Trump's 4% GDP growth promise update

[basquebromance]

Trump's has the worst witches brew on economic policy. we have a war on the solvency of the country. the swamp of waste of the pentagon is insane and will bring down the economy, which is already on its last leg

stop cherry picking the data, Trump peons!

 

[basquebromance]

this doomsday machine called the budget, and this bubble machine called the fed will collapse!

 

[Dragonlady]

Right and I also pointed out that it was his strategy to close the deal, so it was meant to be believed the way Tramp uses it as he explains in his book.

That it was to be used to close the deal, does not imply that it was meant to be believed, especially if you quoted him correctly and he used the word "hyperbole".

Of course his lies are meant to be believed, he is using then t sell his deal. His calling them "creative hyperbole" is just a rationalization of his lies for SUCKERS like you.

The most ironic part is that people like Corell are telling is that when the president uses the words “believe me”, we are to assume what he is saying is false.

I noticed in 2016 that Trump ONLY says “Believe me” when he’s telling a whopper.
Since then, there was a piece I read written by a psychologist who said that the phrase “Believe me!” is the “liar’s tell”. Honest people have no reason to reinforce the veracity of their statements, and they don’t expect anyone to question the truth of their assertions. Liars have to sell their lies.

Do you believe that Trump is a big user of hyperbole?

Hyperbole is exaggeration designed to inflate the facts. Trump flat out lies and makes up shit.

For example, Trump says that the Chinese are paying tariffs to the US government, and that American taxpayers are not footing the bill for tariffs on Chinese imports. That's a flat out lie. The American importer pays the tariff, and passes the cost on to the American consumer - an estimated $831 for each American household.

Trump saying that his tax cut is the largest tax cut in American history is hyperbole. Saying that every American worker would get a $4000 raise from the corporate tax cut was a lie.

 

[HappyJoy]

That it was to be used to close the deal, does not imply that it was meant to be believed, especially if you quoted him correctly and he used the word "hyperbole".

Of course his lies are meant to be believed, he is using then t sell his deal. His calling them "creative hyperbole" is just a rationalization of his lies for SUCKERS like you.

The most ironic part is that people like Corell are telling is that when the president uses the words “believe me”, we are to assume what he is saying is false.

I noticed in 2016 that Trump ONLY says “Believe me” when he’s telling a whopper.
Since then, there was a piece I read written by a psychologist who said that the phrase “Believe me!” is the “liar’s tell”. Honest people have no reason to reinforce the veracity of their statements, and they don’t expect anyone to question the truth of their assertions. Liars have to sell their lies.

Do you believe that Trump is a big user of hyperbole?

Hyperbole is exaggeration designed to inflate the facts. Trump flat out lies and makes up shit.

For example, Trump says that the Chinese are paying tariffs to the US government, and that American taxpayers are not footing the bill for tariffs on Chinese imports. That's a flat out lie. The American importer pays the tariff, and passes the cost on to the American consumer - an estimated $831 for each American household.

Trump saying that his tax cut is the largest tax cut in American history is hyperbole. Saying that every American worker would get a $4000 raise from the corporate tax cut was a lie.

I would argue the tax cut thing is a lie too.

 

[Correll]

1. I twice explained my reasoning. Your inability to address my response is noted.

2. I asked you a question. You failed to respond.

3. Let's turn this around. Can you give me a single example of his using hyperbole?

I have come to the conclusion that you do not actually know what hyperbole means.

Here are some examples of hyperbole...

• He's running faster than the wind.
• This bag weighs a ton.
• That man is as tall as a house.
• This is the worst day of my life.
• The shopping cost me a million dollars.
• My dad will kill me when he comes home.
• Your skin is softer than silk.
• She's as skinny as a toothpick.

They are all so far out there that nobody could ever think they were true. A statement has to be almost comical to be hyperbole.

Trump saying he would never again sign a giant omnibus spending bill is not so far out there than nobody would ever think it was true, in fact you are the only one I have ever seen claim it was hyperbole. As he described why he signed it and why he would not do so again, he gave it validity.

I cannot give you an example of Trump using hyperbole because I do not think he does so.

And now we see that it is YOU who is operating on a binary, either or nuance free view, not me.


Someone is either telling the clear Truth, or lying, no "3rd option".


I am the one pointing out the obvious truth, that it is a lot more complex than that, ESPECIALLY with a blow hard like the President.

It is not that complex. when one is using hyperbole they do not spend 5 minuets explaining why they made the comment.

Got it. It is either the truth or a lie. Black or white. In your world.

 

[basquebromance]

if you think we can borrow our way to prosperity, bury our children in debt, you're what i call a bubble blind individual!

 

[HappyJoy]

1. I twice explained my reasoning. Your inability to address my response is noted.

2. I asked you a question. You failed to respond.

3. Let's turn this around. Can you give me a single example of his using hyperbole?

I have come to the conclusion that you do not actually know what hyperbole means.

Here are some examples of hyperbole...

• He's running faster than the wind.
• This bag weighs a ton.
• That man is as tall as a house.
• This is the worst day of my life.
• The shopping cost me a million dollars.
• My dad will kill me when he comes home.
• Your skin is softer than silk.
• She's as skinny as a toothpick.

They are all so far out there that nobody could ever think they were true. A statement has to be almost comical to be hyperbole.

Trump saying he would never again sign a giant omnibus spending bill is not so far out there than nobody would ever think it was true, in fact you are the only one I have ever seen claim it was hyperbole. As he described why he signed it and why he would not do so again, he gave it validity.

I cannot give you an example of Trump using hyperbole because I do not think he does so.

And now we see that it is YOU who is operating on a binary, either or nuance free view, not me.


Someone is either telling the clear Truth, or lying, no "3rd option".


I am the one pointing out the obvious truth, that it is a lot more complex than that, ESPECIALLY with a blow hard like the President.

It is not that complex. when one is using hyperbole they do not spend 5 minuets explaining why they made the comment.

Got it. It is either the truth or a lie. Black or white. In your world.

With an argument like that then I guess there is no such thing as a lie.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

1. I twice explained my reasoning. Your inability to address my response is noted.

2. I asked you a question. You failed to respond.

3. Let's turn this around. Can you give me a single example of his using hyperbole?

I have come to the conclusion that you do not actually know what hyperbole means.

Here are some examples of hyperbole...

• He's running faster than the wind.
• This bag weighs a ton.
• That man is as tall as a house.
• This is the worst day of my life.
• The shopping cost me a million dollars.
• My dad will kill me when he comes home.
• Your skin is softer than silk.
• She's as skinny as a toothpick.

They are all so far out there that nobody could ever think they were true. A statement has to be almost comical to be hyperbole.

Trump saying he would never again sign a giant omnibus spending bill is not so far out there than nobody would ever think it was true, in fact you are the only one I have ever seen claim it was hyperbole. As he described why he signed it and why he would not do so again, he gave it validity.

I cannot give you an example of Trump using hyperbole because I do not think he does so.

And now we see that it is YOU who is operating on a binary, either or nuance free view, not me.


Someone is either telling the clear Truth, or lying, no "3rd option".


I am the one pointing out the obvious truth, that it is a lot more complex than that, ESPECIALLY with a blow hard like the President.

It is not that complex. when one is using hyperbole they do not spend 5 minuets explaining why they made the comment.

Got it. It is either the truth or a lie. Black or white. In your world.

If only that is what I had said....

let me post it again for you....

It is not that complex. when one is using hyperbole they do not spend 5 minuets explaining why they made the comment.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

With an argument like that then I guess there is no such thing as a lie.

Not in his world, Correll sees things that Trump says as either hyperbole or the truth...the very idea that Trump could tell a lie has never even occurred to Correll.

 

[edward37]

this doomsday machine called the budget, and this bubble machine called the fed will collapse!

Trump with 6 bankrupt companies now lends his expertise to America

 

[edthecynic]

He never uses the word hyperbole when he lies, only when he gets caught lying. He expects his "hyperbole" to be believed enough to close the "deal."

You are the one that quoted him, from his book, saying that he uses hyperbole.


Of course when one is exaggerating, one does not use the word exaggerate.


That was such a weak attack, that I find it hard to credit that you seriously believe what you just posted.

Right and I also pointed out that it was his strategy to close the deal, so it was meant to be believed the way Tramp uses it as he explains in his book.

That it was to be used to close the deal, does not imply that it was meant to be believed, especially if you quoted him correctly and he used the word "hyperbole".

Of course his lies are meant to be believed, he is using then t sell his deal. His calling them "creative hyperbole" is just a rationalization of his lies for SUCKERS like you.

I see that you asserted your conclusion very clearly, that is something.


But you did not actually do anything to support it. Other than asserting it strongly. So,


Is that ALL you have?

According to Tramp, asserting it strongly is good enough for him, just ask Putin and Mohammed Bone Saw.

 

[edthecynic]

Right and I also pointed out that it was his strategy to close the deal, so it was meant to be believed the way Tramp uses it as he explains in his book.

That it was to be used to close the deal, does not imply that it was meant to be believed, especially if you quoted him correctly and he used the word "hyperbole".

Of course his lies are meant to be believed, he is using then t sell his deal. His calling them "creative hyperbole" is just a rationalization of his lies for SUCKERS like you.

The most ironic part is that people like Corell are telling is that when the president uses the words “believe me”, we are to assume what he is saying is false.

I noticed in 2016 that Trump ONLY says “Believe me” when he’s telling a whopper.
Since then, there was a piece I read written by a psychologist who said that the phrase “Believe me!” is the “liar’s tell”. Honest people have no reason to reinforce the veracity of their statements, and they don’t expect anyone to question the truth of their assertions. Liars have to sell their lies.

Do you believe that Trump is a big user of hyperbole?

Only when he lies.

 

[Brain357]

And trump said trade wars were easy to win. What a mess, more taxes for us.

Buy US goods; less taxes!!!

Greg

Good luck finding any.

 

[Faun]

1. I twice explained my reasoning. Your inability to address my response is noted.

2. I asked you a question. You failed to respond.

3. Let's turn this around. Can you give me a single example of his using hyperbole?

I have come to the conclusion that you do not actually know what hyperbole means.

Here are some examples of hyperbole...

• He's running faster than the wind.
• This bag weighs a ton.
• That man is as tall as a house.
• This is the worst day of my life.
• The shopping cost me a million dollars.
• My dad will kill me when he comes home.
• Your skin is softer than silk.
• She's as skinny as a toothpick.

They are all so far out there that nobody could ever think they were true. A statement has to be almost comical to be hyperbole.

Trump saying he would never again sign a giant omnibus spending bill is not so far out there than nobody would ever think it was true, in fact you are the only one I have ever seen claim it was hyperbole. As he described why he signed it and why he would not do so again, he gave it validity.

I cannot give you an example of Trump using hyperbole because I do not think he does so.

And now we see that it is YOU who is operating on a binary, either or nuance free view, not me.


Someone is either telling the clear Truth, or lying, no "3rd option".


I am the one pointing out the obvious truth, that it is a lot more complex than that, ESPECIALLY with a blow hard like the President.

It is not that complex. when one is using hyperbole they do not spend 5 minuets explaining why they made the comment.

Got it. It is either the truth or a lie. Black or white. In your world.

With an argument like that then I guess there is no such thing as a lie.

Correct. Obama wasn't lying when he said, "if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor." That was hyperbole.

Bush wasn't lying when he said Iraq was stockpiling WMD, that was hyperbole too.

Clinton wasn't lying when he said, "I did not have sex with that woman." Hyperbole.

Reagan wasn't lying when he said the U.S. didn't trade arms for hostages. Hyperbole.

 

[Faun]

You are the one that quoted him, from his book, saying that he uses hyperbole.


Of course when one is exaggerating, one does not use the word exaggerate.


That was such a weak attack, that I find it hard to credit that you seriously believe what you just posted.

Right and I also pointed out that it was his strategy to close the deal, so it was meant to be believed the way Tramp uses it as he explains in his book.

That it was to be used to close the deal, does not imply that it was meant to be believed, especially if you quoted him correctly and he used the word "hyperbole".

Of course his lies are meant to be believed, he is using then t sell his deal. His calling them "creative hyperbole" is just a rationalization of his lies for SUCKERS like you.

I see that you asserted your conclusion very clearly, that is something.


But you did not actually do anything to support it. Other than asserting it strongly. So,


Is that ALL you have?

According to Tramp, asserting it strongly is good enough for him, just ask Putin and Mohammed Bone Saw.

 

[Papageorgio]

Dragon is from Canada, she is always ripping the US, she need to fix Canada and their issues and not be concerned with other countries. She complains about Russia's interference and I agree with her, however Canada or any other country needs to butt out.

I doubt she can fix Canada or any other country, that itself does not diqualify her comments about America.

That is your opinion, I disagree and that disqualifies her comments.

I don't "rip the US". I rip the asshole policies of your asshole President, and the lies of the conservatives posters. But I have noticed how defensive Russian posters are when someone criticizes the President. They're just as dishonest and thin-skinned as Trump.

Let's see all the proof you have of Russian posters, because you at times have called me a Russian poster. Is that your knee jerk response when you are defeated?

Just for the record, I'm a Russian-American poster

So? You want a cookie or something? You think you are special? Moron.
Your little girlfriend will runaway as usual because she can’t honestly answer the question.

 

[AntonToo]

I doubt she can fix Canada or any other country, that itself does not diqualify her comments about America.

That is your opinion, I disagree and that disqualifies her comments.

I don't "rip the US". I rip the asshole policies of your asshole President, and the lies of the conservatives posters. But I have noticed how defensive Russian posters are when someone criticizes the President. They're just as dishonest and thin-skinned as Trump.

Let's see all the proof you have of Russian posters, because you at times have called me a Russian poster. Is that your knee jerk response when you are defeated?

Just for the record, I'm a Russian-American poster

So? You want a cookie or something? You think you are special? Moron.
Your little girlfriend will runaway as usual because she can’t honestly answer the question.

Jeezus, lay off the midnight cocaine buddy,

I just thought it was ironic that the one who happens to be Russian in this thread is very anti-Putin, anti-Trump.

 

[Aldo Raine]

the Fed has euthanized trump and congress. they think they can get away with all this debt building because it doesn't cost much. we're burying the country in debt. we're heading for a recession, my friends!

Trump is out to lunch. he's an ignoramus on monetary policy

No, he is just an ignoramus period.

 

[Papageorgio]

That is your opinion, I disagree and that disqualifies her comments.

I don't "rip the US". I rip the asshole policies of your asshole President, and the lies of the conservatives posters. But I have noticed how defensive Russian posters are when someone criticizes the President. They're just as dishonest and thin-skinned as Trump.

Let's see all the proof you have of Russian posters, because you at times have called me a Russian poster. Is that your knee jerk response when you are defeated?

Just for the record, I'm a Russian-American poster

So? You want a cookie or something? You think you are special? Moron.
Your little girlfriend will runaway as usual because she can’t honestly answer the question.

Jeezus, lay off the midnight cocaine buddy,

I just thought it was ironic that the one who happens to be Russian in this thread is very anti-Putin, anti-Trump.

I don’t have a beef with you, I don’t like dragon accusing me of being a Russian, I despise Putin, the guy is a thug. If dragon can’t defend her argument, she just tries to minimize by name calling, it is BS, she needs to put up or shut the hell up.

WTH is “midnight cocaine”?

 

[AntonToo]

I don't "rip the US". I rip the asshole policies of your asshole President, and the lies of the conservatives posters. But I have noticed how defensive Russian posters are when someone criticizes the President. They're just as dishonest and thin-skinned as Trump.

Let's see all the proof you have of Russian posters, because you at times have called me a Russian poster. Is that your knee jerk response when you are defeated?

Just for the record, I'm a Russian-American poster

So? You want a cookie or something? You think you are special? Moron.
Your little girlfriend will runaway as usual because she can’t honestly answer the question.

Jeezus, lay off the midnight cocaine buddy,

I just thought it was ironic that the one who happens to be Russian in this thread is very anti-Putin, anti-Trump.

I don’t have a beef with you, I don’t like dragon accusing me of being a Russian, I despise Putin, the guy is a thug. If dragon can’t defend her argument, she just tries to minimize by name calling, it is BS, she needs to put up or shut the hell up.

WTH is “midnight cocaine”?

I gotcha and I wasn’t defending that.

Midnight cocaine...cocaine use in the middle of the night.