Trump says FEMA to be wound down after hurricane season

[sartre play]

Not really certain where to put this one. The administration intends to eliminate FEMA after the current hurricane season and give out less money. I believe that requires Congress however.

Trump says FEMA to be wound down after hurricane season

Trump also said he planned to distribute disaster relief funds directly from the president’s office.

www.nbcnews.com

Trump says FEMA to be wound down after hurricane season​

Not really certain where to put this one. The administration intends to eliminate FEMA after the current hurricane season and give out less money. I believe that requires Congress however.

Trump says FEMA to be wound down after hurricane season

Trump also said he planned to distribute disaster relief funds directly from the president’s office.

www.nbcnews.com

Trump says FEMA to be wound down after hurricane season​

Not really certain where to put this one. The administration intends to eliminate FEMA after the current hurricane season and give out less money. I believe that requires Congress however.

Trump says FEMA to be wound down after hurricane season

Trump also said he planned to distribute disaster relief funds directly from the president’s office.

www.nbcnews.com

Trump says FEMA to be wound down after hurricane season​

WHAT?? Please post some thing about the president saying HE would PERSONAILY be deciding FEMA style funds out of
His office, Even if you love him, can not be allowed to serve us as a King OVER EVRYTHING he wants credit or control over.

 

[martybegan]

The thing is, Trump can't just "wind it down". He's been smacked down over and over for things like this but he will never learn.

He can reduce it to the level explicitly mandated by the law creating it, same thing he is doing with the Department of Education.

 

[Oddball]

And your hysteric hyperbole only furthers my point. There is nothing statist about me. I'm just smarter than you. I agree that FEMA is inefficient and incompetent at times. It doesn't mean that we throw everything out the window and tell people, "Hey! Life isn't fair. Sorry guys. Good luck and don't die." Since Trump is this master reformer that you guys claim, why doesn't he hire more competent leadership to run the organization? How about a partnership with the state governments and local relief organizations or groups like the truckers you mentioned earlier who can be readied and prepared when the next disaster strikes? To me, that would sound like competent leadership, but as we've seen over and over again, competency isn't what you people voted for. You just think you did.

By all means, though, you take your "Life isn't fair, hope you don't die" solution to the American people. You're delusional if you actually believe you're going to be taken more seriously by anyone other than black helicopter paranoia cranks like yourself compared to my pragmatic common sense approach.

"Hysterical hyperbole"....lmfao

FEMA is a corrupt ******* money pit, and it always has been...In Asheville it was actively used to stop aid from getting in....And you seriously think that shit can be "fixed"?

You're like the cretinous fool who clams that socialism hasn't worked because it "wasn't done right".

Though you're not the shittiest "libertarian" I've ever encountered, you're certainly giving it your all to take the crown.

 

[Zincwarrior]

WHAT?? Please post some thing about the president saying HE would PERSONAILY be deciding FEMA style funds out of
His office, Even if you love him, can not be allowed to serve us as a King OVER EVRYTHING he wants credit or control over.

His press conference yesterday.

 

[Oddball]

make threats against FEMA employees, all assistance stops

Go climb back up into your crazy tree, freak.

 

[Twisted Gypsy Child]

Go climb back up into your crazy tree, freak.

no

 

[Zincwarrior]

no they can not handle it. Do you want me to show YOU

Evidently, elections matter.

 

[sartre play]

"Hysterical hyperbole"....lmfao

FEMA is a corrupt ******* money pit, and it always has been...In Asheville it was actively used to stop aid from getting in....And you seriously think that shit can be "fixed"?

You're like the cretinous fool who clams that socialism hasn't worked because it "wasn't done right".

Though you're not the shittiest "libertarian" I've ever encountered, you're certainly giving it your all to take the crown.

There is no government agency run with the efficiency and cost saving we would like.
That improvements are needed yes, Dumping them for some open ended what ever, may not be an improvement.

 

[Robert W]

no they can not handle it. Do you want me to show YOU

It is sad Biden did so little for those people!

If you had a very cheap house, you might have got enough help.

FEMA can provide up to $42,500 for Housing Assistance and up to $42,500 for Other Needs Assistance. These maximums apply to disasters declared in Fiscal Year 2024 and may be adjusted for future years. Some types of assistance, like initial "Serious Needs Assistance", do not count toward these limits. FEMA.gov can offer additional financial support even if your insurance already covers some costs.

 

[Oddball]

There is no government agency run with the efficiency and cost saving we would like.
That improvements are needed yes, Dumping them for some open ended what ever, may not be an improvement.

That "open-ended what ever" worked just fine before an unwieldy federal bureaucracy was set in motion, and it works just fine today.

Moreover, you're actually doing harm to those in need, by wasting money paying federal bureaucrats to sit around with thumbs up their asses, waiting for whatever disaster may occur.....Those resources could be creating the added value in the private economy, to generate the wealth that's needed in the event of those disasters.

FEMA is not only hopelessly corrupt, its mere existence defies basic economic common sense.

 

[westwall]

Fair enough. What is the alternative when something like the North Carolina incident happens next time?

Considering it was mainly religious groups that actually DID anything in the region, and volunteer aviators who did the vast majority of the search and rescue, and emergency supply dropping, and I think you have your answer.

 

[westwall]

I'm all for that if we can count on stuff like that every time a natural disaster occurs, but it's a bit of a gamble, don't you think? There should still be some type of federal or state oversight to coordinate and/or cooperate with the private sector. Sometimes people helping on their own get in over their head and then they need rescuing too.

Can you point to more than one case where FEMA actually helped, instead of hindered relief efforts?

I can only think of a single case.

 

[westwall]

when disaster strikes, go to hell, you are on your own

MAGA

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That was FEMA, simp.

 

[M14 Shooter]

WHAT?? Please post some thing about the president saying HE would PERSONAILY be deciding FEMA style funds out of
His office, Even if you love him, can not be allowed to serve us as a King OVER EVRYTHING he wants credit or control over.

Where did you read any of that?

“We’re going to give it out directly. It’ll be from the president’s office. We’ll have somebody here, could be Homeland Security.”

 

[westwall]

"Hysterical hyperbole"....lmfao

FEMA is a corrupt ******* money pit, and it always has been...In Asheville it was actively used to stop aid from getting in....And you seriously think that shit can be "fixed"?

You're like the cretinous fool who clams that socialism hasn't worked because it "wasn't done right".

Though you're not the shittiest "libertarian" I've ever encountered, you're certainly giving it your all to take the crown.

SPAZ is the kind of libertarian that would endorse a self declared Marxist for president.

 

[sartre play]

That "open-ended what ever" worked just fine before an unwieldy federal bureaucracy was set in motion, and it works just fine today.

Moreover, you're actually doing harm to those in need, by wasting money paying federal bureaucrats to sit around with thumbs up their asses, waiting for whatever disaster may occur.....Those resources could be creating the added value in the private economy, to generate the wealth that's needed in the event of those disasters.

FEMA is not only hopelessly corrupt, its mere existence defies basic economic common sense.

THE OVER KILL. Words like hopelessly Corrupt, Like we do not have the capacity TO FIX anything.
We just have to destroy stuff that Some of us DO NOT LIKE.

 

[Oddball]

SPAZ is the kind of libertarian that would endorse a self declared Marxist for president.

He's exactly the "we can fix that" "libertarian", among other poseurs that flooded into the party when they decided nominating GOP retreads was a good idea, that caused me to leave the LP after Badnarik.

Bumper Hornberger made a very impassioned appeal to the '24 nominating convention to stop it and return to their small/ no gubmint roots, and was promptly ignored in favor of nominating a sjw ******.

Now the libertarian brand is as meaningless and worthless as is "conservative".

 

[debbiedowner]

Not really certain where to put this one. The administration intends to eliminate FEMA after the current hurricane season and give out less money. I believe that requires Congress however.

Trump says FEMA to be wound down after hurricane season

Trump also said he planned to distribute disaster relief funds directly from the president’s office.

www.nbcnews.com

Trump says FEMA to be wound down after hurricane season​

It probably does need congress approval.

FEMA was originally established in 1979 by President Carter under Executive Order 12127 and Executive Order 12148 to take over implementation of the National Flood Insurance Program (NFIP) from the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD), among other functions. However, Congress has since passed legislation firmly establishing the agency’s role leading federal disaster mitigation, response, and recovery functions, and overseeing the implementation of the national flood insurance program.[1] FEMA has issued numerous regulations via notice-and-comment process implementing those mandates, including the agency’s 2023 interim final rule expanding access to disaster assistance for individuals and households. While the president can use executive orders to guide how FEMA and other agencies implement these mandates, he should not be able to unilaterally change or nullify those mandates.

Notably, federal law also explicitly prohibits the Secretary of Homeland Security from “substantially or significantly reduc[ing]… the authorities, responsibilities, or functions of [FEMA] or the capability of the Agency to perform those missions, authorities, responsibilities.” 6 U.S.C. 316.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Not really certain where to put this one.

It goes under Trump is incapable of sound, responsible governance and is unfit to be president.

 

[debbiedowner]

Can you point to more than one case where FEMA actually helped, instead of hindered relief efforts?

I can only think of a single case.

Hurricane Ivan, Erin, Opal, Dennis, Katrina, Harvey, Andrew to name just a few. Hellped me in Ivan, Erin and Dennis.