Trump targets homeless problem

[d0gbreath]

And leaving them on the streets and in the subways with just enough help to barely survive is better?

It's called freedom. That's something that our current administration is completely against.

 

[martybegan]

It's called freedom. That's something that our current administration is completely against.

you don't get to scream freedom if the government has to pay to keep you from slowly killing yourself.

 

[my2¢]

These folks don't belong camping on the streets, it's time to bring back the county poor houses and farms.

 

[d0gbreath]

you don't get to scream freedom if the government has to pay to keep you from slowly killing yourself.

If you can't scream freedom, you're better off dead.

 

[AntonToo]

I've been advocating for this for years. Most of the homeless would be in some sort of mental institution or treatment center had we not shut most of them down 50 years ago. I understand the reason behind the closures, but that was the wrong approach. The abuse should have been dealt with by increasing oversight and adequate funding for these facilities. Closing them simply threw these people out onto the streets and now they live in squalor in tents and cardboard boxes in alley ways or right on the public sidewalks. They've destroyed entire urban neighborhoods.

Place them back in the institutions where they belong. Many of these people, with the right medication, could get their head straight and function in normal society again. We also have to ensure they receive continued support upon discharge so they don't end up back in the same situation again.

ZERO - that's the number of dollars in any taxes or tax-cuts Republicans will agree to give up to pay for this "big government" spending.

 

[d0gbreath]

These folks don't belong camping on the streets, it's time to bring back the county poor houses and farms.

Lockups with different names. How cute.

 

[Correll]

ZERO - that's the number of dollars in tax-cuts Republicans will agree to give up to pay for this spending.

So, if it was funded, then you would support it?


That is your true complaint?

 

[Hellbilly]

You don't know that. This is not the 1960s anymore. Things are far more transparent today, largely due to the technology, not to mention a will to not repeat the errors of the past. That can be prevented with proper oversight.

Doing nothing isn't fixing the problem. It's making it worse.

The government put the homeless voucher program in place then took it away basically saying **** you to poor people.
Same thing they did with my ancestors. Land stolen. Children stolen. Every treaty broken.
This government sucks.

 

[Correll]

Lockups with different names. How cute.

If they are incapable of functing in society themselves, yes, it would be "Cute".

Especially compared to them dying on the streets.

 

[AntonToo]

So, if it was funded, then you would support it?


That is your true complaint?

I would support it if done right.

In the past these institutions were often left without proper funding and became true hell holes.

 

[Correll]

The government put the homeless voucher program in place then took it away basically saying **** you to poor people.
Same thing they did with my ancestors. Land stolen. Children stolen. Every treaty broken.
This government sucks.

So, where you planning on moving to?

 

[Hellbilly]

So, where you planning on moving to?

I’m going to set my tipi up in your front yard.
Any more stupid questions?

 

[d0gbreath]

If they are incapable of functing in society themselves, yes, it would be "Cute".

Especially compared to them dying on the streets.

I'm not going to believe for a second that you care about them dying in the streets. You only care about getting them locked up, out of sight, out of mind.

 

[AntonToo]

I'm not going to believe for a second that you care about them dying in the streets. You only care about getting them locked up, out of sight, out of mind.

Even without making this personally about OP, that was the reality of those institutions and why they were chronically underfunded.

 

[Donald H]

When all else fails, and it will, Fascism has a failsafe answer..

Forced steriilizatiion or lethal injection worked for Nazi Germany.

It becomes a situation in which the crime is invented to suit the punishment.

 

[struth]

It's called freedom. That's something that our current administration is completely against.

Letting people suffer on the streets isn’t freedom

You cold hearted monster

 

[Foxfyre]

This is huge. The status quo, where the goal was to get these people back into society, has clearly been a massive failure.

I have been supporting this idea for years. It is cleary the right answer. THis could save thousands of lives. And reclaim our cities.

Hell,l maybe bring back the 24 hour donut shop and grocery stores.


Discuss.

Fact Sheet: President Donald J. Trump Takes Action to End Crime and Disorder on America’s Streets

ENDING VAGRANCY AND RESTORING ORDER: Today, President Donald J. Trump signed an Executive Order to restore order to American cities and remove vagrant

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One of the most inhumane things the developing 'woke' people ever forced on this country was to require the cities and states to turn people out of mental institutions where they had a bed, three squares a day, medical care and essentially forced them to live on the street.

This is very good news. Yes, reopening or establishing mental institutions or other facilities where people incapable of caring for themselves can be confined and cared for will be expensive. But I suspect far less expensive than dealing with allowing them to subsist in an environment unacceptable in a civilized world.

We also need to get all the illegals out of subsidized housing to make room for those who are still competent functioning citizens but need some help through no fault of their own or due to circumstances they cannot change.

There is good justification for some social program that actually help people. Never justification for social programs that make government dependents out of otherwise productive people.

 

[Hellbilly]

Letting people suffer on the streets isn’t freedom

You cold hearted monster

Your solution is to lock them away.

 

[there4eyeM]

It is certainly not humane to leave these people out on the streets. It is certainly a perversion of the concept of free will and intelligent choice to pretend they are "free". Some new approach is necessary, one that preserves respect while acknowledging that there are those that need protection from themselves as well as from those who would exploit them.

 

[Hellbilly]

It is certainly not humane to leave these people out on the streets. It is certainly a perversion of the concept of free will and intelligent choice to pretend they are "free". Some new approach is necessary, one that preserves respect while acknowledging that there are those that need protection from themselves as well as from those who would exploit them.

What should happen to them?