Trump tells supporters they're "PAST supporters" and "I don’t want their support anymore!"

[GLASNOST]

3rd, 4th, 5th thread on this rant?

That guy will say anything at all if it criticizes Trump. Only a potato head takes him seriously.

 

[GLASNOST]

.... I support Trump because he has proven he puts America and Americans first ahead of foreign priorities. That has NEVER happened with any recent President GOP or DEM.

Is the MIC not American?

 

[GLASNOST]

Is that all you've got to say? And this is something different, this is about how his supporters will react.

Will they ignore it, or not?

Your response seems to be "yes, they will ignore it"

I am reading your post right now. Does that prove that I am not ignoring you?

 

[Monoculturalist]

I think that Democracy doesn't actually "work" because of blind loyalty and party loyalty. My personal opinion is that Elections should exist within a system that has parties as banned, with candidates elected only on merit, personal achievement and quality of leadership, with an apolitical "review board" consisted of a rotating council of citizens from various fields to judge that person on their leadership for corruption, and if there is corruption found, the President is immediately removed from office. Obviously that's a very vague, and rough statement, but it gives an indication of my views on how this country should be ran. Party Affiliation should be looked down upon with disgust - as treasonous, and unAmerican.


I can easily believe Trump is controlled, since he ran on releasing these files, something went wrong here, somewhere. Its just not adding up.

I favor the neocameralist concept that Curtis Yarvin came up with. A Hoppean minarchist government could work as well. Obviously, we're probably stuck with our current system though.

I do find it funny how the Constitution was designed in a social environment entirely different from our current one. Egalitarianism and equality are the ideals espoused today as if that's what the Founders wanted. An accurate reading of the Founders is that they were elitists. They were just less elitist than monarchists. They were liberal or "progressive" for their time, but they weren't advocates of the modern equality concept for a good reason. Whenever humanity moves closer to that ideal, collapse is imminent, because the masses tend to be fickle and irrational.

That being said, the West's current elites are some of the most despicable and nihilist people that exist. It explains their complete lack of loyalty to any national identity or values. Elites of the past at least had some level of concern about legacy and posterity.

 

[MarathonMike]

The Epstein list is number one. It is about elite Pedophiles in positions of power. How that doesn't rank highly escapes my understanding.

And you put your finger on the key issue. There were many, many people who were associated with Epstein because he was a powerful person. Epstein was convicted of soliciting sex with a minor in 2008 but that does not mean EVERYONE on that list is a pedophile. But as you just pointed out, that will be the assumption.

Jeffrey Epstein was a convicted sex offender by 2008. Why did the powerful stick with him?

The 'Epstein list' has renewed interest in the gilded Rolodex of elites who continued to associate with the disgraced financier.

www.usatoday.com

 

[JanetTheGreat]

I favor the neocameralist concept that Curtis Yarvin came up with. A Hoppean minarchist government could work as well. Obviously, we're probably stuck with our current system though.

I do find it funny how the Constitution was designed in a social environment entirely different from our current one. Egalitarianism and equality are the ideals espoused today as if that's what the Founders wanted. An accurate reading of the Founders is that they were elitists. They were just less elitist than monarchists. They were liberal or "progressive" for their time, but they weren't advocates of the modern equality concept for a good reason. Whenever humanity moves closer to that ideal, collapse is imminent, because the masses tend to be fickle and irrational.

That being said, the West's current elites are some of the most despicable and nihilist people that exist. It explains their complete lack of loyalty to any national identity or values. Elites of the past at least had some level of concern about legacy and posterity.

Fully agree with that. I think that our society is doomed to this cycle of Democrat, Republican, and blaming each side for it until the younger generation is fully able to take root. The fossils that govern our country won't be in power after the next 20 years, but who is to say where we will go in the future. I definitely have a distinct disgust for our political system, and I think the past systems, while they had a lot of issues, were lead by more intelligent and thoughtful people.

 

[Mashmont]

Trump is starting to talk about MAGA Republicans in the same mean, nasty way that he talks about Democrats....the Jeffrey Epstein scandal has definitely got Trump deeply rattled.

I have tried to warn MAGA Republicans that Trump would eventually turn against his most loyal followers the minute they have a serious disagreement with him....and this is proof of that.

From the Washington Post. --

In a social media post, Trump suggested that the GOP skeptics were playing into the hands of Democrats, who he said “stick together like glue,” in contrast with Republicans.

Democrats’ “new SCAM is what we will forever call the Jeffrey Epstein Hoax, and my PAST supporters have bought into this ‘bullshit,’ hook, line, and sinker,” Trump wrote. “They haven’t learned their lesson, and probably never will, even after being conned by the Lunatic Left for 8 long years.”

Trump echoed those comments while speaking to reporters later Wednesday in the Oval Office, saying the “hoax” surrounding Epstein has been “perpetrated by the Democrats and some stupid Republicans, and foolish Republicans fall into the net.”

Trump has spent recent days trying to quell criticism from some of his supporters over his administration’s decision not to release files from the case. Democrats have sought to deepen the divide among Republicans by amplifying the criticism and suggesting Trump has a personal motivation to keep the information from the public, despite his campaign promises last year to release it.

The president argued Wednesday that the Republicans questioning his handling of the case were distracting from the success of his administration in other areas.

“Let these weaklings continue forward and do the Democrats work, don’t even think about talking of our incredible and unprecedented success, because I don’t want their support anymore!” Trump said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/07/16/trump-epstein-republicans-criticize-democrats/

Yawn. We support this great man as always.

 

[JanetTheGreat]

Yawn. We support this great man as always.

Even when he gaslights the supporters who got him elected?

 

[buttercup]

I honestly dont understand why any human being wouldnt want to know if the powerful elite and politicians were using children as sex toys,,

Yup. Any normal person with a brain would care about that.

And in my view, this whole thing sure has been revealing, in regard to the different reactions to it. The reactions make it clear what one puts first.

 

[BluesLegend]

It should be no surprise that no one controls Trump's "messaging". I do my own analysis and draw my own conclusions. My support for Trump was primarily to save America from Kamala, get the Democrats out of power and close the wide open border.
Check Check and Check.
Releasing the Epstein files was waaaaaay down the list for me. But I guess that's just me. I also want to see poor Americans do better and cutting their taxes is a great start.

I give two shits about Epstein, we got Democrats to destroy!

 

[MarathonMike]

I give two shits about Epstein, we got Democrats to destroy!

They are doing a great job by themselves. Like the wise man said "When your opponent is destroying himself, just sit back and watch the show".

 

[Mashmont]

Even when he gaslights the supporters who got him elected?

The outrage is fake. It's leftwingers burning those hats. Democrats are at 19% because of stunts like this. They can't lead. They have nothing better to do.

 

[BluesLegend]

They are doing a great job by themselves. Like the wise man said "When your opponent is destroying himself, just sit back and watch the show".

Yes but I want Dems to suffer more and be humiliated daily.

 

[Mashmont]

Yawn. We support this great man as always.

Buttercup is a leftwinger. I keep forgetting.

 

[JanetTheGreat]

The outrage is fake. It's leftwingers burning those hats. Democrats are at 19% because of stunts like this. They can't lead. They have nothing better to do.

This isn't about Democrats. It is about Trump's supporters.

 

[Mac1958]

HOW ARE YOU PEOPLE NOT INSULTED

 

[Mashmont]

This isn't about Democrats. It is about Trump's supporters.

It’s not. it’s made up. Trump supporters don’t care about Epstein. We care about all the great things Trump is doing to help the country. This stuff you’re talking about is wishful thinking

 

[Mac1958]

This isn't about Democrats. It is about Trump's supporters.

And it has ALWAYS been about them. And his congressional enablers.

 

[buttercup]

Buttercup is a leftwinger. I keep forgetting.

Nice ad hom, but trying to bully me into silence by lying about me isn't going to work.

If you don't like people giving laughies to your posts, maybe you shouldn't idolize any politician, let alone one who is one of the least deserving of that worship and devotion, if you really knew what he's about.

 

[progressive hunter]

Yup. Any normal person with a brain would care about that.

And in my view, this whole thing sure has been revealing, in regard to the different reactions to it. The reactions make it clear what one puts first.

would be funny of trump is making the dems force him to release it after them not releasing it for yrs,,