Trump will announce end of birthright citizenship for children of illegal immigrants, officials say

[80zephyr]

It happens all the time.

Numbers?

 

[80zephyr]

So. if that is true? What happens when we deport the parents? Are we suddenly going to be swimming in orphaned brown babies or will the parent's take them with them or leave them with citizen relatives? Seems like a win-win either way.

Is that politically palatable? Thats the question.

 

[pknopp]

And yet illegals cost us over 400 billion per year. How do you square that circle?

Border Crisis Costs American Taxpayers $451 Billion Annually, House GOP Report Claims | National Review

The latest committee findings come as the House considers whether to advance or block Marjorie Taylor Greene’s impeachment resolution of Alejandro Mayorkas.

www.nationalreview.com

So I guess we can toss out the claim that kids qualify for housing subsidies?

(I have never argued illegals don't cost us money so...............................)

 

[pknopp]

Numbers?

No idea. It does happen so we don't have to just imagine it.

 

[80zephyr]

So I guess we can toss out the claim that kids qualify for housing subsidies?

(I have never argued illegals don't cost us money so...............................)

I never said that. But there parents do, don't they?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Except that illegal aliens owe allegiance to their home countries. That can be shown by foreign citizens who acted as spies or returned to their home countries to serve against the USA in wars. The case is simple, if you are a citizen of a country you "owe allegiance" to that country. Illegal immigrants, faux asylum seekers and actual asylum seekers are never forced to renounce their citizenship in their home countries unless they apply for US citizenship.

Some yes. Not all of them. What do we do about our hostages in Israel that have dual citizenship. Should we abandon them to their fate because they were in Israel at the time? Are they on their own?

 

[Rawley]

So. if that is true? What happens when we deport the parents? Are we suddenly going to be swimming in orphaned brown babies

Like the 300,000 babies that Biden have to God knows who in this country?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Is that politically palatable? Thats the question.

I don't care what is politically palatable, and probably neither do you if you want the birthright citizenship changed.

 

[pknopp]

I never said that. But there parents do, don't they?

I posted the law. You can read it or not.

 

[80zephyr]

No idea. It does happen so we don't have to just imagine it.

6.1 million U.S.-citizen children under the age of 18 lived with an undocumented family member as of 2018.

In 2019, ICE deported 27,980 people with U.S.-born children.

U.S. Citizen Children Impacted by Immigration Enforcement - American Immigration Council

Deportations of parents and family members have serious consequences that affect children and extend to communities and the country as a whole.

www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org

 

[80zephyr]

I don't care what is politically palatable, and probably neither do you if you want the birthright citizenship changed.

Much "cleaner" to change the interpretation of the amendment.

 

[80zephyr]

I posted the law. You can read it or not.

Don't have to read it. The money is being spent.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Much "cleaner" to change the interpretation of the amendment.

Yeah, about as clean as mud!

An amendment stating "The 14th Amendments statements regarding birthright citizenship are hereby repealed. Congress shall have to power make legislation reading birthright citizenship" or something similar is all you need. it does not currently have that power under the 14th Amendment.

 

[pknopp]

6.1 million U.S.-citizen children under the age of 18 lived with an undocumented family member as of 2018.

In 2019, ICE deported 27,980 people with U.S.-born children.

U.S. Citizen Children Impacted by Immigration Enforcement - American Immigration Council

Deportations of parents and family members have serious consequences that affect children and extend to communities and the country as a whole.

www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org

Cool, thanks for looking it up.

 

[pknopp]

Don't have to read it. The money is being spent.

Sure it is. Not on illegals though. But no, you have no obligation to educate your self when you have politics to promote.

 

[80zephyr]

Yeah, about as clean as mud!

An amendment stating "The 14th Amendments statements regarding birthright citizenship are hereby repealed. Congress shall have to power make legislation reading birthright citizenship" or something similar is all you need. it does not currently have that power under the 14th Amendment.

An amendment that will NEVER pass in blue states is useless.

 

[80zephyr]

Sure it is. Not on illegals though. But no, you have no obligation to educate your self when you have politics to promote.

Of course it is being spent on illegals. When they are housing them in New York and Chicago, are they staying in those places free?

Again, from my link: In a 49-page report released Monday, the House Committee on Homeland Security found that nearly half a trillion dollars is being lost in the healthcare, law enforcement, education, housing, and other sectors due to an influx of illegal immigration in the past two years.

 

[pknopp]

Of course it is being spent on illegals. When they are housing them in New York and Chicago, are they staying in those places free?

Again, from my link: In a 49-page report released Monday, the House Committee on Homeland Security found that nearly half a trillion dollars is being lost in the healthcare, law enforcement, education, housing, and other sectors due to an influx of illegal immigration in the past two years.

Double down on ignorance. The money spent on those were people applying to asylum. A legal status.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

An amendment that will NEVER pass in blue states is useless.

How do you know it won't pass?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

The problem is the statement was contained in the amendment and requires no clarification, and it was defined in the court ruling. If we want to change the amendment, let's do it the right way.

Any way it gets done.