trump says there's "no price tag" for deportation.

[meaner gene]

Every time they try, demtwats accuse them of starving the poor and pushing grandma off a cliff.

Yet they only try under democrats in the white house.

 

[meaner gene]

They had immigration, they had laws to remove unwanted aliens. Clearly not everyone here was considered a citizen, nor were aliens afforded the same rights as citizens.

Wrong again. There weren't any immigration laws for the United States until 1790. Well after the Constitution was written.

The first major piece of U.S. legislation, the Naturalization Act, was signed in 1790, and it began the nation's first naturalization process by providing access to U.S. citizenship to free white immigrants, mostly people from western Europe, who had lived in the U.S. for at least two years and their children.

Not to mention it wasn't until 1837 that a president was a natural born citizen.

 

[Rawley]

The $1.4 wasn't an expenditure. It didn't require any spending. No outlays from the treasury.

Really? So the colleges are going to give us back the $1.4 Trillon? WTF Ratty? even you are not that dim.

 

[Lisa558]

The $1.4 wasn't an expenditure. It didn't require any spending. No outlays from the treasury.

Deporting illegals takes actual payments from the treasury.

It was $1.4 that was DUE to come into the Treasury, and so yes….thats a loss of $1.4.

 

[boedicca]

They had immigration, they had laws to remove unwanted aliens. Clearly not everyone here was considered a citizen, nor were aliens afforded the same rights as citizens.

We also did not have a welfare system back then. People coming here had to support themselves. Welfare systems and open borders are mutually exclusive.

 

[meaner gene]

Really? So the colleges are going to give us back the $1.4 Trillon? WTF Ratty? even you are not that dim.

You're falling into the rat hole of stupidity again.
The difference is between ripping up an IOU, and having to take money out of your wallet.

 

[Lisa558]

We also did not have a welfare system back then. People coming here had to support themselves. Welfare systems and open borders are mutually exclusive.

Yes. When my grandparents and great-grandparents came in legally through Ellis Island (I have their processing papers), they ended sharing tenement rooms with other poor immigrants while they slaves in sweatshops.

They did NOT get put up in hotels, get $350 a week for food, and then have babies they went right onto welfare.

 

[Lisa558]

You're falling into the rat hole of stupidity again.
The difference is between ripping up an IOU, and having to take money out of your wallet.

You’re being obtuse. We, the people, were due $1.4T in loan repayments, and Biden wiped that out. We are out the money due us.

Libs still cannot understand that there’s no free lunch.

 

[Meathead]

"We obviously have to make the border strong and powerful and, and we have to — at the same time, we want people to come into our country," he said. "And you know, I’m not somebody that says, 'No, you can’t come in.' We want people to come in."

As a candidate, Trump had repeatedly vowed to carry out the "largest deportation effort in American history." Asked about the cost of his plan, he said, "It’s not a question of a price tag. It’s not — really, we have no choice. When people have killed and murdered, when drug lords have destroyed countries, and now they’re going to go back to those countries because they’re not staying here. There is no price tag."

Trump says there's 'no price tag' for his mass deportation plan

In an exclusive interview with NBC News, Trump talked about his campaign promise to carry out the largest deportation of immigrants in U.S. history, regardless of cost.

www.nbcnews.com

And yet there is a price tag. Not only for the economy (removing that many workers is inflationary because it will drive up the price of labor. Plus it will reduce GDP), but for the government.

How much could it cost?​

Vice President-elect JD Vance has estimated Trump's actions could result in 1 million people being removed from the country each year, a pace the nonpartisan American Immigration Council estimated would cost about $88 billion annually. To deport all the people in the U.S. without authorization would take about a decade and cost nearly a trillion dollars, the council said.

Trump has promised mass deportations. Can he do it in his 2nd term as president?

Former President Donald Trump could be poised to deliver on one of his most fervent campaign promises: to deport millions of undocumented immigrants.

www.usatoday.com

I guess the thrill he got from hearing the screams of immigrant children after being separated from their parents wasn't quite satisfying enough. Now he'll be breaking up families who have lived here, yes illegally, for many years. I personally know someone here in CO who is married to an illegal alien. That marriage is over if the ACLU isn't able to stop Don in the courts.

Agreed

 

[Rogue AI]

Wrong again. There weren't any immigration laws for the United States until 1790. Well after the Constitution was written.

The first major piece of U.S. legislation, the Naturalization Act, was signed in 1790, and it began the nation's first naturalization process by providing access to U.S. citizenship to free white immigrants, mostly people from western Europe, who had lived in the U.S. for at least two years and their children.

Not to mention it wasn't until 1837 that a president was a natural born citizen.

There are no direct laws in the Constitution, not sure what you are whining about. Given the fact there was a standard, having lived there for two years, those who didn't were classified as something else. Non-citizens, not afforded the full suite of rights held by citizens. You are not making a case for your point, whatever that might be.

 

[Rawley]

You're falling into the rat hole of stupidity again.
The difference is between ripping up an IOU, and having to take money out of your wallet.

So that $1.4 Trillion never came out of the Treasury, huh? Dumb as a stump.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The $1.4 wasn't an expenditure. It didn't require any spending. No outlays from the treasury.

Deporting illegals takes actual payments from the treasury.

The $1.4 wasn't an expenditure. It didn't require any spending. No outlays from the treasury.

If your bank hands you the title to your car or home before you paid it off,
they didn't hand you cash, they handed you an asset they owned.
Should a President be allowed to hand out government assets to voting blocs
with no input from Congress?

Can Trump hand over Edwards Air Force Base to Elon Musk? It wouldn't require any spending. No outlays from the treasury.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Wrong again. You have no concept of economics.
Whether from savings or credit, you don't pay the piper right away. And people live in the present.

My concept of economics is far beyond yours.
I know, that's a low bar.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You're falling into the rat hole of stupidity again.
The difference is between ripping up an IOU, and having to take money out of your wallet.

If I hand you a $20 or rip up your IOU for $20, I'm out $20.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Actually they promised to lower them, and they did.

The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB) has finalized a rule to combat excessive credit card late fees. Starting in May 2024, the typical late fee will drop from $32 to $8.

Pay attention next time.

Liar
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[meaner gene]

There are no direct laws in the Constitution, not sure what you are whining about. Given the fact there was a standard, having lived there for two years, those who didn't were classified as something else. Non-citizens, not afforded the full suite of rights held by citizens. You are not making a case for your point, whatever that might be.

Actually the Constitution does have direct laws enumerated in it. Such as:
No Person held to Service or Labour in one State, under the Laws thereof, escaping into another, shall, in Consequence of any Law or Regulation therein, be discharged from such Service or Labour, but shall be delivered up on Claim of the Party to whom such Service or Labour may be due.

 

[meaner gene]

So that $1.4 Trillion never came out of the Treasury, huh? Dumb as a stump.

Correct, none of the $1.4 trillion came out of the treasury.

As opposed to, if Trump wants to deport illegals, he will need to take about $1 trillion from the treasury in order to pay for it.;

 

[meaner gene]

Should a President be allowed to hand out government assets to voting blocs
with no input from Congress?

You mean like pardons?.

They have considerable monetary value

 

[DonGlock26]

When have republicans tried to lower the federal gov't spending when a republican was in the white house?

ANS: never.

I guess the answer is they haven't, based on your evasion. So, any progressive talk of reducing the national debt is just political talking points.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You mean like pardons?.

They have considerable monetary value

No, I mean like loan forgiveness and real estate.