Trump says a tariff dividend of 'at least' $2,000 will be paid to most Americans

[TheProgressivePatriot]

LOL....Like you would turn it down.

Is that supposed to be an answer? Does it somehow refute or even remotely address my points?

 

[cnm]

As is Trump. That's why he rattled this off.

"I had planned to give everyone $2000 (not that he can even do it on his own) but the evil Supreme Court wouldn't allow it".

Taco?

I can't believe it.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

We are nowhere close to paying down our debt. The BBB is projected to increase the debt by $3.4 trillion

https://money.usnews.com/money/personal-finance/family-finance/articles/trumps-one-big-beautiful-bill-just-raised-the-debt-ceiling-by-5-trillion-heres-why-that-matters-to-you

 

[WEATHER53]

Well this would be outstanding for both America and Americans so a nutcase rogue in a robe will soon declare it illegal .
The $2,000 could be used by the dependents to relieve their situation but they don’t want that so booze, drugs, sneakers , nails and hair extensions

 

[Crepitus]

Bullcrap!

You accuse Republicans of giving "tax breaks to the wealthy" and include anyone "wealthy" enough to pay taxes, which is who gets the tax breaks you cry about.

Where did you get the 1/4 million per year as the definition of "high income people?" Any place else but pulled it out of your ass?

Simple formula for Trump to keep his promise. This math may confuse you, but I'll try to make it simple.

x/2000 = y. (x = the amount of dollars from tariffs that Trump has to spend in the rebate and y = the number of people who could get the $2,000)

The y number of lowest income people get the $2,000. All others are "high income" for the purpose of this rebate.

He could also exclude anyone who did not pay any taxes. People who paid very low taxes would get only the amount that they paid.

It can easily work if Trump wants it to. The math of taxes is never as simple as your 5th grade level attempt.


No, more than double.

The typical ACA market place user pays $50 per month. With an increase of 114%, that means they would pay $107 per month. An increase of $57.

Fifty-seven dollars. That's what your party or "not your party" is currently starving the children of military members, air traffic controllers, measurers at the Bureau of Weights and Measures and every other federal employee for. Next month, they start starving SNAP recipients and WIC babies.

$57 per month > entire semi-monthly paychecks of all fedemps. That's how a Democrat or "not Democrat" does math.

Only if they are making over 4 times the poverty rate, well over six figures.

I'm a teacher, so I don't make six figures. I have no interest in subsidizing health care for people who do make six figures from some sort of small business or freelance gig that doesn't have health insurance. I cannot afford to have a job that doesn't have health coverage, so why should I be forced to pay for it for someone else?

Let them get a job at Starbucks or UPS who offer health insurance to part timers almost immediately upon hiring.


Oh boo-freaking-hoo!

Cry me a river over some part-time doordasher who is a "future video game tester in training" and "likes making my own hours" who is maxed out on Food Stamps, WIC, AFDC, and now will be asked to pay $57 bucks more for health insurance equal to what I pay $400 per month for thanks to the ACA.

Let him or her get a real job, like the overwhelming majority of Americans who are being asked by Democrats to pick up the slack for them.

Your post in a nutshell.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

He's seen the polls. So, **** the debt.

All the free money he handed out in 2020 didn't help his reelection. You'd think he'd have learned, although I'm not really buying it either way. He lies all the time.

 

[Manonthestreet]

Show me the money.....and then double Mr Billionaires taxes ....amiright

 

[Captain Creeper]

This is one of those things Trump does that I disagree with. There is little difference between this and Biden’s Covid giveaways. It both cases it will diminish the value of the dollar.

 

[shockedcanadian]

This is one of those things Trump does that I disagree with. There is little difference between this and Biden’s Covid giveaways. It both cases it will diminish the value of the dollar.

Wrong. You had to borrow or print money for covid. This is money collected by the treasury department, it's entirely different. Though is does increase the money supply, it won't be for everyone and it will offset some costs and to avoid inflation the checks should be cut in a staggered manner so people receive checks at different times over say a three month period.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

While also paying down the debt somewhat, this is almost certainly the right play.

The worst outcome for the world would be the U.S becoming insolvent and/or hitting hyper-inflation. If needs to continue to push the idea of Americans all pulling the same rope and in doing so they will receive benefits of the tariff paid for primarily by foreign countries when they absorb the costs in order to remain competitive.

If he doesn't win the tariff case he will pursue other avenues and perhaps even cut off unfair trading partners.

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What's $2,000 supposed to do?

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Wrong. You had to borrow or print money for covid. This is money collected by the treasury department, it's entirely different. Though is does increase the money supply, it won't be for everyone and it will offset some costs and to avoid inflation the checks should be cut in a staggered manner so people receive checks at different times over say a three month period.

It's a monthly check of $2,000? For how long?

 

[Crepitus]

While also paying down the debt somewhat, this is almost certainly the right play.

The worst outcome for the world would be the U.S becoming insolvent and/or hitting hyper-inflation. If needs to continue to push the idea of Americans all pulling the same rope and in doing so they will receive benefits of the tariff paid for primarily by foreign countries when they absorb the costs in order to remain competitive.

If he doesn't win the tariff case he will pursue other avenues and perhaps even cut off unfair trading partners.

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Like I said in the other threads about this, it's not gonna happen, the money isn't really there.

 

[DennisPTate]

While also paying down the debt somewhat, this is almost certainly the right play.

The worst outcome for the world would be the U.S becoming insolvent and/or hitting hyper-inflation. If needs to continue to push the idea of Americans all pulling the same rope and in doing so they will receive benefits of the tariff paid for primarily by foreign countries when they absorb the costs in order to remain competitive.

If he doesn't win the tariff case he will pursue other avenues and perhaps even cut off unfair trading partners.

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I am not a fan of Tariffs at all and I had great difficulty understanding where President Donald J. Trump was going with Tariffs at first but then I noticed that Canada's Liberal Party soon fired P. M. Justin Trudeau, [who was in some ways even worse than Biden which is a challenging thing to do]. Soon I saw Canada's Liberal administration beginning to get tough on certain types of crime, [especially crime that could put drugs or terrorists across the border into the USA]!

Soon afterward I saw evidence that the Tariffs on China seemed to be scaring the massive bureaucracy of China into putting pressure on Xi to become less antagonistic to the Trump administration!

All around the world, nation seemed to be giving in to what President Trump wanted, [which seemed to be much less drugs, and much fewer terrorists and criminals being able to be smuggled into the USA].

I am beginning to think that those rumours about President Trump having an IQ around 156 or so, [but combine that high IQ with an interesting background in the real estate industry of New York, where you get to know how messed up this world really is, and voila, we have a very different type of USA President who seems to know how to get the job done, [and whether or not I understand or agree with his usage of tariffs makes very little difference in the over all scheme of things]!

Now using Tariffs to finance an income supplement for Americans is next level brilliant in my opinion!

Wow!!!!

 

[Concerned American]

While also paying down the debt somewhat, this is almost certainly the right play.

The worst outcome for the world would be the U.S becoming insolvent and/or hitting hyper-inflation. If needs to continue to push the idea of Americans all pulling the same rope and in doing so they will receive benefits of the tariff paid for primarily by foreign countries when they absorb the costs in order to remain competitive.

If he doesn't win the tariff case he will pursue other avenues and perhaps even cut off unfair trading partners.

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Screw that. If it was true that a $2K dividend would be paid to every taxpayer--and it isn't, WTF wouldn't you use that money to pay the debt off. Even at $2K per taxpayer--assuming 150M taxpayers--that would only account for $300B per year or around a hundred years to pay the current debt off. SMH, as long as people get money in their pockets, eh? The current budgeting process and spending by the US government is out of hand. Massive cuts in spending and obligations and PAYING DOWN THE DEBT is the ONLY responsible way to get out of this mess.

 

[Crepitus]

Wrong. You had to borrow or print money for covid. This is money collected by the treasury department, it's entirely different. Though is does increase the money supply, it won't be for everyone and it will offset some costs and to avoid inflation the checks should be cut in a staggered manner so people receive checks at different times over say a three month period.

The tariffs revenue for fiscal 2025 was around $175 billion.

You'd need twice that to give every taxpayer $2K.

Plus tRump has already said that was gonna be used for bailing out the farmers he crippled with his silly tariff scheme.

 

[Crepitus]

I am not a fan of Tariffs at all and I had great difficulty understanding where President Donald J. Trump was going with Tariffs at first but then I noticed that Canada's Liberal Party soon fired P. M. Justin Trudeau, [who was in some ways even worse than Biden which is a challenging thing to do]. Soon I saw Canada's Liberal administration beginning to get tough on certain types of crime, [especially crime that could put drugs or terrorists across the border into the USA]!

Soon afterward I saw evidence that the Tariffs on China seemed to be scaring the massive bureaucracy of China into putting pressure on Xi to become less antagonistic to the Trump administration!

All around the world, nation seemed to be giving in to what President Trump wanted, [which seemed to be much less drugs, and much fewer terrorists and criminals being able to be smuggled into the USA].

I am beginning to think that those rumours about President Trump having an IQ around 156 or so, [but combine that high IQ with an interesting background in the real estate industry of New York, where you get to know how messed up this world really is, and voila, we have a very different type of USA President who seems to know how to get the job done, [and whether or not I understand or agree with his usage of tariffs makes very little difference in the over all scheme of things]!

Now using Tariffs to finance an income supplement for Americans is next level brilliant in my opinion!

Wow!!!!

Dude, it's retarded. That money came right out of our pockets.

Your estimate of tRump's IQ is likely about 2/3 higher than the reality.

 

[shockedcanadian]

It's a monthly check of $2,000? For how long?

It will be a one time cheque I presume.

 

[Captain Creeper]

Wrong. You had to borrow or print money for covid. This is money collected by the treasury department, it's entirely different. Though is does increase the money supply, it won't be for everyone and it will offset some costs and to avoid inflation the checks should be cut in a staggered manner so people receive checks at different times over say a three month period.

The tariff money is not segregated. It is put into the general fund. It is the same at the Covid payouts.

 

[DennisPTate]

Dude, it's retarded. That money came right out of our pockets.

Your estimate of tRump's IQ is likely about 2/3 higher than the reality.

Actually this could put pressure on certain governments to take another look at the way that President Abraham Lincoln saved USA taxpayers four billion dollars in interest payments? There are ways that any government can figure out ways to assist companies to be able to pay those tariffs.

In 1972, the United States Treasury Department was asked to compute the amount of interest that would have been paid if that 400 million dollars would have been borrowed at interest instead of being issued by Abraham Lincoln. They did some computations, and a few weeks later, the United States Treasury Department said the United States Government saved 4 billion dollars in interest because Lincoln had created his own money.

The Federal Reserve Act
[Melvin Sickler]

Abraham Lincoln & John F.K assassination

Abraham Lincoln and John F. Kennedy Two great presidents of the United States Assassinated for the cause of justice

www.cidpusa.org

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Now using Tariffs to finance an income supplement for Americans is next level brilliant in my opinion!

Wow!!!!

How about fixing the government shutdown first — and paying the federal workers currently working without a paycheck?

That shouldn’t be hard. Paying people for their labor is supposed to be an essential function of government.

Oh, and welcome to U.S. Message Board.