Trump to Suspend Payroll Taxes Till End of Year

[Mr Natural]

And yet there are still dumbasses over 65 who’ll vote for republicans at the national level.

 

[gipper]

These are the kinds of silly, unrealistic ideas that might enable Biden to win the election. Of course we are not going to abolish the payroll tax. How would we fund Social Security?

Unless they are "fixed" Medicare will be bankrupt in 2026, and Social Security "insolvent" in 2037, paying only 92% of promised benefits. Those assumptions are based on current payroll tax rates.

In the debates, someone needs to ask Trump and Biden WTF they would do to "fix" SS and Medicare before they go bankrupt.

Somehow funding for the war machine never goes bankrupt.

National defense is a Constitutional requirement. Government healthcare, housing, food, etc, isn't.

How convenient? Cite the Constitution, which the government regularly ignores and violates, to protect the massive unjust funding of the murderous military industrial complex.

Damn! That’s nuts!

You're stupid beyond reason. You support government funded murder through abortion, you glittering hypocritical moonbat.

Lol. You don’t know me. No one is more anti abortion than me, numb nuts.

You dumb wingers think everyone is either a dumb con like you, or a dumb lib. Don’t be dumb.

National defense is Constitutional, Idiot.

You must have an IQ of a gnat.

The fact you don't know that National Defense is Constitutional means you're dumber than an empty box of Raisin Bran.

Lol. You think our military is defending us. You’re terribly naive. The Empire is an imperialist one. It is all about protecting the interests of the billionaires.

Wake up son.

Oh, for sure. Tell me where you bought your tin foil hat.

Makes no sense. Please if we are to debate, you must learn to make logical arguments.

 

[gipper]

These are the kinds of silly, unrealistic ideas that might enable Biden to win the election. Of course we are not going to abolish the payroll tax. How would we fund Social Security?

Unless they are "fixed" Medicare will be bankrupt in 2026, and Social Security "insolvent" in 2037, paying only 92% of promised benefits. Those assumptions are based on current payroll tax rates.

In the debates, someone needs to ask Trump and Biden WTF they would do to "fix" SS and Medicare before they go bankrupt.

Somehow funding for the war machine never goes bankrupt.

National defense is a Constitutional requirement. Government healthcare, housing, food, etc, isn't.

Troops in over 130 nations isn't national defense, it's international military meddling and hegemony.

Oh, for sure. Let's just send flowers and candy to Russia and China so they'll love us, huh.

Typical duped American.

 

[gipper]

These are the kinds of silly, unrealistic ideas that might enable Biden to win the election. Of course we are not going to abolish the payroll tax. How would we fund Social Security?

Unless they are "fixed" Medicare will be bankrupt in 2026, and Social Security "insolvent" in 2037, paying only 92% of promised benefits. Those assumptions are based on current payroll tax rates.

In the debates, someone needs to ask Trump and Biden WTF they would do to "fix" SS and Medicare before they go bankrupt.

Somehow funding for the war machine never goes bankrupt.

National defense is a Constitutional requirement. Government healthcare, housing, food, etc, isn't.

Troops in over 130 nations isn't national defense, it's international military meddling and hegemony.

It’s imperialism and it’s designed to benefit the ultra wealthy. More socialism for them, while the rest of us need to pull up our boot straps.

 

[Oddball]

These are the kinds of silly, unrealistic ideas that might enable Biden to win the election. Of course we are not going to abolish the payroll tax. How would we fund Social Security?

Unless they are "fixed" Medicare will be bankrupt in 2026, and Social Security "insolvent" in 2037, paying only 92% of promised benefits. Those assumptions are based on current payroll tax rates.

In the debates, someone needs to ask Trump and Biden WTF they would do to "fix" SS and Medicare before they go bankrupt.

Somehow funding for the war machine never goes bankrupt.

National defense is a Constitutional requirement. Government healthcare, housing, food, etc, isn't.

Troops in over 130 nations isn't national defense, it's international military meddling and hegemony.

Oh, for sure. Let's just send flowers and candy to Russia and China so they'll love us, huh.

What a stupid, ridiculous, idiotic argument...Probably a more stupid, ridiculous, and idiotic argument than any moronic moonbat will make this week in any context.

Minding your own goddamn business doesn't automatically mean that you're letting hooligans rule the world.

 

[BS Filter]

These are the kinds of silly, unrealistic ideas that might enable Biden to win the election. Of course we are not going to abolish the payroll tax. How would we fund Social Security?

Unless they are "fixed" Medicare will be bankrupt in 2026, and Social Security "insolvent" in 2037, paying only 92% of promised benefits. Those assumptions are based on current payroll tax rates.

In the debates, someone needs to ask Trump and Biden WTF they would do to "fix" SS and Medicare before they go bankrupt.

Somehow funding for the war machine never goes bankrupt.

National defense is a Constitutional requirement. Government healthcare, housing, food, etc, isn't.

Troops in over 130 nations isn't national defense, it's international military meddling and hegemony.

Oh, for sure. Let's just send flowers and candy to Russia and China so they'll love us, huh.

Typical duped American.

So what shithole do you live in?

 

[gipper]

These are the kinds of silly, unrealistic ideas that might enable Biden to win the election. Of course we are not going to abolish the payroll tax. How would we fund Social Security?

Unless they are "fixed" Medicare will be bankrupt in 2026, and Social Security "insolvent" in 2037, paying only 92% of promised benefits. Those assumptions are based on current payroll tax rates.

In the debates, someone needs to ask Trump and Biden WTF they would do to "fix" SS and Medicare before they go bankrupt.

Somehow funding for the war machine never goes bankrupt.

National defense is a Constitutional requirement. Government healthcare, housing, food, etc, isn't.

Troops in over 130 nations isn't national defense, it's international military meddling and hegemony.

Oh, for sure. Let's just send flowers and candy to Russia and China so they'll love us, huh.

Typical duped American.

So what shithole do you live in?

Moron.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Conservatives, of course, will attempt to advance the lie that absent a payroll tax, workers will have ‘more money’ to save for retirement.

Such dishonest sophistry is as idiotic as it is wrong.

Most working Americans live from paycheck to paycheck – the consequence of wages which have remained stagnant for decades. The meager funds not subject to a payroll tax are nowhere near enough to save for retirement, and will likely be used for emergencies, such as car repairs and medical bills.

Social Security and Medicare work – they need to be funded and protected from the likes of Trump.

Social Insecurity gives no better than a 1% ROI....If you add in inflation, that's no better an "investment" than stuffing cash into mason jars and burying them in the back yard....Go piss up a rope.

Oh, and....

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No one is forcing you to rely soley on SS. It's a guaranteed basic income only. You can have as many accounts as you can fund.

Wow, that had nothing to do with what he said at all in any way. This is why I just keep insulting Democrats at this point. You're the dumbest people on the face of the planet.

Oddball: SS is a terrible investment

Hutch: Well you can make OTHER investments too ...

LOL, what a dumbass

Wow, that had nothing to do with what he said at all in any way. This is why I just keep insulting Democrats at this point. You're the dumbest people on the face of the planet.

Oddball: SS is a terrible investment

Hutch: Well you can make OTHER investments too ...

LOL, what a dumbass

It's simple but apparently above your paygrade.

It was never meant to be a great investment, dope.

That fact renders OB's post irrelevant.

So you admit social security is actually not a prudent investment in our own retirement

So you admit social security is actually not a prudent investment in our own retirement

Not at all, dope.
I said it was a guaranteed income. Nothing else.
You're free to make whatever type of investment you can fund.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Conservatives, of course, will attempt to advance the lie that absent a payroll tax, workers will have ‘more money’ to save for retirement.

Such dishonest sophistry is as idiotic as it is wrong.

Most working Americans live from paycheck to paycheck – the consequence of wages which have remained stagnant for decades. The meager funds not subject to a payroll tax are nowhere near enough to save for retirement, and will likely be used for emergencies, such as car repairs and medical bills.

Social Security and Medicare work – they need to be funded and protected from the likes of Trump.

Social Insecurity gives no better than a 1% ROI....If you add in inflation, that's no better an "investment" than stuffing cash into mason jars and burying them in the back yard....Go piss up a rope.

Oh, and....

View attachment 374658

No one is forcing you to rely soley on SS. It's a guaranteed basic income only. You can have as many accounts as you can fund.

Pretty piss poor diversionary strawman argument.

Fact remains that SS is a totally shit "investment".

Pretty piss poor diversionary strawman argument.

Fact remains that SS is a totally shit "investment"

The strawman is yours.
It was never meant to be a great investment, dope.

 

[Oddball]

Conservatives, of course, will attempt to advance the lie that absent a payroll tax, workers will have ‘more money’ to save for retirement.

Such dishonest sophistry is as idiotic as it is wrong.

Most working Americans live from paycheck to paycheck – the consequence of wages which have remained stagnant for decades. The meager funds not subject to a payroll tax are nowhere near enough to save for retirement, and will likely be used for emergencies, such as car repairs and medical bills.

Social Security and Medicare work – they need to be funded and protected from the likes of Trump.

Social Insecurity gives no better than a 1% ROI....If you add in inflation, that's no better an "investment" than stuffing cash into mason jars and burying them in the back yard....Go piss up a rope.

Oh, and....

View attachment 374658

No one is forcing you to rely soley on SS. It's a guaranteed basic income only. You can have as many accounts as you can fund.

Pretty piss poor diversionary strawman argument.

Fact remains that SS is a totally shit "investment".

Pretty piss poor diversionary strawman argument.

Fact remains that SS is a totally shit "investment"

The strawman is yours.
It was never meant to be a great investment, dope.

It was alleged that it would keep seniors out of poverty in their later years, and it can't even do that.

So go suck a bag of dicks, peckerhead.

 

[BS Filter]

These are the kinds of silly, unrealistic ideas that might enable Biden to win the election. Of course we are not going to abolish the payroll tax. How would we fund Social Security?

Unless they are "fixed" Medicare will be bankrupt in 2026, and Social Security "insolvent" in 2037, paying only 92% of promised benefits. Those assumptions are based on current payroll tax rates.

In the debates, someone needs to ask Trump and Biden WTF they would do to "fix" SS and Medicare before they go bankrupt.

Somehow funding for the war machine never goes bankrupt.

National defense is a Constitutional requirement. Government healthcare, housing, food, etc, isn't.

Troops in over 130 nations isn't national defense, it's international military meddling and hegemony.

Oh, for sure. Let's just send flowers and candy to Russia and China so they'll love us, huh.

Typical duped American.

So what shithole do you live in?

Moron.

Pusillanimous putrid punk.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Conservatives, of course, will attempt to advance the lie that absent a payroll tax, workers will have ‘more money’ to save for retirement.

Such dishonest sophistry is as idiotic as it is wrong.

Most working Americans live from paycheck to paycheck – the consequence of wages which have remained stagnant for decades. The meager funds not subject to a payroll tax are nowhere near enough to save for retirement, and will likely be used for emergencies, such as car repairs and medical bills.

Social Security and Medicare work – they need to be funded and protected from the likes of Trump.

Social Insecurity gives no better than a 1% ROI....If you add in inflation, that's no better an "investment" than stuffing cash into mason jars and burying them in the back yard....Go piss up a rope.

Oh, and....

View attachment 374658

No one is forcing you to rely soley on SS. It's a guaranteed basic income only. You can have as many accounts as you can fund.

Pretty piss poor diversionary strawman argument.

Fact remains that SS is a totally shit "investment".

Pretty piss poor diversionary strawman argument.

Fact remains that SS is a totally shit "investment"

The strawman is yours.
It was never meant to be a great investment, dope.

It was alleged that it would keep seniors out of poverty in their later years, and it can't even do that.

So go suck a bag of dicks, peckerhead.

It was alleged that it would keep seniors out of poverty in their later years, and it can't even do that.

So go suck a bag of dicks, peckerhead

Nice pivot to the new strawman. Good job.

 

[22lcidw]

All the more reason to vote Trump out of office this November.

More of Trump and his supporters being reckless and irresponsible.

He just wants to control the debate. Progs are going to double the taxes on the working people.

 

[kaz]

Conservatives, of course, will attempt to advance the lie that absent a payroll tax, workers will have ‘more money’ to save for retirement.

Such dishonest sophistry is as idiotic as it is wrong.

Most working Americans live from paycheck to paycheck – the consequence of wages which have remained stagnant for decades. The meager funds not subject to a payroll tax are nowhere near enough to save for retirement, and will likely be used for emergencies, such as car repairs and medical bills.

Social Security and Medicare work – they need to be funded and protected from the likes of Trump.

Social Insecurity gives no better than a 1% ROI....If you add in inflation, that's no better an "investment" than stuffing cash into mason jars and burying them in the back yard....Go piss up a rope.

Oh, and....

View attachment 374658

No one is forcing you to rely soley on SS. It's a guaranteed basic income only. You can have as many accounts as you can fund.

Wow, that had nothing to do with what he said at all in any way. This is why I just keep insulting Democrats at this point. You're the dumbest people on the face of the planet.

Oddball: SS is a terrible investment

Hutch: Well you can make OTHER investments too ...

LOL, what a dumbass

Wow, that had nothing to do with what he said at all in any way. This is why I just keep insulting Democrats at this point. You're the dumbest people on the face of the planet.

Oddball: SS is a terrible investment

Hutch: Well you can make OTHER investments too ...

LOL, what a dumbass

It's simple but apparently above your paygrade.

It was never meant to be a great investment, dope.

That fact renders OB's post irrelevant.

So you admit social security is actually not a prudent investment in our own retirement

So you admit social security is actually not a prudent investment in our own retirement

Not at all, dope.
I said it was a guaranteed income. Nothing else.
You're free to make whatever type of investment you can fund.

That's not what Democrats claim

 

[BS Filter]

Always remember, Democrats are liars. They have to lie or they'd never get elected. Harris is a "moderate". Lol.

 

[Penelope]

Mark my words.

If I’m victorious on November 3rd, I plan to forgive these taxes and make permanent cuts to the payroll tax. So I’m going to make them all permanent.

Remarks by President Trump in Press Briefing | The White House



Trump’s payroll tax cut, if made permanent, would make that happen even quicker, as soon as 2023, said Nancy Altman, president of Social Security Works, an advocacy organization.

Snip

Notably, this isn’t the first time that a payroll tax holiday has been put in place. President Barack Obama’s administration also implemented payroll tax cuts around 2011, (In 2011 and 2012, the Obama administration cut payroll taxes by 2 percentage points to 4.2 percent. It cost about $800 billion over the course of several years, according to the analysis.) Akabas said, at which point general revenue was used to replace the money in Social Security’s funds.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/10/tru...ld-terminate-social-security-critics-say.html

How does Trump's payroll tax cut plan compare to Obama's
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One knows they can never depend on the stock market.

 

[BluesLegend]

Tax cuts get Dems screaming like stuck pigs. lol Oh the horror of letting people keep THEIR money they earned.

 

[Nostra]

If Barry cut payroll taxes several times, why is SS and Medicare still here?

Seems like a hysterical thread by a TDS afflicted simpleton.

 

[theHawk]

Dems scream about Social Security every election, claiming Republicans will take it away. Yet here we are, still with SS.

Can the OP explain that?

 

[Anathema]

EXCELLENT!!!! The quicker we can get away from Medicare and Social Security the better. I don't want the Government's money. If I can't take care of myself, then it's time for me to check out, permanently.