Trump tells supporters they're "PAST supporters" and "I don’t want their support anymore!"

There isn't any trust left when Trump, the man who ran on releasing these files is gaslighting his followers by saying it is a Hoax, while standing next to the guy (Howard Lutnick) who was Epstein's Neighbor, while laughing.
I know what you mean. I'm just saying Vance basically has 2 options: play along until 2028, or resign but effectively end his political career as a result. I could see him biding his time to run in 2028 on a platform of actual transparency. Currently, he doesn't have much power, since VP is very limited in its privileges.
 
He doesn't even want his own followers questioning the Epstein files, he thinks his followers are stupid and weak for questioning him. How can you support him after that he has insulted the people who voted for him?
How can we assume the Epstein Files have not been tampered with by a corrupt FBI who have a history of doing anything they can to destroy Trump and anyone associated with him? The Democrats and the FBI have been involved with complete fabrication of a false Russian Collusion dossier, lied about the Hunter Biden laptop, and many other examples of their dedication to the Democratic Party.
 
I know what you mean. I'm just saying Vance basically has 2 options: play along until 2028, or resign but effectively end his political career as a result. I could see him biding his time to run in 2028 on a platform of actual transparency. Currently, he doesn't have much power, since VP is very limited in its privileges.
Fair enough, that is an arguable position to make.
How can we assume the Epstein Files have not been tampered with by a corrupt FBI who have a history of doing anything they can to destroy Trump and anyone associated with him? The Democrats and the FBI have been involved with complete fabrication of a false Russian Collusion dossier, lied about the Hunter Biden laptop, and many other examples of their dedication to the Democratic Party.
Then why all the gaslighting, why say it is a hoax? Why isn't HE saying that "We don't have the files because the previous Administration Deleted them." , instead of gaslighting his followers, and calling them weak?
 
Fair enough, that is an arguable position to make.

Then why all the gaslighting, why say it is a hoax? Why isn't HE saying that "We don't have the files because the previous Administration Deleted them." , instead of gaslighting his followers, and calling them weak?
It should be no surprise that no one controls Trump's "messaging". I do my own analysis and draw my own conclusions. My support for Trump was primarily to save America from Kamala, get the Democrats out of power and close the wide open border.
Check Check and Check.
Releasing the Epstein files was waaaaaay down the list for me. But I guess that's just me. I also want to see poor Americans do better and cutting their taxes is a great start.
 
It should be no surprise that no one controls Trump's "messaging". I do my own analysis and draw my own conclusions. My support for Trump was primarily to save America from Kamala, get the Democrats out of power and close the wide open border.
Check Check and Check.
Releasing the Epstein files was waaaaaay down the list for me. But I guess that's just me. I also want to see poor Americans do better and cutting their taxes is a great start.
The Epstein list is number one. It is about elite Pedophiles in positions of power. How that doesn't rank highly escapes my understanding.
 
It should be no surprise that no one controls Trump's "messaging". I do my own analysis and draw my own conclusions. My support for Trump was primarily to save America from Kamala, get the Democrats out of power and close the wide open border.
Check Check and Check.
Releasing the Epstein files was waaaaaay down the list for me. But I guess that's just me. I also want to see poor Americans do better and cutting their taxes is a great start.
Trump has done some good, but his ego is getting in his way at this point. He may not like the fact that a lot of his base is focused on the files, but he did campaign on the issue quite a bit. If he had planned on downplaying the files while in office, he should've done that on the campaign trail as well. It's rather myopic for him to think that voters will just completely pivot at his whim.
 
Of course President Trump is pissed off and frustrated - his agenda has been completely and totally railroaded by

immigration - corrupt federal judges
Ukraine - Lindsey Graham and the CIA
ME - Netanyahu , the Mossad and the CIA

Ah, the good ol' "It's someone else's fault".
 
Trump has done some good, but his ego is getting in his way at this point. He may not like the fact that a lot of his base is focused on the files, but he did campaign on the issue quite a bit. If he had planned on downplaying the files while in office, he should've done that on the campaign trail as well. It's rather myopic for him to think that voters will just completely pivot at his whim.
I honestly don't remember him making a big deal about them, but I live in a border state and probably suffered from some level of fixation on closing the &&**&#@#!!!! border. Oh and making sure that the dumbest freaking candidate in history didn't become the first female pseudo Black President.
 

I would post the post from Truth Social, but in pure "I want this platform to be free speech", you need to sign in or create an account just to see him posts, and I can't be bothered. So I got it from somewhere else.

“Their new SCAM is what we will forever call the Jeffrey Epstein Hoax, and my PAST supporters have bought into this ‘bullshit,’ hook, line, and sinker,” Trump said. “They haven’t learned their lesson, and probably never will, even after being conned by the Lunatic Left for 8 long years.”

"“Let these weaklings continue forward and do the Democrats work, don’t even think about talking of our incredible and unprecedented success, because I don’t want their support anymore!” Trump added."

Now, we all remember the "I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK?" quote, where he basically told his supporters how stupid they were, way back before he became president, how will they take this one, being told they're former supporters of his and he doesn't like them any more because they want the Epstein files released.

Will they turn on him, or just call it a joke, like they've done so many times in the past?

A bit hard to ignore this one, but that's what I thought before too.
I honestly dont understand any alleged MAGAs who may be obsessed with the Epstein files

Of course its human nature to be curious

But thats as far as it goes

There is little to be gained by dragging the names into the public
 
A Woke Right, and Woke Left. Both are destructive idiots.
I would argue the significant percentage of humanity that blindly follows parties is a great argument against democracy, or at the very least, an argument in favor of limited suffrage instead of universal suffrage. The Founders weren't in favor of universal suffrage, for example. Granted, I'm not saying the limits should be gender or race-based.
 
The Epstein list is number one. It is about elite Pedophiles in positions of power. How that doesn't rank highly escapes my understanding.

And blackmail. Which obviously people on any side should care about, if elected officials who are supposed to represent us are compromised and being controlled.

As you probably know, Whitney Webb has done a lot of work on this topic.

 
I honestly dont understand any alleged MAGAs who may be obsessed with the Epstein files

Of course its human nature to be curious

But thats as far as it goes

There is little to be gained by dragging the names into the public
I honestly dont understand why any human being wouldnt want to know if the powerful elite and politicians were using children as sex toys,,
 
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I honestly don't remember him making a big deal about them, but I live in a border state and probably suffered from some level of fixation on closing the &&**&#@#!!!! border. Oh and making sure that the dumbest freaking candidate in history didn't become the first female pseudo Black President.
To be clear, I would've voted for a ham sandwich over Kamala. We were basically boxed into voting for Trump.
 
I honestly dont understand any alleged MAGAs who may be obsessed with the Epstein files

Of course its human nature to be curious

But thats as far as it goes

There is little to be gained by dragging the names into the public
Buttercup summed up why it's important. It would reveal who has been compromised. Granted, that might be the entirety of Congress at this point.
 
I would argue the significant percentage of humanity that blindly follows parties is a great argument against democracy, or at the very least, an argument in favor of limited suffrage instead of universal suffrage. The Founders weren't in favor of universal suffrage, for example. Granted, I'm not saying the limits should be gender or race-based.
I think that Democracy doesn't actually "work" because of blind loyalty and party loyalty. My personal opinion is that Elections should exist within a system that has parties as banned, with candidates elected only on merit, personal achievement and quality of leadership, with an apolitical "review board" consisted of a rotating council of citizens from various fields to judge that person on their leadership for corruption, and if there is corruption found, the President is immediately removed from office. Obviously that's a very vague, and rough statement, but it gives an indication of my views on how this country should be ran. Party Affiliation should be looked down upon with disgust - as treasonous, and unAmerican.

And blackmail. Which obviously people on any side should care about, if elected officials who are supposed to represent us are compromised and being controlled.

As you probably know, Whitney Webb has done a lot of work on this topic.


I can easily believe Trump is controlled, since he ran on releasing these files, something went wrong here, somewhere. Its just not adding up.
 

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