Trump to back ceding of Ukrainian territory to Russia as part of peace deal

[rightwinger]

Russia invaded Ukraine on Biden’s watch. It baffles me that you think Putin was afraid of Biden or any Democrat. Putin knows that Democrats are wimps. Everybody, except Democrats, are aware of this.

Putin, like most leaders know that if you flatter Trump he will give you what you want.

TACO

 

[SweetTea]

And it cost him close to a million casualties, most of his tanks and helicopters, his Black Sea Fleet and destroyed his economy.
What Trump calls genius

And he will get something out of a peace deal. If Biden or Harris were still in office, the US would spend many more billions and the war would continue and he would eventually take over all of Ukraine. That is the bottom line.

 

[Correll]

Putin, like most leaders know that if you flatter Trump he will give you what you want.

TACO

You've admitted that this is just a chance for you to spam shit talk.

 

[TimFitz]

And yet, do all their invasions when limp waisted Democrats in office. Go figure.

Which does not change the cowardice of Trump or the duplicity of Putin.

 

[TimFitz]

You've admitted that this is just a chance for you to spam shit talk.

And yet, your TACO hero chickened out, dropped his demands, and adopted Putin’s demands.

your beloved fuhrer disgraced himself and his country.

He is betraying NATO and Ukraine and trying to reward a Russian tyrant for starting his war.

And you’re here cheering for cowardice, and endorsing betrayal.

never has the United States been weaker.

And you cheer for American capitulation.

 

[Correll]

Which does not change the cowardice of Trump or the duplicity of Putin.

Wanting peace is not cowardice.


You guys won on this issue, but that does not excuse shit talk.

 

[Zincwarrior]

No, but he will nibble off a piece at a time

Time honored Russian tradition.

 

[Correll]

And yet, your TACO hero chickened out, dropped his demands, and adopted Putin’s demands.

Beyond failed diplomatic talk, you have your way. THe war continues.

Why are you talking about this so much?

RW. has admitted he just wants a chance to put Trump down for political purposes.

This has nothing to do with the actual issue. for him.

Are you the same?

 

[Couchpotato]

No, but he will nibble off a piece at a time

No he can’t. And the possibility of him trying isn’t a justification for continuing of a war that Ukraine can’t win.

 

[TimFitz]

That's nonsense.

You really think Russia alone can rebuild better and faster than Ukraine/Eruope/America?

Putin’s demands, as endorsed by your fuhrer, include demilitarizing Ukraine.

Trump will give Putin a free hand in Ukraine, as he is doing now.

When Russia renews its war, the Trump administration will do nothing.

 

[Zincwarrior]

The Russian Nazis sent 50 missiles into apartments last night. Peace deal!

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The ONLY way that Ukraine gets to keep the Donbas is if the United States mIlitary enters Ukraine and pushes the Russians out.


How about that C_Clayton_Jones

Is that what you want?

We don't have that capability

 

[TimFitz]

No he can’t. And the possibility of him trying isn’t a justification for continuing of a war that Ukraine can’t win.

I guess you haven’t been around lately.

Putin has just ordered Trump to go tell the Ukranians and NATO to allow Putin to
nibble off a piece of Ukraine”.

Your post is idiotic.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

What's hard to understand about the obvious?

Trump: "...Russia is a very big power, and they're (Ukraine) not."

Russia-Ukraine war: List of key events, day 1,270

• Russian President Vladimir Putin offered to freeze the front lines in Ukraine’s Kherson and Zaporizhia regions if Kyiv ceded full control of Ukraine’s Donetsk and Luhansk regions, during his meeting with United States President Donald Trump on Friday, according to several media outlets, including The New York Times and the AFP and Reuters news agencies.
• Trump informed Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy of the offer during a phone call, but Zelenskyy rejected the demand, Reuters reported
• Trump described the meeting with Putin as 'a great and very successful day in Alaska!' and told Fox News that Ukraine should make a deal to end the war with Russia because 'Russia is a very big power, and they’re not'."

Zelen$ky is just following orders.

 

[SweetTea]

Which does not change the cowardice of Trump or the duplicity of Putin.

Sure it does. They would not have invaded had Trump been President. This all started due to Russia having no respect for Biden.

 

[kyzr]

Trump the Surrender Monkey
Where is my Peace Prize?

Trump doesn't have a dog in that fight dumbass.
He's just trying to negotiate a peace deal to end the war and stop the killing.
NATO and the EU are holding Trump's jacket, yet its in their back yard. You're welcome.

 

[TimFitz]

Wanting peace is not cowardice.


You guys won on this issue, but that does not excuse shit talk.

Wanting peace?

That’s just fluff for his cult’s consumption, as your fuhrer endorses Putin and fights for Russian victory.

Trump isn’t interested in peace, not in Ukraine, and certainly not in Gaza.

 

[kyzr]

Which does not change the cowardice of Trump or the duplicity of Putin.

Liar. Trump stepped up after TWO assassination attempts. He took a bullet already.

 

[kyzr]

And yet, your TACO hero chickened out, dropped his demands, and adopted Putin’s demands.

Liar.

your beloved fuhrer disgraced himself and his country.
He is betraying NATO and Ukraine and trying to reward a Russian tyrant for starting his war.
And you’re here cheering for cowardice, and endorsing betrayal.
never has the United States been weaker.
And you cheer for American capitulation.

America doesn't have a dog in that fight dumbass. Let the EU step up.
Why haven't they given Russia's $300b to Ukraine yet?

How is Trump betraying NATO?
He made NATO countries give 5% of GDP instead of 2%, duh.

 

[TimFitz]

Trump doesn't have a dog in that fight dumbass.
He's just trying to negotiate a peace deal to end the war and stop the killing.
NATO and the EU are holding Trump's jacket, yet it’s in their back yard. You're welcome.

You can’t deny that Trump caved in totally.

You can’t deny that Putin’s demands are now Trump’s demands.

Nor can you deny the terms of those demands which leave Ukraine prone to eventual Russian occupation.

Nor can you deny that this is the worst case of betrayal and cowardice in the history of the US presidency.

No.

So, you’re reduced to trying to make it appeal noble by saying he just wants to stop the killing.

Trump never does anything out of any sense of duty or decency.

He has used his power and influence to aid the Russian invasion at every turn.

And now, he has been instructed to deliver victory to his Russian master.