trump says the US will join the EU in security agreement for Ukraine, after a peace deal

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Trump envoy Steve Witkoff, who took part in the talks Friday at a military base in Alaska, said it “was the first time we had ever heard the Russians agree to that” and called it “game-changing.”

“We were able to win the following concession: that the United States could offer Article 5-like protection, which is one of the real reasons why Ukraine wants to be in NATO," Witkoff told CNN's “State of the Union.”

But reminder that this was also the man who gave Putin 50 days to reach a peace deal or he would slam sanctions on Russia. It has taken him a while, but he is finally getting around to blaming Ukraine for not given land stolen by Putin. That is where we are headed. trump would gladly give all of Ukraine to Putin, if he could secure his coveted peace prize.
 

Trump envoy Steve Witkoff, who took part in the talks Friday at a military base in Alaska, said it “was the first time we had ever heard the Russians agree to that” and called it “game-changing.”

“We were able to win the following concession: that the United States could offer Article 5-like protection, which is one of the real reasons why Ukraine wants to be in NATO," Witkoff told CNN's “State of the Union.”

But reminder that this was also the man who gave Putin 50 days to reach a peace deal or he would slam sanctions on Russia. It has taken him a while, but he is finally getting around to blaming Ukraine for not given land stolen by Putin. That is where we are headed. trump would gladly give all of Ukraine to Putin, if he could secure his coveted peace prize.
Gave up completely on a cease fire too. And even backed out of the secondary sanctions. Basically he gave Putin everything he wanted. Likely up to and including anal.
 
Gave up completely on a cease fire too. And even backed out of the secondary sanctions. Basically he gave Putin everything he wanted. Likely up to and including anal.

Lets see how everything shakes out. We don't know the deal yet. What we do know is that Biden did absolutely nothing to stop the war, so there is that.
 
Yeah, like how Putin ignored Biden completely. :abgg2q.jpg:
He is not ignoring trump. He is collaborating with his to screw Europe. He played trump like the fool that he is.

Is trump really this stupid or is he a Russian asset? That may come to light after Poootin invades another country.

Let me get this straight. The guy that invaded a soveign country is now giving the US and the EU to defend THAT country. And trump thinks that was a concession? Laughable!
 

Trump envoy Steve Witkoff, who took part in the talks Friday at a military base in Alaska, said it “was the first time we had ever heard the Russians agree to that” and called it “game-changing.”

“We were able to win the following concession: that the United States could offer Article 5-like protection, which is one of the real reasons why Ukraine wants to be in NATO," Witkoff told CNN's “State of the Union.”

But reminder that this was also the man who gave Putin 50 days to reach a peace deal or he would slam sanctions on Russia. It has taken him a while, but he is finally getting around to blaming Ukraine for not given land stolen by Putin. That is where we are headed. trump would gladly give all of Ukraine to Putin, if he could secure his coveted peace prize.

It's not up to Trump. Trump can make recommendations but, ultimately, it's up to Putin and Zelensky.
 
It's definitely refreshing to have a strong, pro-American, president, unlike what we had for the previous 4 years.

 
Lets see how everything shakes out. We don't know the deal yet. What we do know is that Biden did absolutely nothing to stop the war, so there is that.
Biden sanctioned Russia and sent a steady flow of arms to Ukraine. trump stopped them and could repeat his Poootin worship by stopping them again unless he gets his peace prize.
 
He is not ignoring trump. He is collaborating with his to screw Europe. He played trump like the fool that he is.

Is trump really this stupid or is he a Russian asset? That may come to light after Poootin invades another country.

Let me get this straight. The guy that invaded a soveign country is now giving the US and the EU to defend THAT country. And trump thinks that was a concession? Laughable!

You guys are so stuck down the rabbit hole on the Trump Russia thing that you can't respond with any coherence or any deviation from it, despite what actually happens.
 
He is not ignoring trump. He is collaborating with his to screw Europe. He played trump like the fool that he is.

Is trump really this stupid or is he a Russian asset? That may come to light after Poootin invades another country.

Let me get this straight. The guy that invaded a soveign country is now giving the US and the EU to defend THAT country. And trump thinks that was a concession? Laughable!

Zelensky is free to reject recommendations and keep fighting until all male Ukrainians are DEAD. It sounds like that's what you want.
 
Zelensky is free to reject recommendations and keep fighting until all male Ukrainians are DEAD. It sounds like that's what you want.
Wow! Another Magat Poootin Lover!
 
Biden sanctioned Russia and sent a steady flow of arms to Ukraine. trump stopped them and could repeat his Poootin worship by stopping them again unless he gets his peace prize.
Biden emboldened Putin to invade Ukraine in the first place by allowing the completion of Nordstream and then spent billions of dollars of our money funding Ukraine's defense. Much of that money has gone to crooked politicians in the Ukraine. Biden's foreign policy was a complete disaster on every front in every corner of the world.
 
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Lets see how everything shakes out. We don't know the deal yet. What we do know is that Biden did absolutely nothing to stop the war, so there is that.
What deal?

And BULLSHIT
 
Biden sanctioned Russia and sent a steady flow of arms to Ukraine. trump stopped them and could repeat his Poootin worship by stopping them again unless he gets his peace prize.
And nothing changed in this war since about 3 months in. Except the death toll….
 
Europe still pays Russia for oil and gas.

Those sanctions failed.
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Indeed, Despite the so-called Biden sanctions, From 2022 to 2024, Europe paid approximately €21.9 billion for Russian oil and gas in 2024 alone, while total earnings from Russian fossil fuel exports since the start of the invasion in February 2022 reached around €847 billion. The EU's spending on Russian fossil fuels consistently outpaced the financial aid provided to Ukraine during the same period.
From 2021 to 2024, Russia was the largest supplier of oil and natural gas to the EU, providing about 90% of its oil and 40% of its gas.

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