trump says the US will join the EU in security agreement for Ukraine, after a peace deal

[FoghornLeghorn]

 

[FoghornLeghorn]

Trump gets an A for effort in trying to end the war. Ultimately it's up to Russia and Ukraine to make it happen.

 

[theHawk]

MSN

Trump envoy Steve Witkoff, who took part in the talks Friday at a military base in Alaska, said it “was the first time we had ever heard the Russians agree to that” and called it “game-changing.”

“We were able to win the following concession: that the United States could offer Article 5-like protection, which is one of the real reasons why Ukraine wants to be in NATO," Witkoff told CNN's “State of the Union.”

But reminder that this was also the man who gave Putin 50 days to reach a peace deal or he would slam sanctions on Russia. It has taken him a while, but he is finally getting around to blaming Ukraine for not given land stolen by Putin. That is where we are headed. trump would gladly give all of Ukraine to Putin, if he could secure his coveted peace prize.

What did Biden accomplish after 3.5 years?

 

[TemplarKormac]

No, before any peace deal.

Taco simply cannot be trusted to do the right thing.

You never trust him, so what's the point of saying that?

 

[theHawk]

Gave up completely on a cease fire too. And even backed out of the secondary sanctions. Basically he gave Putin everything he wanted. Likely up to and including anal.

The land isn’t President Trump’s to “give” to Putin.

The Russians have already taken what land they want.

Are you willing to die to take it back from them? No Americans are willing to die for that land. Even Ukrainians don’t want to die for it and would rather concede that it’s Russia’s again.

Little keyboard warriors like yourself will whine and cry. You just want someone else to fight big mean Putin for you.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Lets see how everything shakes out. We don't know the deal yet. What we do know is that Biden did absolutely nothing to stop the war, so there is that.

There were peace feelers from February 2022 through January 20, 2024, SweetTea, and you know it.

Biden would not sign on to cession of Ukrainian territory to Russia. Period.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

It's definitely refreshing to have a strong, pro-American, president, unlike what we had for the previous 4 years.

Yes, getting Biden for four years was a wonderful respite from the weak Trump.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

You never trust him, so what's the point of saying that?

No one of right mind and decent behavior trusts him.

 

[Mac-7]

You guys are so stuck down the rabbit hole on the Trump Russia thing that you can't respond with any coherence or any deviation from it, despite what actually happens.

All libs care about at this point is preventing trump from getting any credit for a peace deal if it happens

The left appear to be hoping for a hundred year war that does not end till after trump leaves office

 

[luiza]

MSN

Trump envoy Steve Witkoff, who took part in the talks Friday at a military base in Alaska, said it “was the first time we had ever heard the Russians agree to that” and called it “game-changing.”

“We were able to win the following concession: that the United States could offer Article 5-like protection, which is one of the real reasons why Ukraine wants to be in NATO," Witkoff told CNN's “State of the Union.”

But reminder that this was also the man who gave Putin 50 days to reach a peace deal or he would slam sanctions on Russia. It has taken him a while, but he is finally getting around to blaming Ukraine for not given land stolen by Putin. That is where we are headed. trump would gladly give all of Ukraine to Putin, if he could secure his coveted peace prize.

Let's hope Uncle Pooters and his merry band decide to take all of Ukey Land .
Where then will Security Forces locate ?

There will be no more of that nation called Ukraine .
Nice one Moscow

 

[TimFitz]

Lets see how everything shakes out. We don't know the deal yet. What we do know is that Biden did absolutely nothing to stop the war, so there is that.

He wanted the United States to help Ukraine win it.

Which would have been a far better outcome for Ukraine, NATO, and the western alliance.

Far better than the the Munich style giveaway Trump is piddling around with.

 

[TimFitz]

All libs care about at this point is preventing trump from getting any credit for a peace deal if it happens

The left appear to be hoping for a hundred year war that does not end till after trump leaves office

Your petty tribal parochial politics have nothing to do with it.

 

[TimFitz]

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Indeed, Despite the so-called Biden sanctions, From 2022 to 2024, Europe paid approximately €21.9 billion for Russian oil and gas in 2024 alone, while total earnings from Russian fossil fuel exports since the start of the invasion in February 2022 reached around €847 billion. The EU's spending on Russian fossil fuels consistently outpaced the financial aid provided to Ukraine during the same period.
From 2021 to 2024, Russia was the largest supplier of oil and natural gas to the EU, providing about 90% of its oil and 40% of its gas.

Europe Somehow Still Depends on Russia’s Energy

After years of war and promises to change course, the continent maintains ties to Russian fossil fuels.

foreignpolicy.com

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China 2024 Oil & LNG Imports From Russia Up 1.3% and 3.3% - RUSSIA'S PIVOT TO ASIA

The latest data from the General Administration of Customs of the People's Republic of China states that over 2024, for the full year, China increased the

russiaspivottoasia.com

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EU devours Russian gas at record speed despite cutoff

Pressure to impose sanctions, a raging war and a looming Trump presidency still have not quenched the bloc’s thirst for Russian gas.

www.politico.eu

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Russian Gas Exports to Europe Rise 20% in 2024

Total exports of Russian gas to European countries have so far been 18-20% higher this year than in 2023, Deputy Prime Minister Alexander…

www.marinelink.com

“ The EU's spending on Russian fossil fuels consistently outpaced the financial aid provided to Ukraine during the same period.”

non sequiter. And a highly dishonest one at that.

 

[Mac-7]

Your petty tribal parochial politics have nothing to do with it.

They have everyghing to do with it

And its so obvious as your side spends more energy attacking trump personally than considering the actual options for a peace deal

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

Gave up completely on a cease fire too. And even backed out of the secondary sanctions. Basically he gave Putin everything he wanted. Likely up to and including anal.

Boo boo.

 

[struth]

Biden sanctioned Russia and sent a steady flow of arms to Ukraine. trump stopped them and could repeat his Poootin worship by stopping them again unless he gets his peace prize.

Xiden lifted sanctions, and froze aid twice

Nord Stream 2: Biden waives US sanctions on Russian pipeline

The US also waives sanctions on a Putin ally who leads the firm behind the Nord Stream 2 project.

www.bbc.com

White House freezes Ukraine military package that includes lethal weapons

Officials prepped $100 million worth of arms as Russia massed troops on the border, then put it on pause as the Biden-Putin summit approached.

www.politico.com

Despite appeals from Ukraine, Biden admin holds back additional military aid to Kyiv amid diplomatic push

A source familiar with the matter, however, said there are other options for further aid to Ukraine, including a much larger package in the event of further incursion by Russia.

www.nbcnews.com

That’s reality…

 

[struth]

Gave up completely on a cease fire too. And even backed out of the secondary sanctions. Basically he gave Putin everything he wanted. Likely up to and including anal.

What’s the point of a ceasefire before a deal if you can simply get a deal?

 

[Hafar1014]

MSN

Trump envoy Steve Witkoff, who took part in the talks Friday at a military base in Alaska, said it “was the first time we had ever heard the Russians agree to that” and called it “game-changing.”

“We were able to win the following concession: that the United States could offer Article 5-like protection, which is one of the real reasons why Ukraine wants to be in NATO," Witkoff told CNN's “State of the Union.”

But reminder that this was also the man who gave Putin 50 days to reach a peace deal or he would slam sanctions on Russia. It has taken him a while, but he is finally getting around to blaming Ukraine for not given land stolen by Putin. That is where we are headed. trump would gladly give all of Ukraine to Putin, if he could secure his coveted peace prize.

BS Trump is showing us what a true leader is after the Biden disaster. The mineral deal Trump made with Ukraine will never allow Putin to take Ukraine. Putin is in a position of weakness. He cant win, has 1 million casualties, his economy is weak, he asked for the meeting.

 

[TimFitz]

Your petty tribal parochial politics have nothing to do with it.

Trump gets an A for effort in trying to end the war. Ultimately it's up to Russia and Ukraine to make it happen.

Trump is on Putin’s side.

 

[TimFitz]

BS Trump is showing us what a true leader is after the Biden disaster. The mineral deal Trump made with Ukraine will never allow Putin to take Ukraine. Putin is in a position of weakness. He cant win, has 1 million casualties, his economy is weak, he asked for the meeting.

Yes, but the minerals are in territory that Putin is demanding. So, any mineral deal with Ukraine is moot if Trump keeps undermining Ukraine on Putin’s behalf.

Putin is in a weak position.

A position the Trump regime keeps trying to let Putin out of.