Trump to back ceding of Ukrainian territory to Russia as part of peace deal

[frigidweirdo]

Let me know when we are gonna do that. I want to finish my bomb shelter.

Putin wouldn't risk it. He'd ask for surrender to save his own life

 

[80zephyr]

Putin wouldn't risk it. He'd ask for surrender to save his own life

Surrender? To be possibly charged as a war criminal? Not gonna happen.

 

[pknopp]

Russia will give back if it is in their own best interest

Their economy can’t sustain indefinite war
They have close to a million casualties
Trump needs to offer NATO membership if Putin refuses a ceasefire
The west needs to make it clear we will increase military aid unless Putin gives back territory

Make the rich pay for it? Or just more and more debt?

 

[frigidweirdo]

Surrender? To be possibly charged as a war criminal? Not gonna happen.

He'd do a deal. He knows there's no appetite to invade Russia. If the threat looked real, then he'd be forced to do something.

 

[TimFitz]

Russia is already the largest country in the world, now they want some land the size of NJ? what for? unless there is something good in the ground this makes no sense

they want all of Ukraine.

For the time being, they will settle for stealing Dombass and regrouping for a fresh invasion.

They also are insisting on a “demilitarized” Ukraine and guarantees that they will be able to March into Kiev without having to worry about NATO.

From there, Putin intends to use Ukraine as a platform to reassert Russia’s dominance of the Easter Europe.

Trump is his poodle.

Americans like to think that Reagan won the Cold War.

Trump is dedicated to unwinding it.

 

[SweetTea]

Biden was not a Surrender Monkey

Right…”Don’t, don’t don’t” or else…NOTHING! Yeah, that strategy really worked well.

 

[TimFitz]

What surrender?
We aren't at war here.

Trump is playing the Neville Chamberlain role.

By playing Putin’s stooge, he is going to try and bully our ally into caving in to the Russian dictator’s demands.

Just as Chamberlain delivered large parts of Czechoslovakia to Hitler.

Within months, Hitler occupied the rest of the country.

This is the scenario Putin intends.

And Trump is debasing his office and his country by playing the useful idiot.

 

[rightwinger]

Right…”Don’t, don’t don’t” or else…NOTHING! Yeah, that strategy really worked well.

Or else was massive military support of Ukraine and crippling sanctions

 

[Zincwarrior]

And now he will claim the Ukrainians don't want peace and blame them for the war.

And the MAGAs will follow.

 

[Couchpotato]

they want all of Ukraine.

For the time being, they will settle for stealing Dombass and regrouping for a fresh invasion.

They also are insisting on a “demilitarized” Ukraine and guarantees that they will be able to March into Kiev without having to worry about NATO.

From there, Putin intends to use Ukraine as a platform to reassert Russia’s dominance of the Easter Europe.

Trump is his poodle.

Americans like to think that Reagan won the Cold War.

Trump is dedicated to unwinding it.

Yes. Russia who cant militarily over take Ukraine is going to invade all of Europe..... Promise.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Seems like the only way to deal with Putin is to send troops and flush him out.

Send armaments and logistics.

 

[SweetTea]

Or else was massive military support of Ukraine and crippling sanctions

And yet Russia invaded anyway. Strange.

 

[TimFitz]

Rare earth minerals.

Also Putin wants to remake the USSR. He can take a part of the Ukraine now, build up his military and get more money and then attack again.

That is his plan.

it worked for Hitler in 1938, so, s=why not?

Especially when you have a coward like Trump to push around.

 

[SweetTea]

That is his plan.

it worked for Hitler in 1938, so, s=why not?

Especially when you have a coward like Trump to push around.

And yet, do all their invasions when limp waisted Democrats in office. Go figure.

 

[TimFitz]

Yes just not by Trump. If Biden had done the exact same thing Trump did the people opposed to this would be hailing it and a good number of the people hailing it would be opposed to it.

A moot point, since Biden was not about to play Neville Chamberlain to Putin’s Hitler.

And your made up supposition that people would have cheered Biden if he abjectly capitulated the way Trump has is totally false.

NoEuropean leader, or other world leader would endorse such cowardice.

American lawns were covered with Ukranian flags in 2022. Then Trump endorsed Russian aggression and his cultists took theirs down and started singing Moscow’s tune.


Trump is betraying the legacy of American world leadership.

The only people cheering for that are the Russians and Trump’s devoted unquestioning cult.

 

[rightwinger]

Yes. Russia who cant militarily over take Ukraine is going to invade all of Europe..... Promise.

No, but he will nibble off a piece at a time

 

[22lcidw]

That is his plan.

it worked for Hitler in 1938, so, s=why not?

Especially when you have a coward like Trump to push around.

Keyboard warriors. We are many.

 

[SweetTea]

A moot point, since Biden was not about to play Neville Chamberlain to Putin’s Hitler.

Russia invaded Ukraine on Biden’s watch. It baffles me that you think Putin was afraid of Biden or any Democrat. Putin knows that Democrats are wimps. Everybody, except Democrats, are aware of this.

 

[rightwinger]

And yet Russia invaded anyway. Strange.

And it cost him close to a million casualties, most of his tanks and helicopters, his Black Sea Fleet and destroyed his economy.
What Trump calls genius

 

[Correll]

they want all of Ukraine.

For the time being, they will settle for stealing Dombass and regrouping for a fresh invasion.

They also are insisting on a “demilitarized” Ukraine and guarantees that they will be able to March into Kiev without having to worry about NATO.

From there, Putin intends to use Ukraine as a platform to reassert Russia’s dominance of the Easter Europe.

Trump is his poodle.

Americans like to think that Reagan won the Cold War.

That's nonsense.

You really think Russia alone can rebuild better and faster than Ukraine/Eruope/America?