Trump Wants To Use U.S. Nuclear Submarines To Threaten Russia

He is stupid an Ohio class stationed at the docks in North fork could nuke Moscow
He is trying to avoid a nuke war but stop russia...not cause a nuclear war. Sending in the ships sends a SIGNAL for PUtin to knock his shit off--------Nuking as you advocate starts a nuclear war.

Peace is obtained and kept threw strength not by hiding in a corner and not be throwing aimless punches.
 
Cute try. I'll only reply to one, all of them are not worth my time. They too are false, as you know well!

Published February 1, 2020
China slams Trump's coronavirus travel limits: 'Not a gesture of goodwill'
By Joe McDonald, Sam McNeil | Associated Press
[...]
On Friday, the United States declared a public health emergency and President Donald Trump and an order barring entry to foreign nationals, other than immediate family of American citizens and permanent residents, who visited China within the last 14 days, which scientists say is the virus’s longest incubation period.

'Unfriendly comments'
China criticized the U.S. controls, which it said contradicted the WHO’s appeal to avoid travel bans, and “unfriendly comments” that Beijing was failing to cooperate.

“Just as the WHO recommended against travel restrictions, the U.S. rushed to go in the opposite way. Certainly not a gesture of goodwill,” said foreign ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying.

WHO Secretary-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said in Geneva that despite the emergency declaration, there is “no reason for measures that unnecessarily interfere with international travel and trade.”
[...]
China slams Trump's coronavirus travel limits: 'Not a gesture of goodwill'

China slams Trump's coronavirus travel limits: 'Not a gesture of goodwill'

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Democrat Response to Coronavirus: End Trump’s Travel Bans on China, Iran
JOHN BINDER 11 Mar 2020 2:58

House and Senate Democrats are responding to the coronavirus outbreak in the United States by supporting measures to effectively strip President Trump of his authority to impose travel bans to protect American citizens.

While Trump has implemented travel bans on China and Iran — two of the most coronavirus-affected nations in the world — House Democrats are looking to roll back the president’s authority to enact travel bans from regions of the world.

Dems' Response to Coronavirus: End Trump's Travel Bans on China, Iran

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Nolte: A Mere 8 Days Ago Joe Biden Was Still Attacking Trump’s Travel Bans
JOHN NOLTE 20 Mar 2020

A mere eight days ago, Joe Biden was still vocally opposing President Donald Trump’s travel bans from Europe, and even China, as racist. In other words, if Biden was the president, we can’t begin to imagine how much worse things would look in American today thanks to President Biden’s refusal to keep people out from the very same places where the Chinese coronavirus rages.

https://www.breitbart.com/.../nolte-mere-8-days-ago-joe.../
You can't prevent US citizens from coming home to the US.
 
Cute try. I'll only reply to one, all of them are not worth my time. They too are false, as you know well!

Published February 1, 2020
China slams Trump's coronavirus travel limits: 'Not a gesture of goodwill'
By Joe McDonald, Sam McNeil | Associated Press
[...]
On Friday, the United States declared a public health emergency and President Donald Trump and an order barring entry to foreign nationals, other than immediate family of American citizens and permanent residents, who visited China within the last 14 days, which scientists say is the virus’s longest incubation period.

'Unfriendly comments'
China criticized the U.S. controls, which it said contradicted the WHO’s appeal to avoid travel bans, and “unfriendly comments” that Beijing was failing to cooperate.

“Just as the WHO recommended against travel restrictions, the U.S. rushed to go in the opposite way. Certainly not a gesture of goodwill,” said foreign ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying.

WHO Secretary-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said in Geneva that despite the emergency declaration, there is “no reason for measures that unnecessarily interfere with international travel and trade.”
[...]
China slams Trump's coronavirus travel limits: 'Not a gesture of goodwill'

China slams Trump's coronavirus travel limits: 'Not a gesture of goodwill'

###

Democrat Response to Coronavirus: End Trump’s Travel Bans on China, Iran
JOHN BINDER 11 Mar 2020 2:58

House and Senate Democrats are responding to the coronavirus outbreak in the United States by supporting measures to effectively strip President Trump of his authority to impose travel bans to protect American citizens.

While Trump has implemented travel bans on China and Iran — two of the most coronavirus-affected nations in the world — House Democrats are looking to roll back the president’s authority to enact travel bans from regions of the world.

Dems' Response to Coronavirus: End Trump's Travel Bans on China, Iran

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Nolte: A Mere 8 Days Ago Joe Biden Was Still Attacking Trump’s Travel Bans
JOHN NOLTE 20 Mar 2020

A mere eight days ago, Joe Biden was still vocally opposing President Donald Trump’s travel bans from Europe, and even China, as racist. In other words, if Biden was the president, we can’t begin to imagine how much worse things would look in American today thanks to President Biden’s refusal to keep people out from the very same places where the Chinese coronavirus rages.

https://www.breitbart.com/.../nolte-mere-8-days-ago-joe.../
Keep laughing Markle, we now know conclusively that the first cases had reached the US by mid January.


Trump is just a man, not a god and all men have flaws and make mistakes.

This was probably the worst mistake of his entire presidency.
 
You can't prevent US citizens from coming home to the US.
Yes you certainly can in a pandemic under the emergency powers of the president.

We could have done just what we did with the first couple of groups of fliers and ship passengers and quarantined them for two weeks before releasing them into the interior.
 
Disagree all you want, by the time that limited ban went into effect it had already reached our shores.

As soon as we knew there was an epidemic in China we should have cut off all travel from Asia immediately except for returning Americans and Vis Holders who then should have been quarantined before being allowed into the interior.

As soon as it was know to have spread beyond Asia, we should have put in effect a complete international travel ban for all but the same Americans and Visa holders to be quarantined.

It would have been a precedential and historical action but could have saved hundreds of thousands of lives as we ramped up for the inevitable giving us months of lead time to prepare.
That's just goofy. Why do you throw out such lies. Desperation?
 
He is trying to avoid a nuke war but stop russia...not cause a nuclear war. Sending in the ships sends a SIGNAL for PUtin to knock his shit off--------Nuking as you advocate starts a nuclear war.

Peace is obtained and kept threw strength not by hiding in a corner and not be throwing aimless punches.

If we sent subs into the region Putin would not even know they were there. If they were detected the Oscars would be on them like a blood hound on a hot trail.
 
Yes you certainly can in a pandemic under the emergency powers of the president.

We could have done just what we did with the first couple of groups of fliers and ship passengers and quarantined them for two weeks before releasing them into the interior.
Absolutely. We can quarantine them, but how do you refuse a citizen?
 
That's just goofy. Why do you throw out such lies. Desperation?
I haven't lied about anything, I don't need to and I documented it.

Why were you so delusional as to believe Trump is perfect and could not or didn't make any mistakes?

That would be the relevant question.
 
Keep laughing Markle, we now know conclusively that the first cases had reached the US by mid January.


Trump is just a man, not a god and all men have flaws and make mistakes.

This was probably the worst mistake of his entire presidency.
My guess is that you forgot that China AND the World Health Organization told the World that COVID was not dangerous.

Much as it pains and chafes you, President Trump did an excellent job of handling the COVID pandemic. It and the entire country has gone to heck in a hand basket.

You can whine all you want and say it isn't true, BUT even Democrats are fleeing him like rats from a sinking ship.

We are in deep doo-doo and all your denials and whining isn't going to change the facts. It is what it is.

Even you can't fix what you don't acknowledge.
 
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Simple, you say you can't come into the US during this emergency without first clearing two weeks of quarantine upon arrival.
Markle you need to get a grip on reality. That can be done and has been done including on a limited basis by Trump.
 
My guess is that you forgot that China AND the World Health Organization told the World that COVID was not dangerous.

Much as it pains and chaps you, President Trump did an excellent job of handling the COVID pandemic. It and the entire country has gone to heck in a hand basket.

You can whine all you want and say it isn't true, BUT even Democrats are fleeing him like rats from a sinking ship.

We are in deep doo-doo and all your denials and whining isn't going to change the facts. It is what it is.

Even you can't fix what you don't acknowledge.
I haven't forgotten anythign and our own Intel people knew there was an ongoing epidemic in China weeks before the Chinese announced it.


The Wuhan lockdown began in mid January at which point the Chinese could not longer even pretend there wasn't an epidemic.


We now know their first cases were identified in November.
 
My guess is that you forgot that China AND the World Health Organization told the World that COVID was not dangerous.

Much as it pains and chaps you, President Trump did an excellent job of handling the COVID pandemic. It and the entire country has gone to heck in a hand basket.

You can whine all you want and say it isn't true, BUT even Democrats are fleeing him like rats from a sinking ship.

We are in deep doo-doo and all your denials and whining isn't going to change the facts. It is what it is.

Even you can't fix what you don't acknowledge.
What pains me is that sycophants can't admit he's human and made mistakes.
 
In fact, a Trident missile can't be launched from the docks. It must be ejected from a submerged submarine inside a steam bubble and rocket motors ignite when it broaches the surface.

Firing the rocket engines in the tube would destroy the tube and, most likely, ignite the other rockets.
I would think the new Columbia class subs could launch their Trident II D5LE payload in relatively shallow water, given the upgrades to the missile compartment (which it shares in common with the UK's new Dreadnought class ballistic subs)
 
I would think the new Columbia class subs could launch their Trident II D5LE payload in relatively shallow water,

The launch depth for all sub-based ICBMs is relatively shallow compared to the sub's test depth. But you can't launch any sub-based ICBM from the surface.
 
Well, actually they are both, certainly a defensive deterrent and a 2nd Strike weapon.
Actually the newer Trident II D5 ballistic missiles, which are currently carried by Ohio class subs (SSBN-734 and later) and the upcoming Columbia class subs, are rated for first-strike, counterforce, and second-strike capabilities. And the ongoing D5LE program is intended to bring further upgrades to the guidance and reentry systems for the Trident II, enhancing all three of those capabilities.

... AND, if this gets approved (was proposed by the NNSA near the end of Trump's term, not sure where it stands now), we may soon be outfitting the D5LE with a new nuclear warhead dubbed the W93 with a new Mk7 reentry vehicle. Most notably, the W93 will be lighter than the current W76 warheads with a higher-yield payload, allowing it to go farther and faster, and it will have next-gen guidance to better evade missile defense systems and hit precision targets from a greater distance.

While we're on the subject, it's worth mentioning that the Navy is also currently developing a new nuclear armed cruise missile dubbed SLCM-N (sea launched cruise missile), which is slated to be deployed on Virginia class attack subs. That was another project proposed during Trump's term, but I recall reading that it did get funding approval last year. But that's not slated to be ready until around 2030 or so, IIRC.
 
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the Navy is also currently developing a new nuclear armed cruise missile dubbed SLCM-N (sea launched cruise missile), which is slated to be deployed on Virginia class attack subs.

Tomahawk cruise missiles have been deployed on Los Angeles class submarines since 1981.
 
Tomahawk cruise missiles have been deployed on Los Angeles class submarines since 1981.
Yes, but the nuclear variant (TLAM-N, aka 109A) was retired a decade ago...all of the Tomahawk variants currently in service are outfitted with conventional payloads. This would be the first nuclear armed cruise missile in U.S. Navy service since the Tomahawk's nuclear variant was retired.

On a somewhat related note, it's worth mentioning that despite us following through with our pledge to reduce our nuclear stockpile by 80% since the end of the Cold War, with the (well-intentioned but naive) expectation that our Cold War adversaries would follow our example, they have done exactly the opposite. Russia and China are rapidly expanding their arsenals of nonstrategic nuclear weapons, including nuclear torpedoes, depth charges, cruise missiles, anti-aircraft missiles, short-range ballistic missiles, and gravity weapons....most of which no longer exist in our nuclear arsenal, or only in de minimis quantities. And now we can include North Korea and Iran as players in the 21st century nuclear arms race, while we continue to scale down and pretend oil-rich middle eastern countries that openly sponsor terrorism want to build nuclear enrichment facilities but only for use in power plants. Take that for what it's worth...
 
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In fact, a Trident missile can't be launched from the docks. It must be ejected from a submerged submarine inside a steam bubble and rocket motors ignite when it broaches the surface.

Firing the rocket engines in the tube would destroy the tube and, most likely, ignite the other rockets.
You may well be right about the Trident but I know that Polaris missile were launched from the surface


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Description: USS Henry Clay (SSBN-625) launches a Polaris A-2 missile from the surface of the Atlantic Ocean off Cape Kennedy, FL. The objects flying through the air around the missile are launch adapters designed to detach themselves automatically once the missile has left the tube. The sub's slight port list is a standard part of surface launch procedures. The tall mast is a temporary telemetry antenna installed for operations at the Cape only. This was the first demonstration that Polaris subs can launch missiles from the surface as well as from beneath the surface. 30 minutes earlier the Clay successfully launched an A-2 missile submerged.[/i] … emphasis added
 

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