trump says there's "no price tag" for deportation.

"We obviously have to make the border strong and powerful and, and we have to — at the same time, we want people to come into our country," he said. "And you know, I’m not somebody that says, 'No, you can’t come in.' We want people to come in."

As a candidate, Trump had repeatedly vowed to carry out the "largest deportation effort in American history." Asked about the cost of his plan, he said, "It’s not a question of a price tag. It’s not — really, we have no choice. When people have killed and murdered, when drug lords have destroyed countries, and now they’re going to go back to those countries because they’re not staying here. There is no price tag."


And yet there is a price tag. Not only for the economy (removing that many workers is inflationary because it will drive up the price of labor. Plus it will reduce GDP), but for the government.

How much could it cost?​

Vice President-elect JD Vance has estimated Trump's actions could result in 1 million people being removed from the country each year, a pace the nonpartisan American Immigration Council estimated would cost about $88 billion annually. To deport all the people in the U.S. without authorization would take about a decade and cost nearly a trillion dollars, the council said.

I guess the thrill he got from hearing the screams of immigrant children after being separated from their parents wasn't quite satisfying enough. Now he'll be breaking up families who have lived here, yes illegally, for many years. I personally know someone here in CO who is married to an illegal alien. That marriage is over if the ACLU isn't able to stop Don in the courts.

And yet there is a price tag. Not only for the economy (removing that many workers is inflationary because it will drive up the price of labor.

Deporting illegal aliens will raise wages for Americans?

1 million people being removed from the country each year, a pace the nonpartisan American Immigration Council estimated would cost about $88 billion annually.
I'll drive a busload of illegal aliens to Mexico for a lot less than $88,000 each.

I guess the thrill he got from hearing the screams of immigrant children after being separated from their parents wasn't quite satisfying enough.

That's awful! If I had my way, the children would be deported immediately
with their parents. Same day.

I personally know someone here in CO who is married to an illegal alien. That marriage is over if the ACLU isn't able to stop Don in the courts.

It's horrible when criminals are separated from their spouse. Of course, if it's really love, they could move to the shithole country.
 
"We obviously have to make the border strong and powerful and, and we have to — at the same time, we want people to come into our country," he said. "And you know, I’m not somebody that says, 'No, you can’t come in.' We want people to come in."

As a candidate, Trump had repeatedly vowed to carry out the "largest deportation effort in American history." Asked about the cost of his plan, he said, "It’s not a question of a price tag. It’s not — really, we have no choice. When people have killed and murdered, when drug lords have destroyed countries, and now they’re going to go back to those countries because they’re not staying here. There is no price tag."


And yet there is a price tag. Not only for the economy (removing that many workers is inflationary because it will drive up the price of labor. Plus it will reduce GDP), but for the government.

How much could it cost?​

Vice President-elect JD Vance has estimated Trump's actions could result in 1 million people being removed from the country each year, a pace the nonpartisan American Immigration Council estimated would cost about $88 billion annually. To deport all the people in the U.S. without authorization would take about a decade and cost nearly a trillion dollars, the council said.

I guess the thrill he got from hearing the screams of immigrant children after being separated from their parents wasn't quite satisfying enough. Now he'll be breaking up families who have lived here, yes illegally, for many years. I personally know someone here in CO who is married to an illegal alien. That marriage is over if the ACLU isn't able to stop Don in the courts.
Enforcing law is expensive..

But maybe we can relocate money from harris fund for illegals to do this
 
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Would I risk life and limb to get my family away from these people? Yes, I'd do almost anything to get into the US.

Yet we heard ZERO from Trump and his loyal MAGATS about reducing the supply of weapons across the border, not a peep. There's very clear evidence showing the relationship between the volume of guns getting over the border and the consequential volume of illegal aliens escaping the increasing violence.

Trump is a scumbag, him and many prior to him CREATED the surge in illegal aliens, they could clamp down hard on the weapons smuggling and supply and that would reduce the illegal alien problem, or could have if it he'd done it in 2016.

They bought rifles. Wow.
 
The constitution uses two descriptions.
The people
The citizens
The 5th, 6th, and 14th cited, apply to "the people" which means anyone physically present in the United States.

Nearly all of the constitution applies to "persons", meaning everyone (citizens, travelers, illegal immigrants).

Nope. If you can't vote in this country, you're not a citizen. The 14th Amendment states "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside." Illegal immigrants were not born or naturalized in this country, therefore they cannot vote. Nor are they allowed by US Code to posses firearms, so they are not protected by the Second Amendment. The Supremacy Clause (Article VI, Clause 2) that establishes that the Constitution, as well as federal laws made pursuant to it, and treaties made under its authority, constitute the "supreme Law of the Land."

"This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding."
 
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Would I risk life and limb to get my family away from these people? Yes, I'd do almost anything to get into the US.

Yet we heard ZERO from Trump and his loyal MAGATS about reducing the supply of weapons across the border, not a peep. There's very clear evidence showing the relationship between the volume of guns getting over the border and the consequential volume of illegal aliens escaping the increasing violence.

Trump is a scumbag, him and many prior to him CREATED the surge in illegal aliens, they could clamp down hard on the weapons smuggling and supply and that would reduce the illegal alien problem, or could have if it he'd done it in 2016.

Meanwhile, Obama's AG and the BATF put over 2,000 firearms in the hands of Mexican drug cartels, one of which was traced to the murder of two US Border Patrol agents.

Were they ever held accountable? Nope.
 
Here is some of my taxpayer money to deport illegals in the country who are criminals.
 
"We obviously have to make the border strong and powerful and, and we have to — at the same time, we want people to come into our country," he said. "And you know, I’m not somebody that says, 'No, you can’t come in.' We want people to come in."

As a candidate, Trump had repeatedly vowed to carry out the "largest deportation effort in American history." Asked about the cost of his plan, he said, "It’s not a question of a price tag. It’s not — really, we have no choice. When people have killed and murdered, when drug lords have destroyed countries, and now they’re going to go back to those countries because they’re not staying here. There is no price tag."


And yet there is a price tag. Not only for the economy (removing that many workers is inflationary because it will drive up the price of labor. Plus it will reduce GDP), but for the government.

How much could it cost?​

Vice President-elect JD Vance has estimated Trump's actions could result in 1 million people being removed from the country each year, a pace the nonpartisan American Immigration Council estimated would cost about $88 billion annually. To deport all the people in the U.S. without authorization would take about a decade and cost nearly a trillion dollars, the council said.

I guess the thrill he got from hearing the screams of immigrant children after being separated from their parents wasn't quite satisfying enough. Now he'll be breaking up families who have lived here, yes illegally, for many years. I personally know someone here in CO who is married to an illegal alien. That marriage is over if the ACLU isn't able to stop Don in the courts.
America first
I love america.
 
Case by case, and when it comes to illegals only in the rarest circumstances. Pretty simple litmus test, did it apply to the Indians prior to the reservations? If not, it doesn't apply to illegal aliens. Indians were in our territory yet were not considered the 'people'.
Did you skip history class. Remember the 3/5ths compromise, and indians not taxed.
They were not considered to be "people".
And even now Indian reservations are "foreign" territory. Where the law is applied by treaty.

Federal law recognizes a special kind of Indian sovereign authority to govern themselves, subject to an overriding federal authority. Indian tribes are considered by federal law to be "domestic, dependent nations." Congress enacted this sovereign authority to protect Indian groups from state authority.
 
The Preamble is titled We The People…not We The People Of Mexico. The Constitution is not an international document, it does not extend to the citizens of other nations.
Put simply, think "When in Rome".
Anyone within our borders are subject to our laws, and our rule of law aka Constitution.
The only exception are foreign diplomats, counsels and leaders.

The US census is in the constitution, and the US Census counts illegal aliens among the population.


The resident population counts include all people (citizens and noncitizens) who are living in the United States at the time of the census.
 
Nope. If you can't vote in this country, you're not a citizen. The 14th Amendment states "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside." Illegal immigrants were not born or naturalized in this country, therefore they cannot vote. Nor are they allowed by US Code to posses firearms, so they are not protected by the Second Amendment. The Supremacy Clause (Article VI, Clause 2) that establishes that the Constitution, as well as federal laws made pursuant to it, and treaties made under its authority, constitute the "supreme Law of the Land."

"This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding."
I didn't say illegal can vote. I said they had the protections of most of the constitution, and all it's amendments, except those applicable to citizens.
They are counted in the census, and they have access to our courts, and are protected by due process..
 
Did you skip history class. Remember the 3/5ths compromise, and indians not taxed.
They were not considered to be "people".
And even now Indian reservations are "foreign" territory. Where the law is applied by treaty.

Federal law recognizes a special kind of Indian sovereign authority to govern themselves, subject to an overriding federal authority. Indian tribes are considered by federal law to be "domestic, dependent nations." Congress enacted this sovereign authority to protect Indian groups from state authority.
Illegal aliens are citizens of their country of origin, with no special protections or privileges. They are not the 'people', 'person' or citizen within the Constitution. They in no way are entitled to the full suite of rights citizens enjoy.
 
Illegal aliens are citizens of their country of origin, with no special protections or privileges. They are not the 'people', 'person' or citizen within the Constitution. They in no way are entitled to the full suite of rights citizens enjoy.
The constitution grants them use of our courts, which means they get all the same privileges and immunities the courts grant to its citizens.
 
They in no way are entitled to the full suite of rights citizens enjoy.
They don't get to vote. They don't get to serve on a jury.
But they enjoy everything else the constitution has to offer, such as paying Taxes, and buying property, and requiring a warrant to search their homes, and an indictment by a grand jury to be tried for serious crimes.

Question: Do Miranda rights apply to non-US citizens?
Answer: The Constitution applies to people within the United States, unless they have some sort of diplomatic immunity. Otherwise, the same rights apply that would apply to citizens.
 
The constitution grants them use of our courts, which means they get all the same privileges and immunities the courts grant to its citizens.
That is easily avoided, simply declaring them a public threat, which they are, opens them up to completely different standards depending on which authority is used.
 
He learned long ago they don't hold him accountable for broken promises..............or anything really. Including an insurrection.
The insurrection bit is right up there with the pee tapes.

Not to worry, all J6 political prisoners will be pardoned in two short months.
 
That is easily avoided, simply declaring them a public threat, which they are, opens them up to completely different standards depending on which authority is used.
You mean public threats like enemy combatants. Those taking up arms against US soldiers.

Guess what. Even they have constitutional rights.

In the 2008 case Boumediene v. Bush, the Court rejected this argument in a 5-4 opinion, and ruled that the constitutional privilege of habeas extends to Guantanamo detainees
 
The Sixth Amendment of the Constitution guarantees the right to legal counsel in all criminal proceedings. Under this amendment, “In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall…have the assistance of counsel for his defense.” If an undocumented immigrant faces deportation, they have the right to legal representation.
 
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