Trump's 4% GDP growth promise update

[Correll]

No, it is not.

Exaggerations, hyperbole, ect, there is a whole host of words, that acknowledge that a lack of literal hard factualness, is not always considered a lie, with intent to deceive.


WHy are you pretending to not know this?

meaningless feel goof fluff has the intent to deceive, that is how it gets people to feel good.

Exaggerations and hyperbole all contain some basis of fact.

When someone says it is "raining cats and dogs", it is in fact raining.

When someone says they are "hungry enough to eat a horse" they are indeed hungry.

This is what Trump is missing from all the things you give him a free pass on.

Your analogy of "raining cats and dogs" is quite on the money. INdeed, it is "Raining" in that significant progress has been, and is being made on child hood cancers, with more and more of them being "cured" and real possibilities of this massively increasing in the relatively near future.


People should feel good about the recent and soon to come advances fighting child hood cancers.

Sure, if you twist "soon" to mean in the next 50 years, if we are lucky.

So, do you think there is a difference between childhood cancer and adult cancer?

Best case scenario could be far sooner than that. I don't believe it myself, but some of the research has some very exciting potential.


And yes, there are differences between childhood and adult cancers. Hell, there are real distinctions between young adult and the more common cancers you get in older people.


I used to work in the field. Not an expert by any means. But not a complete layman either.


Like I said, your analogy was quite on the money.

I have heard promise of the cure for cancers since I was a child, they are all just pipe dreams meant to make people feel better...which makes them dishonest

Dude. Give it up. I made my point. You can see that it is true. Just admit it.


Hyperbole, is not lying. Lying requires intent. Your analogy was great. When some one tells you it is raining cats and dogs, they are not trying to lie to you.


Admitting this, will not require you to support TRump or anything. You just have to work a little bit more, to find your actual reasons for opposing him, instead of the rationalizations the talking heads give you.


Dont' you want to know why you really hate him?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

meaningless feel goof fluff has the intent to deceive, that is how it gets people to feel good.

Exaggerations and hyperbole all contain some basis of fact.

When someone says it is "raining cats and dogs", it is in fact raining.

When someone says they are "hungry enough to eat a horse" they are indeed hungry.

This is what Trump is missing from all the things you give him a free pass on.

Your analogy of "raining cats and dogs" is quite on the money. INdeed, it is "Raining" in that significant progress has been, and is being made on child hood cancers, with more and more of them being "cured" and real possibilities of this massively increasing in the relatively near future.


People should feel good about the recent and soon to come advances fighting child hood cancers.

Sure, if you twist "soon" to mean in the next 50 years, if we are lucky.

So, do you think there is a difference between childhood cancer and adult cancer?

Best case scenario could be far sooner than that. I don't believe it myself, but some of the research has some very exciting potential.


And yes, there are differences between childhood and adult cancers. Hell, there are real distinctions between young adult and the more common cancers you get in older people.


I used to work in the field. Not an expert by any means. But not a complete layman either.


Like I said, your analogy was quite on the money.

I have heard promise of the cure for cancers since I was a child, they are all just pipe dreams meant to make people feel better...which makes them dishonest

Dude. Give it up. I made my point. You can see that it is true. Just admit it.


Hyperbole, is not lying. Lying requires intent. Your analogy was great. When some one tells you it is raining cats and dogs, they are not trying to lie to you.


Admitting this, will not require you to support TRump or anything. You just have to work a little bit more, to find your actual reasons for opposing him, instead of the rationalizations the talking heads give you.


Dont' you want to know why you really hate him?

When you say it is raining cats and dogs you do not expect people to really think there are cats and dogs falling from the sky.

When you say you will cure cancer soon, you expect people to believe you, there is no other reason to say it.

 

[Correll]

What you actually said was it is "CREDIBLE," lies are NOT credible, they are lies.
You are a liar, YOU are not credible.

The best lies are credible.


Do you even remember what point you were trying to make? DId you ever understand it?

No lie is credible.

Perhaps what he was trying to say is that the best lies sound credible.

THe more credible the lie, the better it is. Obviously.


It is insane that either of you are resistant to that idea.


A "lie" told that is completely NOT credible, to the point that the person telling it, does not expect it to be believed,


is not an actual lie.


A lie requires the INTENT TO DECEIVE.


Hence if you tell someone it is "raining cats and dogs", it is not credible that cats and dogs are literally falling from the sky, so you are not LYING.



You people are so twisted up with your hate, that you are forgetting the meanings of words.

And when you tell people you will cure cancer soon you are attempting to deceive, thus it is a lie.

Show me someone that believed that his statement meant that we will be curing all childhood cancer, literally, "very soon".


Or better yet, show me someone happy, because they just found out, from the President, that child hood cancer would be cured "Very soon".

No one was deceived, because all reasonable people, know to ignore that type of feel good glad handling.

Trump knows that too. He did not, expect anyone to take those words seriously, any more than you would expect someone to run out into the rain, to help the poor doggies and cats that had fallen from a great height.

You are being ridiculous.

 

[Correll]

Your analogy of "raining cats and dogs" is quite on the money. INdeed, it is "Raining" in that significant progress has been, and is being made on child hood cancers, with more and more of them being "cured" and real possibilities of this massively increasing in the relatively near future.


People should feel good about the recent and soon to come advances fighting child hood cancers.

Sure, if you twist "soon" to mean in the next 50 years, if we are lucky.

So, do you think there is a difference between childhood cancer and adult cancer?

Best case scenario could be far sooner than that. I don't believe it myself, but some of the research has some very exciting potential.


And yes, there are differences between childhood and adult cancers. Hell, there are real distinctions between young adult and the more common cancers you get in older people.


I used to work in the field. Not an expert by any means. But not a complete layman either.


Like I said, your analogy was quite on the money.

I have heard promise of the cure for cancers since I was a child, they are all just pipe dreams meant to make people feel better...which makes them dishonest

Dude. Give it up. I made my point. You can see that it is true. Just admit it.


Hyperbole, is not lying. Lying requires intent. Your analogy was great. When some one tells you it is raining cats and dogs, they are not trying to lie to you.


Admitting this, will not require you to support TRump or anything. You just have to work a little bit more, to find your actual reasons for opposing him, instead of the rationalizations the talking heads give you.


Dont' you want to know why you really hate him?

You

When you say it is raining cats and dogs you do not expect people to really think there are cats and dogs falling from the sky.

When you say you will cure cancer soon, you expect people to believe you, there is no other reason to say it.

Sure there is. Standard political PR filler, that no one takes seriously. Trump's back ground is salesman ship and tv leading into politics.


YOu know this. YOu just can't give up any chance to get a dig in against your hated enemy.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Sure, if you twist "soon" to mean in the next 50 years, if we are lucky.

So, do you think there is a difference between childhood cancer and adult cancer?

Best case scenario could be far sooner than that. I don't believe it myself, but some of the research has some very exciting potential.


And yes, there are differences between childhood and adult cancers. Hell, there are real distinctions between young adult and the more common cancers you get in older people.


I used to work in the field. Not an expert by any means. But not a complete layman either.


Like I said, your analogy was quite on the money.

I have heard promise of the cure for cancers since I was a child, they are all just pipe dreams meant to make people feel better...which makes them dishonest

Dude. Give it up. I made my point. You can see that it is true. Just admit it.


Hyperbole, is not lying. Lying requires intent. Your analogy was great. When some one tells you it is raining cats and dogs, they are not trying to lie to you.


Admitting this, will not require you to support TRump or anything. You just have to work a little bit more, to find your actual reasons for opposing him, instead of the rationalizations the talking heads give you.


Dont' you want to know why you really hate him?

You

When you say it is raining cats and dogs you do not expect people to really think there are cats and dogs falling from the sky.

When you say you will cure cancer soon, you expect people to believe you, there is no other reason to say it.

Sure there is. Standard political PR filler, that no one takes seriously. Trump's back ground is salesman ship and tv leading into politics.


YOu know this. YOu just can't give up any chance to get a dig in against your hated enemy.

You are like the guy that gives the sleazy used car salesman a pass for being dishonest because they are just trying to make a living.

I will say I have enjoyed your feeble attempts to make this about me and my “hate”. Hate takes work and effort, neither of which Trump earns.

 

[Correll]

Best case scenario could be far sooner than that. I don't believe it myself, but some of the research has some very exciting potential.


And yes, there are differences between childhood and adult cancers. Hell, there are real distinctions between young adult and the more common cancers you get in older people.


I used to work in the field. Not an expert by any means. But not a complete layman either.


Like I said, your analogy was quite on the money.

I have heard promise of the cure for cancers since I was a child, they are all just pipe dreams meant to make people feel better...which makes them dishonest

Dude. Give it up. I made my point. You can see that it is true. Just admit it.


Hyperbole, is not lying. Lying requires intent. Your analogy was great. When some one tells you it is raining cats and dogs, they are not trying to lie to you.


Admitting this, will not require you to support TRump or anything. You just have to work a little bit more, to find your actual reasons for opposing him, instead of the rationalizations the talking heads give you.


Dont' you want to know why you really hate him?

You

When you say it is raining cats and dogs you do not expect people to really think there are cats and dogs falling from the sky.

When you say you will cure cancer soon, you expect people to believe you, there is no other reason to say it.

Sure there is. Standard political PR filler, that no one takes seriously. Trump's back ground is salesman ship and tv leading into politics.


YOu know this. YOu just can't give up any chance to get a dig in against your hated enemy.

You are like the guy that gives the sleazy used car salesman a pass for being dishonest because they are just trying to make a living.

I will say I have enjoyed your feeble attempts to make this about me and my “hate”. Hate takes work and effort, neither of which Trump earns.

Nope. Doesn't address my position at all.

 

[danielpalos]

We should have had, more artistic deal making.

 

[edthecynic]

Just because YOU are too STUPID to understand tariffs, does not mean the average American is as STUPID as you! And your meaning is exactly that, average Americans are as STUPID as you.

And that doesn't change the fact that Tramp knew he was lying to "dodge the negative side of his policy, to his benefit, politically."

1. You're discussing MY intent. My intent was not to call my fellow Americans stupid. Save your pretense at outrage for something less pathetically obvious. Also, stop trying to put your spin in my mouth.


2. ANd yes, I said that. That was an actual lie. By Trump. FOr political gain. Geez, do I need to use smaller words of something?


What is your point, about that? DO you even know?

What you actually said was it is "CREDIBLE," lies are NOT credible, they are lies.
You are a liar, YOU are not credible.

The best lies are credible.


Do you even remember what point you were trying to make? DId you ever understand it?

No lie is credible.

Wow. Just wow.

Of course some lies are credible. That is why people are sometimes fooled by lies. Because they can be credible.


You have painted yourself into a corner and are getting more and more irrational.


Dude. Do you even remember what point you are trying to make?

Lies are NEVER "credible" except to a liar. People are SUCKERS, like you.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

1. You're discussing MY intent. My intent was not to call my fellow Americans stupid. Save your pretense at outrage for something less pathetically obvious. Also, stop trying to put your spin in my mouth.


2. ANd yes, I said that. That was an actual lie. By Trump. FOr political gain. Geez, do I need to use smaller words of something?


What is your point, about that? DO you even know?

What you actually said was it is "CREDIBLE," lies are NOT credible, they are lies.
You are a liar, YOU are not credible.

The best lies are credible.


Do you even remember what point you were trying to make? DId you ever understand it?

No lie is credible.

Wow. Just wow.

Of course some lies are credible. That is why people are sometimes fooled by lies. Because they can be credible.


You have painted yourself into a corner and are getting more and more irrational.


Dude. Do you even remember what point you are trying to make?

Lies are NEVER "credible" except to a liar. People are SUCKERS, like you.

Lies often seem credible, even though they are not.

 

[edthecynic]

A "lie" told that is completely NOT credible, to the point that the person telling it, does not expect it to be believed,


is not an actual lie.

Yeah sure and truth is not truth.

 

[edthecynic]

What you actually said was it is "CREDIBLE," lies are NOT credible, they are lies.
You are a liar, YOU are not credible.

The best lies are credible.


Do you even remember what point you were trying to make? DId you ever understand it?

No lie is credible.

Wow. Just wow.

Of course some lies are credible. That is why people are sometimes fooled by lies. Because they can be credible.


You have painted yourself into a corner and are getting more and more irrational.


Dude. Do you even remember what point you are trying to make?

Lies are NEVER "credible" except to a liar. People are SUCKERS, like you.

Lies often seem credible, even though they are not.

Yes but, "seeming" credible is not the same as "being" credible.

 

[Correll]

1. You're discussing MY intent. My intent was not to call my fellow Americans stupid. Save your pretense at outrage for something less pathetically obvious. Also, stop trying to put your spin in my mouth.


2. ANd yes, I said that. That was an actual lie. By Trump. FOr political gain. Geez, do I need to use smaller words of something?


What is your point, about that? DO you even know?

What you actually said was it is "CREDIBLE," lies are NOT credible, they are lies.
You are a liar, YOU are not credible.

The best lies are credible.


Do you even remember what point you were trying to make? DId you ever understand it?

No lie is credible.

Wow. Just wow.

Of course some lies are credible. That is why people are sometimes fooled by lies. Because they can be credible.


You have painted yourself into a corner and are getting more and more irrational.


Dude. Do you even remember what point you are trying to make?

Lies are NEVER "credible" except to a liar. People are SUCKERS, like you.

Sure they are. MOst lies have some level of credibility.


You are being insane.

 

[edthecynic]

Hyperbole, is not lying. Lying requires intent.

No, lying requires telling lies. If you are too STUPID to know you are lying you are still telling lies.

 

[Correll]

What you actually said was it is "CREDIBLE," lies are NOT credible, they are lies.
You are a liar, YOU are not credible.

The best lies are credible.


Do you even remember what point you were trying to make? DId you ever understand it?

No lie is credible.

Wow. Just wow.

Of course some lies are credible. That is why people are sometimes fooled by lies. Because they can be credible.


You have painted yourself into a corner and are getting more and more irrational.


Dude. Do you even remember what point you are trying to make?

Lies are NEVER "credible" except to a liar. People are SUCKERS, like you.

Lies often seem credible, even though they are not.

As credibility, by definition is about PERCEPTION, if a lie is perceived to be credible, it is credible.


That does not mean that it is not a lie.


Something can be completely believable, but still be false.

 

[edthecynic]

What you actually said was it is "CREDIBLE," lies are NOT credible, they are lies.
You are a liar, YOU are not credible.

The best lies are credible.


Do you even remember what point you were trying to make? DId you ever understand it?

No lie is credible.

Wow. Just wow.

Of course some lies are credible. That is why people are sometimes fooled by lies. Because they can be credible.


You have painted yourself into a corner and are getting more and more irrational.


Dude. Do you even remember what point you are trying to make?

Lies are NEVER "credible" except to a liar. People are SUCKERS, like you.

Sure they are. MOst lies have some level of credibility.


You are being insane.

Most lies have germ of truth, but they are still lies. There is a famous adage, A half truth is a whole lie.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

The best lies are credible.


Do you even remember what point you were trying to make? DId you ever understand it?

No lie is credible.

Wow. Just wow.

Of course some lies are credible. That is why people are sometimes fooled by lies. Because they can be credible.


You have painted yourself into a corner and are getting more and more irrational.


Dude. Do you even remember what point you are trying to make?

Lies are NEVER "credible" except to a liar. People are SUCKERS, like you.

Lies often seem credible, even though they are not.

As credibility, by definition is about PERCEPTION, if a lie is perceived to be credible, it is credible.


That does not mean that it is not a lie.


Something can be completely believable, but still be false.

Which has been my point all along

 

[Correll]

Hyperbole, is not lying. Lying requires intent.

No, lying requires telling lies. If you are too STUPID to know you are lying you are still telling lies.

Lying requires intent. By definition.


If I tell you it is raining cats and dogs, I am not tying to deceive you.

 

[Correll]

The best lies are credible.


Do you even remember what point you were trying to make? DId you ever understand it?

No lie is credible.

Wow. Just wow.

Of course some lies are credible. That is why people are sometimes fooled by lies. Because they can be credible.


You have painted yourself into a corner and are getting more and more irrational.


Dude. Do you even remember what point you are trying to make?

Lies are NEVER "credible" except to a liar. People are SUCKERS, like you.

Sure they are. MOst lies have some level of credibility.


You are being insane.

Most lies have germ of truth, but they are still lies. There is a famous adage, A half truth is a whole lie.

Truth and credibility are two completely different concepts.

Do you ever remember what point you were tying to make?

 

[Correll]

No lie is credible.

Wow. Just wow.

Of course some lies are credible. That is why people are sometimes fooled by lies. Because they can be credible.


You have painted yourself into a corner and are getting more and more irrational.


Dude. Do you even remember what point you are trying to make?

Lies are NEVER "credible" except to a liar. People are SUCKERS, like you.

Lies often seem credible, even though they are not.

As credibility, by definition is about PERCEPTION, if a lie is perceived to be credible, it is credible.


That does not mean that it is not a lie.


Something can be completely believable, but still be false.

Which has been my point all along

How so?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Wow. Just wow.

Of course some lies are credible. That is why people are sometimes fooled by lies. Because they can be credible.


You have painted yourself into a corner and are getting more and more irrational.


Dude. Do you even remember what point you are trying to make?

Lies are NEVER "credible" except to a liar. People are SUCKERS, like you.

Lies often seem credible, even though they are not.

As credibility, by definition is about PERCEPTION, if a lie is perceived to be credible, it is credible.


That does not mean that it is not a lie.


Something can be completely believable, but still be false.

Which has been my point all along

How so?

As you pointed out, curing cancer soon is believable even though it was a false promise.