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[Fort Fun Indiana]

Japan was indeed defeated without ground forces.

And with nukes.

Is this what you propose?

Let all the insane Zionism out. Don't be shy.

 

[rylah]

And with nukes.

Is this what you propose?

Let all the insane Zionism out. Don't be shy.

Modern munitions provide a broader variety of options,
that can bring the same level of devastation, in much smaller radius.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Japan was indeed defeated without ground forces.

The invasion plans that were cancelled,
involved the navy and air force.

If you have conflicting info,
beside the trash talk -
do present it.

What? Borneo, the Carolinas, the Marshalls, Tarawa, the Philippines, Iwo Jima, Okinawa, the Burma Campaign, the liberation of Manchuria ring a bell?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Modern munitions provide a broader variety of options.

I knew you would dodge. You're embarrassed of your own fanaticism. Even on an anonymous message board.

 

[rylah]

I knew you would dodge. You're embarrassed of your own fanaticism. Even on an anonymous message board.

Would it be easier if I was an "embarrassed fanatic"?

Perhaps, the ad hominem is admission
that you can't address complexity.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Perhaps, the ad hominem is admission
you can't address complexity.

Perhaps you're flailing and stammering, because a yes/no question sent you into a tailspin.

 

[rylah]

Perhaps you're flailing and stammering, because a yes/no question sent you into a tailspin.

Not at all, merely pointing to the fact
that today it is possible to defeat a hostile regime -
without a single atomic bomb, with the Navy and Airforce.

 

[schmidlap]

Because you claimed that Netanyahu determines the war,

False. Your repeating your lie only confirms your lack of integrity.

As I noted, Netanyahu has the power to continue the war. He has a disparate agenda from the U.S.

(My Post 566:"Netanyahu will determine when his war ends, not Trump, and ending it soon does not fit Bibi's agenda.")

 

[rylah]

What? Borneo, the Carolinas, the Marshalls, Tarawa, the Philippines, Iwo Jima, Okinawa, the Burma Campaign, the liberation of Manchuria ring a bell?

None of these campaigns actually made Japan surrender.
It was devastation by the Navy and the Air Force.

 

[Zincwarrior]

None of these campaigns actually made Japan surrender.
It was devastation by the Navy and the Air Force.

Wrong. Thats how the AirForce got there.

Also japan lost 600,000 soldiers in just eleven days. It took starvation, destruction of the air force, navy, two nukes and Manchiria crushing their Asian armies to get them to surrender.

The only time air action arguably made a country surrender was Serbia, and they weren't really into it.

 

[rylah]

False. Your repeating your lie only confirms your lack of integrity.

As I noted, Netanyahu has the power to continue the war. He has a disparate agenda from the U.S.

(My Post 566:"Netanyahu will determine when his war ends, not Trump, and ending it soon does not fit Bibi's agenda.")

Q: If you claim PM Netanyahu determines when the war ends,

how do you explain Trump halting the last Israeli strike in the previous war?

Donald Trump ordered Israel to halt strike on Iran in call to Benjamin Netanyahu

Following a call between the two leaders, Israeli aircraft were ordered to return to base and a single fighter jet executed a solitary airstrike on a site deemed symbolic rather than strategic.

news.sky.com

 

[schmidlap]

Q: If you claim PM Netanyahu determines when the war ends,

how do you explain Trump halting the last Israeli strike in the previous war?

Donald Trump ordered Israel to halt strike on Iran in call to Benjamin Netanyahu

Following a call between the two leaders, Israeli aircraft were ordered to return to base and a single fighter jet executed a solitary airstrike on a site deemed symbolic rather than strategic.

news.sky.com

I never discussed previous wars. I addressed their disparate agendas in this one.

Trump and Netanyahu may have jointly started the war in Iran, but ending it together will be difficult

Reports are circulating of rifts between Donald Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu over the war in Iran.

theconversation.com

 

[rylah]

I never discussed previous wars. I addressed their disparate agendas in this one.

Trump and Netanyahu may have jointly started the war in Iran, but ending it together will be difficult

Reports are circulating of rifts between Donald Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu over the war in Iran.

theconversation.com

Do you prefer a say so, to evidence of previous conduct?

Then I really shouldn't confuse you with facts.

 

[schmidlap]

Do you prefer a say so, to evidence of previous conduct?

Then I really shouldn't confuse you with facts.

Are you able to acknowledge that Trump and Netanyahu are answerable to disparate electorates?

“The objectives that have been laid out by the president are different from the objectives that have been laid out by the Israeli government,” Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard noted to House intelligence Committee.

 

[rylah]

Are you able to acknowledge that Trump and Netanyahu are answerable to disparate electorates?

“The objectives that have been laid out by the president are different from the objectives that have been laid out by the Israeli government,” Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard noted to House intelligence Committee.

The electorate is different,
but the objectives eventually match.

Why?
Partially because of the psyop about US weakness,
that results in the Iranian positions turning further extreme.