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[JoeB131]

So Romney spent a lot of money saving a rich guy's daughter.

Would he have made the same effort if it was the daughter of some working slug at AmPad who just got his pink slip because they were trying to make the company look profitable before dumping the stock?

Haters' gonna hate.

Your inability to answer my question is duly noted.

Don't get me wrong, Romney is going to be a great president for the bloodsuckers on Wall Street.

It's just the rest of us who are going to be fucked. Just like those AmPad workers.

 

[Toro]

So Romney spent a lot of money saving a rich guy's daughter.

Would he have made the same effort if it was the daughter of some working slug at AmPad who just got his pink slip because they were trying to make the company look profitable before dumping the stock?

Haters' gonna hate.

Your inability to answer my question is duly noted.

Don't get me wrong, Romney is going to be a great president for the bloodsuckers on Wall Street.

It's just the rest of us who are going to be fucked. Just like those AmPad workers.

Bain Capital companies have hired many, many times more people than they have fired.

If Romney gave away his entire fortune to the indigent, you'd still hate him 'cause haters' gonna hate.

 

[deepthunk]

Trump Threatens to Spend Millions on a Presidential Run - Washington Wire - WSJ

“He’s prepared to finance an independent run for president if he’s not satisfied with the Republican nominee,” says the real estate mogul’s right-hand man, Michael Cohen.

“I already mapped out everything that has to be done to be an effective candidate and what we’d have to do to get on the ballot on all 50 states,” Mr. Cohen says.

The Trump aide declined to elaborate on which GOP candidates would draw Mr. Trump’s ire, and a possible independent challenge. But he did hint that the billionaire wouldn’t run against Newt Gingrich. “He and Newt are close,” Mr. Cohen said.

hooooo-boy.

Then again, in a Obama vs. Romney contest, The Donald would take on a whole new luster.

Lmao. I think Donald trump stands as living proof that intellect has little to do with financial success.

Remember Ross Perot? Democrats everywhere are hoping and praying that old Donald does just that, it would be THEIR trump in the general election.

 

[JoeB131]

Haters' gonna hate.

Your inability to answer my question is duly noted.

Don't get me wrong, Romney is going to be a great president for the bloodsuckers on Wall Street.

It's just the rest of us who are going to be fucked. Just like those AmPad workers.

Bain Capital companies have hired many, many times more people than they have fired.

If Romney gave away his entire fortune to the indigent, you'd still hate him 'cause haters' gonna hate.

Bain Capital did nothing more than make investments. That's the problem with investors. They are parasites who've mistaken themselves for vital organs.

What he did at AmPad is indicative of his character. He was already rich, he had no reason to go in and screw those people to make more money for himself.

Let's review, shall we. He goes into AmPad. He then fires all the union workers and then rehires the younger ones without benefits. The older ones were just screwed. He then used AmPad as a vessal to hold all the debt for their other companies. AmPad had 11 million in debt when Bain took it over, and 400 million when they were done with it. The stock was worth less than 35 cents a share when it declared bankruptcy.

In short, if some AmPad worker's daughter got caught up in a Rave, I don't see this guy going out and mounting a rescue.

 

[Toro]

Your inability to answer my question is duly noted.

Don't get me wrong, Romney is going to be a great president for the bloodsuckers on Wall Street.

It's just the rest of us who are going to be fucked. Just like those AmPad workers.

Bain Capital companies have hired many, many times more people than they have fired.

If Romney gave away his entire fortune to the indigent, you'd still hate him 'cause haters' gonna hate.

Bain Capital did nothing more than make investments. That's the problem with investors. They are parasites who've mistaken themselves for vital organs.

What he did at AmPad is indicative of his character. He was already rich, he had no reason to go in and screw those people to make more money for himself.

Let's review, shall we. He goes into AmPad. He then fires all the union workers and then rehires the younger ones without benefits. The older ones were just screwed. He then used AmPad as a vessal to hold all the debt for their other companies. AmPad had 11 million in debt when Bain took it over, and 400 million when they were done with it. The stock was worth less than 35 cents a share when it declared bankruptcy.

In short, if some AmPad worker's daughter got caught up in a Rave, I don't see this guy going out and mounting a rescue.

Gee, more liberal whining. Surprise, surprise.

Bain Capital was not "just" an investor, RINO. One thing a growth capital firm does is supply knowledge and expertise to a growing company. They make a significant investment in a company or buy it entirely, put members on the board and hire people to either consult with the company or parachute executives into the company.

Since you know little about this, you don't understand the contradiction you've written. You can't say Bain Capital is "just" an investor then slam them for taking an active hand at AmPad.

But keep believing whatever you need to justify your biases 'cause haters' gonna hate.

 

[JoeB131]

Gee, more liberal whining. Surprise, surprise.

Bain Capital was not "just" an investor, RINO. One thing a growth capital firm does is supply knowledge and expertise to a growing company. They make a significant investment in a company or buy it entirely, put members on the board and hire people to either consult with the company or parachute executives into the company.

Since you know little about this, you don't understand the contradiction you've written. You can't say Bain Capital is "just" an investor then slam them for taking an active hand at AmPad.

But keep believing whatever you need to justify your biases 'cause haters' gonna hate.

Liberals and conservatives alike hate you people. You are the one common enemy.

It ain't a left-right thing.

AmPad was a disgrace, and example of everything that is wrong with our modern economy. They took a company that has been around since 1888 and looted it. They took it from 13 facilities to 6, left the shareholders with worthless paper and people without jobs.

And when Ted Kennedy pointed this out, he thrubbed Romney by 17 points.

Because this "smartest guy in the room" shit ain't flying with Americans anymore, guy. We've seen what happens when you guys are left unattended.

 

[Toro]

Gee, more liberal whining. Surprise, surprise.

Bain Capital was not "just" an investor, RINO. One thing a growth capital firm does is supply knowledge and expertise to a growing company. They make a significant investment in a company or buy it entirely, put members on the board and hire people to either consult with the company or parachute executives into the company.

Since you know little about this, you don't understand the contradiction you've written. You can't say Bain Capital is "just" an investor then slam them for taking an active hand at AmPad.

But keep believing whatever you need to justify your biases 'cause haters' gonna hate.

Liberals and conservatives alike hate you people. You are the one common enemy.

It ain't a left-right thing.

AmPad was a disgrace, and example of everything that is wrong with our modern economy. They took a company that has been around since 1888 and looted it. They took it from 13 facilities to 6, left the shareholders with worthless paper and people without jobs.

And when Ted Kennedy pointed this out, he thrubbed Romney by 17 points.

Because this "smartest guy in the room" shit ain't flying with Americans anymore, guy. We've seen what happens when you guys are left unattended.

Really? We're "the one common enemy? Not by the responses on here. And when I watch Republicans on CNBC and Bloomberg TV, they seem pretty supportive of Wall Street.

But you engage in massive confirmation bias as you've repeatedly demonstrated, so I'm sure you believe what you write.

 

[JoeB131]

Really? We're "the one common enemy? Not by the responses on here. And when I watch Republicans on CNBC and Bloomberg TV, they seem pretty supportive of Wall Street.

But you engage in massive confirmation bias as you've repeatedly demonstrated, so I'm sure you believe what you write.

That would be the CNBC that is owned by GE, (or at least was until recently) that is run by Obama's pal, Immelt? THat CNBC? Oh, or Bloomberg TV. The one run by Trans-Fat cop Mikey? That Bloomberg...

Maybe you need to talk to some real working people about what concerns them, rather than listening to a corporate circle jerk.

Obama and Romney are both equally in bed with the bloodsuckers. It's just that Romney is wearing the little red dress with the fishnet stockings.

 

[Toro]

Really? We're "the one common enemy? Not by the responses on here. And when I watch Republicans on CNBC and Bloomberg TV, they seem pretty supportive of Wall Street.

But you engage in massive confirmation bias as you've repeatedly demonstrated, so I'm sure you believe what you write.

That would be the CNBC that is owned by GE, (or at least was until recently) that is run by Obama's pal, Immelt? THat CNBC? Oh, or Bloomberg TV. The one run by Trans-Fat cop Mikey? That Bloomberg...

Maybe you need to talk to some real working people about what concerns them, rather than listening to a corporate circle jerk.

Obama and Romney are both equally in bed with the bloodsuckers. It's just that Romney is wearing the little red dress with the fishnet stockings.

Yeah, you're not a RINO.

lol

That's a whole lotta hate goin' on that I usually hear from the rabid left.

 

[JoeB131]

Yeah, you're not a RINO.

lol

That's a whole lotta hate goin' on that I usually hear from the rabid left.

I see the difference between hard working businesses making stuff and providing services (which IS the Republican base), and the bloodsuckers on Wall Street looking for the easy meat to pick off by screwing people over.

BUt by all means, nominate Romney and watch how fast we see those AmPad workers come out of the woodwork.

 

[Gadawg73]

Yeah, you're not a RINO.

lol

That's a whole lotta hate goin' on that I usually hear from the rabid left.

I see the difference between hard working businesses making stuff and providing services (which IS the Republican base), and the bloodsuckers on Wall Street looking for the easy meat to pick off by screwing people over.

BUt by all means, nominate Romney and watch how fast we see those AmPad workers come out of the woodwork.

Narrow minded.
"Hard working businesses making stuff and providing services" need their stock sold, capital for expansion and short term credit.
Without Wall Street where do they go?
China.
Wall Street has helped keep MORE American business here than anyone.
You have an axe to grind. AmPad under Mead had already announced their 1000 job cut BEFORE Bain bought them. Joe, guess why Mead already had that done before the sale? Employees are ALWAYS the highest variable cost and highest cost period in those businesses. Stock price goes up when you fire folks. Capitalism. Socialism does not work that way.
Ampad had acquired far too much capacity in over 20 locations in 14 states. Bain,answering to stock holders which OWN THE COMPANY under our capitalistic system, closed two plants to increase dividends. Smart move every time as those that receive dividends are 90% elderly and middle class.
One of those plant closures was because of a shut down UNION STRIKE. Imagine that.
Bain's debt accumulation was 300 million and the unions, in their socialistic ranting, cliamed that is what contributed to the demise of AmPad. Silly them, that reperesented less than 6 months revenue there, a pittance of debt, similar to someone making 30K a year taking on a 15K car loan.
The unions know that but that does not jive with their anti capitalistic myths they spread taking $$$ from ALL union members which comprise about 60/40 split Democrat/ Republican while giving 100% to support Democratic candidates and their anti business advertising as illustrated in the recent vote in Ohio.
Top it off the fact is that the AmPad bankruptcy was involuntary, forced on Bain. They didn't want it as Bankers New York Trust Company and other creditors forced it, not Bain.
And this was EIGHT YEARS after Bain's acquisition and a year after Romney left.
And the bankruptcy actually was good but the unions will not tell the truth on it. AmPad now is 20 times larger employee wise than when Bain acquired them. TWENTY TIMES LARGER with over 4000 employees. When they went bankrupt Bain held about 30% of the stock, took a huge hit and loss and you claim that was good for Bain and they wanted to do that?
You must have been reading the Boston Globe which is fully in the pockets of AFL-CIO and spreads lies faster than stink rises off of shit.
In the long run Ampad DID NOT GO OUT OF BUSINESS, it simply changed ownership, it did not lose 385 jobs, IT GAINED 3500.
Out of the hundreds of acquisisitons Bain made only 3 or 4 went sour.
Capitalism. Risk. No one is guaranteed a job or a profit.

 

[Gadawg73]

Your inability to answer my question is duly noted.

Don't get me wrong, Romney is going to be a great president for the bloodsuckers on Wall Street.

It's just the rest of us who are going to be fucked. Just like those AmPad workers.

Bain Capital companies have hired many, many times more people than they have fired.

If Romney gave away his entire fortune to the indigent, you'd still hate him 'cause haters' gonna hate.

Bain Capital did nothing more than make investments. That's the problem with investors. They are parasites who've mistaken themselves for vital organs.

What he did at AmPad is indicative of his character. He was already rich, he had no reason to go in and screw those people to make more money for himself.

Let's review, shall we. He goes into AmPad. He then fires all the union workers and then rehires the younger ones without benefits. The older ones were just screwed. He then used AmPad as a vessal to hold all the debt for their other companies. AmPad had 11 million in debt when Bain took it over, and 400 million when they were done with it. The stock was worth less than 35 cents a share when it declared bankruptcy.

In short, if some AmPad worker's daughter got caught up in a Rave, I don't see this guy going out and mounting a rescue.

Joe, without investors how does ANY business start, expand and survive?
Investors are what makes America great.
MOST investing is speculative and many a hard earned dollar was lost investing.
Mead fired those workers, not Bain.Sorry Joe, your facts are all wrong.
Even under your analysis of 400 million in debt with revenues of 600 million THAT IS EXTREMELY LOW JOE!!!.
Unions ruin business. How many examples do you want?

 

[Truthseeker420]

Yeah, you're not a RINO.

lol

That's a whole lotta hate goin' on that I usually hear from the rabid left.

I see the difference between hard working businesses making stuff and providing services (which IS the Republican base), and the bloodsuckers on Wall Street looking for the easy meat to pick off by screwing people over.

BUt by all means, nominate Romney and watch how fast we see those AmPad workers come out of the woodwork.

 

[JoeB131]

Joe, without investors how does ANY business start, expand and survive?
Investors are what makes America great.
MOST investing is speculative and many a hard earned dollar was lost investing.
Mead fired those workers, not Bain.Sorry Joe, your facts are all wrong.
Even under your analysis of 400 million in debt with revenues of 600 million THAT IS EXTREMELY LOW JOE!!!.
Unions ruin business. How many examples do you want?

This isn't about unions. Unions created a middle class in this society.

This is about bloodsuckers going into a company and looting it, and that's what this Mormon POS did.

Bain went into AmPad and looted it.

The point is, we went from a system of what you say, investment, to outright gambling, and hollowing out the middle class is part of the game.

How's this for an idea. Holding these bloodsuckers accountable. When the company is successful, they should fully enjoy the benefits.

And if they fail, they go to jail.

Instead what we have is, they get huge benefits, the rest of us have to provide the bailouts.

Capitalize profits, socialize risk.

I'll go one further. When Romney was stuffing his pockets with the money he made not paying those AmPad workers, who do you think ended up taking care of them?

The rest of us. Those of us who had to pay taxes for their unemployment insurance.

Romney is slime, and the GOP deserves to lose if they nominate him.

 

[Dot Com]

Really? We're "the one common enemy? Not by the responses on here. And when I watch Republicans on CNBC and Bloomberg TV, they seem pretty supportive of Wall Street.

But you engage in massive confirmation bias as you've repeatedly demonstrated, so I'm sure you believe what you write.

That would be the CNBC that is owned by GE, (or at least was until recently) that is run by Obama's pal, Immelt? THat CNBC? Oh, or Bloomberg TV. The one run by Trans-Fat cop Mikey? That Bloomberg...

Maybe you need to talk to some real working people about what concerns them, rather than listening to a corporate circle jerk.

Obama and Romney are both equally in bed with the bloodsuckers. It's just that Romney is wearing the little red dress with the fishnet stockings.

Yeah, you're not a RINO.

lol

That's a whole lotta hate goin' on that I usually hear from the rabid left.

CNBC is the network that brought us Santelli JoeB

 

[Salt Jones]

Maybe, but not for you...

I could see a situation where Trump could win. He has the resources, he has the name recogniition, and we are at a period where the populace is disgusted by both parties.

How dumb are you? Trump won't run.

YOu know what, I wouldn't put anything past him at this point.

Then you are plain stupid. If he runs, Celebrity Apprentice goes off the air until after the election. That's his only money making venture.

 

[Toro]

I hear The Donald has a new book coming out. It's called

Trump: How to Bankrupt Four Companies, Cheat on Multiple Wives, Wear a Toupee, be a Birfer and Become President.​

 

[JoeB131]

That would be the CNBC that is owned by GE, (or at least was until recently) that is run by Obama's pal, Immelt? THat CNBC? Oh, or Bloomberg TV. The one run by Trans-Fat cop Mikey? That Bloomberg...

Maybe you need to talk to some real working people about what concerns them, rather than listening to a corporate circle jerk.

Obama and Romney are both equally in bed with the bloodsuckers. It's just that Romney is wearing the little red dress with the fishnet stockings.

Yeah, you're not a RINO.

lol

That's a whole lotta hate goin' on that I usually hear from the rabid left.

CNBC is the network that brought us Santelli JoeB

NO doubt. But yet I think you would agree that after that spontaneous bit of proper outrage, Wall Street has done everything it could to redirect the ire away from the crooks on Wall Street who created the mess and onto the government who haphazardly tried to fix it.

And that's the irony. TEA Party folks see government as the problem, OWS sees Wall Street as the problem. The real problem is the incestuous relationship between them.

Just as the founders saw the wisdom of separating Church and State, they need to separate wealth from state.

A man can't understand a problem if his livlihood depends on him not understanding it.

 

[JoeB131]

I hear The Donald has a new book coming out. It's called

Trump: How to Bankrupt Four Companies, Cheat on Multiple Wives, Wear a Toupee, be a Birfer and Become President.​

Wow, you ever notice that anyone who poses a threat to the Weird Mormon Robot immediately gets attacked by Toro....

 

[LoneLaugher]

I hear The Donald has a new book coming out. It's called

Trump: How to Bankrupt Four Companies, Cheat on Multiple Wives, Wear a Toupee, be a Birfer and Become President.​

Wow, you ever notice that anyone who poses a threat to the Weird Mormon Robot immediately gets attacked by Toro....

Trump is not a threat to any politician seeking any office. Toro is not attacking Trump, he is mocking YOU.