Trump's 4% GDP growth promise update

[Correll]

He never uses the word hyperbole when he lies, only when he gets caught lying. He expects his "hyperbole" to be believed enough to close the "deal."

You are the one that quoted him, from his book, saying that he uses hyperbole.


Of course when one is exaggerating, one does not use the word exaggerate.


That was such a weak attack, that I find it hard to credit that you seriously believe what you just posted.

Right and I also pointed out that it was his strategy to close the deal, so it was meant to be believed the way Tramp uses it as he explains in his book.

That it was to be used to close the deal, does not imply that it was meant to be believed, especially if you quoted him correctly and he used the word "hyperbole".

Of course his lies are meant to be believed, he is using then t sell his deal. His calling them "creative hyperbole" is just a rationalization of his lies for SUCKERS like you.

Evidently the moron in our WH doesn't realize how much pain China can take Short term to them is 100 years Trump doesn't make a deal say HELLO to a Dem in our WH

What "pain"? I thought trade balance didn't matter?

Are you implying that China is massively benefiting from it's trade surplus with US?

 

[Correll]

You are the one that quoted him, from his book, saying that he uses hyperbole.


Of course when one is exaggerating, one does not use the word exaggerate.


That was such a weak attack, that I find it hard to credit that you seriously believe what you just posted.

Right and I also pointed out that it was his strategy to close the deal, so it was meant to be believed the way Tramp uses it as he explains in his book.

That it was to be used to close the deal, does not imply that it was meant to be believed, especially if you quoted him correctly and he used the word "hyperbole".

Of course his lies are meant to be believed, he is using then t sell his deal. His calling them "creative hyperbole" is just a rationalization of his lies for SUCKERS like you.

Evidently the moron in our WH doesn't realize how much pain China can take Short term to them is 100 years Trump doesn't make a deal say HELLO to a Dem in our WH

Forcing US mftrs (sort of US) to relocate supply chains outside of Jina can cause them pain, but Apple isn't moving, nor are any mftrs who hope to sell INSIDE Jina.

Trump needed a coalition and he went out of his way to tell the EU to fock itself.

Remind me, what was your plan again?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Got it. It is either the truth or a lie. Black or white. In your world.

With an argument like that then I guess there is no such thing as a lie.

Correct. Obama wasn't lying when he said, "if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor." That was hyperbole.

Bush wasn't lying when he said Iraq was stockpiling WMD, that was hyperbole too.

Clinton wasn't lying when he said, "I did not have sex with that woman." Hyperbole.

Reagan wasn't lying when he said the U.S. didn't trade arms for hostages. Hyperbole.

1. Obama meant to be believed, and that was a lie.

2. Bush believed it, and thus that was not a lie, that was a mistake.

3. Bill Clinton meant to be believed, thus it was a lie.

4. Reagan knew what he was saying was not true, thus that was a lie.


Your pretense that this is unreasonable, is you being an ass and a liar.

Trump means to be believed and you dismiss it all as hyperbole, why does he always get a free pass from you?

He does not. YOu are purposefully looking for hyperbole.

Dragonlady posted several that I immediately agreed were lies.

You on the other hand, managed to even "accidentally" posting any actual lies, which calls into question, either your pretense of confusion, or how much he actually lies, relative to normal politicians.

So, what is this one from him...I can't wait to see your answer!

The things we’re doing in our country today, there’s never been anything like it. We will be ending the AIDS epidemic shortly in America, and curing childhood cancer very shortly.”

 

[Correll]

With an argument like that then I guess there is no such thing as a lie.

Correct. Obama wasn't lying when he said, "if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor." That was hyperbole.

Bush wasn't lying when he said Iraq was stockpiling WMD, that was hyperbole too.

Clinton wasn't lying when he said, "I did not have sex with that woman." Hyperbole.

Reagan wasn't lying when he said the U.S. didn't trade arms for hostages. Hyperbole.

1. Obama meant to be believed, and that was a lie.

2. Bush believed it, and thus that was not a lie, that was a mistake.

3. Bill Clinton meant to be believed, thus it was a lie.

4. Reagan knew what he was saying was not true, thus that was a lie.


Your pretense that this is unreasonable, is you being an ass and a liar.

Trump means to be believed and you dismiss it all as hyperbole, why does he always get a free pass from you?

He does not. YOu are purposefully looking for hyperbole.

Dragonlady posted several that I immediately agreed were lies.

You on the other hand, managed to even "accidentally" posting any actual lies, which calls into question, either your pretense of confusion, or how much he actually lies, relative to normal politicians.

So, what is this one from him...I can't wait to see your answer!

The things we’re doing in our country today, there’s never been anything like it. We will be ending the AIDS epidemic shortly in America, and curing childhood cancer very shortly.”

Meaningless feel good hyperbole, of a very common type.


Why do you care about that? What is the point, if there was intent to deceive?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Meaningless feel good hyperbole, of a very common type.


Why do you care about that? What is the point, if there was intent to deceive?

Thank you! You once again prove me to be correct about you!

I care about it because it highlights Trump's basic lack of intelligence and knowledge.

 

[edward37]

Meaningless feel good hyperbole, of a very common type.


Why do you care about that? What is the point, if there was intent to deceive?

Thank you! You once again prove me to be correct about you!

I care about it because it highlights Trump's basic lack of intelligence and knowledge.

And his management skills are greatly in question too Seems he has problems hiring good people Only hires those who will kiss his butt

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Meaningless feel good hyperbole, of a very common type.


Why do you care about that? What is the point, if there was intent to deceive?

Thank you! You once again prove me to be correct about you!

I care about it because it highlights Trump's basic lack of intelligence and knowledge.

And his management skills are greatly in question too Seems he has problems hiring good people Only hires those who will kiss his butt

Did you see his press conference where he spent 5 minutes whining about the press being dishonest and then spent another 10 minutes telling every that he uses the press to Vet his nominees instead of doing it himself.

What a joke the man is

 

[edthecynic]

With an argument like that then I guess there is no such thing as a lie.

Correct. Obama wasn't lying when he said, "if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor." That was hyperbole.

Bush wasn't lying when he said Iraq was stockpiling WMD, that was hyperbole too.

Clinton wasn't lying when he said, "I did not have sex with that woman." Hyperbole.

Reagan wasn't lying when he said the U.S. didn't trade arms for hostages. Hyperbole.

1. Obama meant to be believed, and that was a lie.

2. Bush believed it, and thus that was not a lie, that was a mistake.

3. Bill Clinton meant to be believed, thus it was a lie.

4. Reagan knew what he was saying was not true, thus that was a lie.


Your pretense that this is unreasonable, is you being an ass and a liar.

Trump means to be believed and you dismiss it all as hyperbole, why does he always get a free pass from you?

He does not. YOu are purposefully looking for hyperbole.

Dragonlady posted several that I immediately agreed were lies.

You on the other hand, managed to even "accidentally" posting any actual lies, which calls into question, either your pretense of confusion, or how much he actually lies, relative to normal politicians.

So, what is this one from him...I can't wait to see your answer!

The things we’re doing in our country today, there’s never been anything like it. We will be ending the AIDS epidemic shortly in America, and curing childhood cancer very shortly.”

Plagiarism!
He stole that from Biden.

 

[Correll]

Meaningless feel good hyperbole, of a very common type.


Why do you care about that? What is the point, if there was intent to deceive?

Thank you! You once again prove me to be correct about you!

I care about it because it highlights Trump's basic lack of intelligence and knowledge.

Nope. YOu are purposefully looking for examples of hyperbole, to give you an excuse to spout off.

Dragon lady found several examples of actual lies, her first try, with no problem.


You're silly.


Trump's style, while not to your liking, obviously has been effective. That you don't like it, doesn't mean he isn't smart.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Nope. YOu are purposefully looking for examples of hyperbole, to give you an excuse to spout off.

Dragon lady found several examples of actual lies, her first try, with no problem.


You're silly.


Trump's style, while not to your liking, obviously has been effective. That you don't like it, doesn't mean he isn't smart.

I have not given you one single example of hyperbole.

you incorrectly call them that either because you are a dishonest Trump worshiper or because you are too ignorant to know what hyperbole is.

 

[Correll]

Nope. YOu are purposefully looking for examples of hyperbole, to give you an excuse to spout off.

Dragon lady found several examples of actual lies, her first try, with no problem.


You're silly.


Trump's style, while not to your liking, obviously has been effective. That you don't like it, doesn't mean he isn't smart.

I have not given you one single example of hyperbole.

you incorrectly call them that either because you are a dishonest Trump worshiper or because you are too ignorant to know what hyperbole is.

So, your entire position is based on your premise, that I "Worship" Trump and see all of his lies as "hyperbole",


yet, I twice reference another poster who easily and quickly found lies from Trump that I readily admitted were lies.


And you have no curiosity about that at all?


You are being a dishonest Troll.


Knock that shit off. YOu should be embarrassed.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Nope. YOu are purposefully looking for examples of hyperbole, to give you an excuse to spout off.

Dragon lady found several examples of actual lies, her first try, with no problem.


You're silly.


Trump's style, while not to your liking, obviously has been effective. That you don't like it, doesn't mean he isn't smart.

I have not given you one single example of hyperbole.

you incorrectly call them that either because you are a dishonest Trump worshiper or because you are too ignorant to know what hyperbole is.

So, your entire position is based on your premise, that I "Worship" Trump and see all of his lies as "hyperbole",


yet, I twice reference another poster who easily and quickly found lies from Trump that I readily admitted were lies.


And you have no curiosity about that at all?


You are being a dishonest Troll.


Knock that shit off. YOu should be embarrassed.

I did not see you agree that anything was a lie. What post was that in?

 

[Correll]

Nope. YOu are purposefully looking for examples of hyperbole, to give you an excuse to spout off.

Dragon lady found several examples of actual lies, her first try, with no problem.


You're silly.


Trump's style, while not to your liking, obviously has been effective. That you don't like it, doesn't mean he isn't smart.

I have not given you one single example of hyperbole.

you incorrectly call them that either because you are a dishonest Trump worshiper or because you are too ignorant to know what hyperbole is.

So, your entire position is based on your premise, that I "Worship" Trump and see all of his lies as "hyperbole",


yet, I twice reference another poster who easily and quickly found lies from Trump that I readily admitted were lies.


And you have no curiosity about that at all?


You are being a dishonest Troll.


Knock that shit off. YOu should be embarrassed.

I did not see you agree that anything was a lie. What post was that in?

She presented her finds, in 463 and I agreed in 481. I then referenced it twice with you in other posts, and you were utterly oblivious to information that didn't fit your preconceptions.

 

[Terri4Trump]

Donald Trump promised 4.0% GDP growth a year.

Updated - Trump-O-Meter: Grow the economy by 4 percent a year

In 2018, he fell short with 3.2% growth.

It's still early in 2019, so all we have is estimates of first quarter growth. In order for the economy to stay on track to 4% growth, Q1 must be at least /approximately 4%.


So far things don't look good at all. Economist Diane Swonk said yesterday that Q1 growth could be 1.5%:

GDP growth for the first quarter could slip below 1-1/2% if shutdown endures through the end of the week.

Trump's economy is booming—repealing tariffs will boost it even more
Trump's economy is booming—repealing tariffs will boost it even more
08/04/19 07:00 AM EDT

You have probably heard the saying “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.”
That saying could be applied to our economy right now. In this regard, it seems that President Trump can do almost no wrong, with the Dow and S&P 500 hitting all-time highs in July, job growth continuing to exceed expectations, and unemployment at a 50-year low.
The catalyst for this booming economy can be found in the president’s regulation slashing early in his presidency and his signing of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, which put more money back in the hands of American companies and families........

It looks like Trump wildly exaggerated the results he could achieve.

No it doesn't you liar.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Nope. YOu are purposefully looking for examples of hyperbole, to give you an excuse to spout off.

Dragon lady found several examples of actual lies, her first try, with no problem.


You're silly.


Trump's style, while not to your liking, obviously has been effective. That you don't like it, doesn't mean he isn't smart.

I have not given you one single example of hyperbole.

you incorrectly call them that either because you are a dishonest Trump worshiper or because you are too ignorant to know what hyperbole is.

So, your entire position is based on your premise, that I "Worship" Trump and see all of his lies as "hyperbole",


yet, I twice reference another poster who easily and quickly found lies from Trump that I readily admitted were lies.


And you have no curiosity about that at all?


You are being a dishonest Troll.


Knock that shit off. YOu should be embarrassed.

I did not see you agree that anything was a lie. What post was that in?

She presented her finds, in 463 and I agreed in 481. I then referenced it twice with you in other posts, and you were utterly oblivious to information that didn't fit your preconceptions.

I did not realize that was you agree it it was a lie, but I suppose you could spin it that way.

So, what is the difference between Trump saying that the US does not pay the tariffs and Trump saying we will cure childhood cancer soon?

 

[Correll]

Nope. YOu are purposefully looking for examples of hyperbole, to give you an excuse to spout off.

Dragon lady found several examples of actual lies, her first try, with no problem.


You're silly.


Trump's style, while not to your liking, obviously has been effective. That you don't like it, doesn't mean he isn't smart.

I have not given you one single example of hyperbole.

you incorrectly call them that either because you are a dishonest Trump worshiper or because you are too ignorant to know what hyperbole is.

So, your entire position is based on your premise, that I "Worship" Trump and see all of his lies as "hyperbole",


yet, I twice reference another poster who easily and quickly found lies from Trump that I readily admitted were lies.


And you have no curiosity about that at all?


You are being a dishonest Troll.


Knock that shit off. YOu should be embarrassed.

I did not see you agree that anything was a lie. What post was that in?

She presented her finds, in 463 and I agreed in 481. I then referenced it twice with you in other posts, and you were utterly oblivious to information that didn't fit your preconceptions.

I did not realize that was you agree it it was a lie, but I suppose you could spin it that way.

So, what is the difference between Trump saying that the US does not pay the tariffs and Trump saying we will cure childhood cancer soon?

Intent.


Trump's intent with his comment on the tariffs, is to credibly dodge the negative side of his policy, to his benefit, politically. His claim is credible, because tariffs are pretty obscure and the average person might very well believe the bill is paid by the exporter. So, it is a credible claim, not just an exaggeration.


Trump's intent with saying that we "will cure childhood cancer" is not meant to be taken seriously. Anyone with even a layman's knowledge of the subject, knows that while advances are always being make, that claiming an universal cure is colos is silly. And even if a few people DO managed to convince themselves that a real "cure" is near term, that does not really reflect that much on Trump, nor benefit him significantly.


It is hard for me to credit that you do not know this, Gator.


You seem to me, to have put enormous effort into unlearning something important, to give yourself an excuse for recreational outrage over this non issue.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

I have not given you one single example of hyperbole.

you incorrectly call them that either because you are a dishonest Trump worshiper or because you are too ignorant to know what hyperbole is.

So, your entire position is based on your premise, that I "Worship" Trump and see all of his lies as "hyperbole",


yet, I twice reference another poster who easily and quickly found lies from Trump that I readily admitted were lies.


And you have no curiosity about that at all?


You are being a dishonest Troll.


Knock that shit off. YOu should be embarrassed.

I did not see you agree that anything was a lie. What post was that in?

She presented her finds, in 463 and I agreed in 481. I then referenced it twice with you in other posts, and you were utterly oblivious to information that didn't fit your preconceptions.

I did not realize that was you agree it it was a lie, but I suppose you could spin it that way.

So, what is the difference between Trump saying that the US does not pay the tariffs and Trump saying we will cure childhood cancer soon?

Intent.


Trump's intent with his comment on the tariffs, is to credibly dodge the negative side of his policy, to his benefit, politically. His claim is credible, because tariffs are pretty obscure and the average person might very well believe the bill is paid by the exporter. So, it is a credible claim, not just an exaggeration.


Trump's intent with saying that we "will cure childhood cancer" is not meant to be taken seriously. Anyone with even a layman's knowledge of the subject, knows that while advances are always being make, that claiming an universal cure is colos is silly. And even if a few people DO managed to convince themselves that a real "cure" is near term, that does not really reflect that much on Trump, nor benefit him significantly.


It is hard for me to credit that you do not know this, Gator.


You seem to me, to have put enormous effort into unlearning something important, to give yourself an excuse for recreational outrage over this non issue.

Why say something that is not meant to be taken seriously at a pep rally? What is the purpose of saying things that are not meant to be taken seriously?

If you significant other told you they love you to the moon and back...would you take them seriously even though they used hyperbole?

 

[Correll]

So, your entire position is based on your premise, that I "Worship" Trump and see all of his lies as "hyperbole",


yet, I twice reference another poster who easily and quickly found lies from Trump that I readily admitted were lies.


And you have no curiosity about that at all?


You are being a dishonest Troll.


Knock that shit off. YOu should be embarrassed.

I did not see you agree that anything was a lie. What post was that in?

She presented her finds, in 463 and I agreed in 481. I then referenced it twice with you in other posts, and you were utterly oblivious to information that didn't fit your preconceptions.

I did not realize that was you agree it it was a lie, but I suppose you could spin it that way.

So, what is the difference between Trump saying that the US does not pay the tariffs and Trump saying we will cure childhood cancer soon?

Intent.


Trump's intent with his comment on the tariffs, is to credibly dodge the negative side of his policy, to his benefit, politically. His claim is credible, because tariffs are pretty obscure and the average person might very well believe the bill is paid by the exporter. So, it is a credible claim, not just an exaggeration.


Trump's intent with saying that we "will cure childhood cancer" is not meant to be taken seriously. Anyone with even a layman's knowledge of the subject, knows that while advances are always being make, that claiming an universal cure is colos is silly. And even if a few people DO managed to convince themselves that a real "cure" is near term, that does not really reflect that much on Trump, nor benefit him significantly.


It is hard for me to credit that you do not know this, Gator.


You seem to me, to have put enormous effort into unlearning something important, to give yourself an excuse for recreational outrage over this non issue.

Why say something that is not meant to be taken seriously at a pep rally? What is the purpose of saying things that are not meant to be taken seriously?

If you significant other told you they love you to the moon and back...would you take them seriously even though they used hyperbole?

I would take her intent seriously, not literally.


It is hard for me to credit that you don't know this, like from when you were a child.

 

[edthecynic]

Intent.


Trump's intent with his comment on the tariffs, is to credibly dodge the negative side of his policy, to his benefit, politically. His claim is credible, because tariffs are pretty obscure and the average person might very well believe the bill is paid by the exporter. So, it is a credible claim, not just an exaggeration.

So his out and out premeditated lie, remember he was corrected on his lie in press questioning, is "credible" because according to you the "average American" is STUPID enough to believe him.

How about this, HYPERBOLA obviously? Tramp doesn't believe it and he expects no one to believe it either.

 

[Correll]

Intent.


Trump's intent with his comment on the tariffs, is to credibly dodge the negative side of his policy, to his benefit, politically. His claim is credible, because tariffs are pretty obscure and the average person might very well believe the bill is paid by the exporter. So, it is a credible claim, not just an exaggeration.

So his out and out premeditated lie, remember he was corrected on his lie in press questioning, is "credible" because according to you the "average American" is STUPID enough to believe him....

Not being well versed on the intricacies of international trade and tariffs, is not the same as being "stupid".


I don't know what you were tying to pull with THAT lie, claim that that was my meaning, but knock that ******* shit off.