin............ Shokin was NOT investigating corruption, including Burisma.
This has been proven, and your cute little edited video proves NOTHING.

You typing lies proves nothing too.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

/----/ “I would hope Trump’s lawyers bring a mandamus right now, at the very least, let Trump out of the courtroom, let him campaign,” Alan Dershowitz told Fox Business host Larry Kudlow. “If he makes a decision that he would like to waive the right to be there, there is nothing in the Constitution which gives the prosecution the right to keep him there. It is only a defendant’s right.”

Haha, dershowitz knows he is full of shit. He knows his audience is easily fooled.

No, you don't get out of attending your criminal trial just because you decided to run for office.