Oh yeah, I forgot, one was Black and the other was White.Apples and oranges. Come on now, take off those horse blinders.
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trump refuses to call for unity in FOX interview
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I get it now
I approve of Trump's stance. The more Trump has the 99% arguing about stupid shit the more tax breaks those of us in the top tier get.
Also.. Definitely dont send your kids to college. Those ninny liberals will come out and try to compete with my college kids for jobs. No thank you. The world needs ditch diggers too.
Also.. Definitely dont send your kids to college. Those ninny liberals will come out and try to compete with my college kids for jobs. No thank you. The world needs ditch diggers too.
How many murders were there on Jan. 6? hmmm, I can think of just one, and it was from left.
How many deaths were there during the Summer Of Love?
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How many murders were there on Jan. 6? hmmm, I can think of just one, and it was from left.
How many deaths were there during the Summer Of Love?
You'd think an insurrection would involve a lot of death... hard to do that when the "insurrectionists" weren't armed
The left had to redefine the word 'insurrection' to use in with their mantra.
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Again, did you even read the Jan 6th Committee report?How many murders were there on Jan. 6? hmmm, I can think of just one, and it was from left.
How many deaths were there during the Summer Of Love?
Are you saying Ashli Babbitt was killed by someone on the left, and that should be counted as leftwing violence?
In regards to the George Floyd, you cannot demonize the entire left wing based on this. The vast majority of protests stayed peaceful, and a portion of those that don't tend to have individuals just looking for a reason to vadalize and become violent. As you guys might say, it's the price you pay to have freedom of protest, and in a similar mannar, the price you pay for the 2nd Amendment is children dying every year to school shootings...
FYI a list of people who died during the George Floyd protests can be found here:
14 Days Of Protests, 19 Dead
Forbes counts at least 19 dead in two weeks of protests over George Floyd’s death.
www.forbes.com
Of these deaths, the 2 deaths that were from ambush-style attacks on security personal and law enforcement officers in CA (which killed 2 and injured 3 others) were carried out by Steven Carrillo -- a 32 year old (at the time) Air Force Staff Sergeant who was associated with the Boogaloo movement which is a far right movement. And Robert Alvin Justus Jr also associated with the Boogaloo movement.
Most of these deaths were not conservatives, but protesters themselves.
The man who targeted and killed Democratic state lawmaker Melissa Hortman and her husband Mark in their home in Minnesota in June was a Trump supporter.
The man charged with the attempted assassination of Pennsylvania’s Democratic governor, Josh Shapiro, in April was a Trump supporter.
The man convicted of orchestrating a series of shootings at the homes of four Democratic elected officials in New Mexico in 2022 was a Trump supporter.
The man who tried to kidnap then Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and assaulted her husband, Paul, in 2022 was a Trump supporter.
The men who wanted to hang Mike Pence on Jan 6, 2021, were Trump supporters.
The man who killed the son of Obama-appointed District Judge Esther Salas in 2020 was a Trump supporter.
The men who were convicted of trying to kidnap Michigan’s Democratic governor, Gretchen Whitmer, in 2020 were Trump supporters.
The man who sent pipe bombs to the homes of Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, and other top Democrats in 2018 was a Trump supporter.
The man who killed left-wing activist Heather Heyer after driving his car into a crowd of counter-protesters in Charlottesville in 2017 was a Trump supporter.
Political violence does not only come from the left. And most planned incidents have historically been from people on the right.
And now your administration is basically upping violent rhetoric and practically begging for a civil war, painting the actions of individuals as the entire population of the left. It is unhinged, and it raises the chances of a right wing person acting on the comments of this adminstration and carrying out political violence. And when that happens, do you want the democrats to respond in the same kind of way, and start effectively calling for a civil war, as the right is currently doing?
Did democrats do that after the Melissa Hortman assassination?
It's one thing for unhinged individuals to carry out violence that do not represent the entire party, it's completely another level of unhinged for a ******* presdential adminsitration and it's media wing to be upping the rhetoric and painting the entire left as an enemy that needs to be defeated.
You should go read the Jan 6th Committee report.
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Over 250 loots and burns is light years from “mostly peaceful”!Again, did you even read the Jan 6th Committee report?
Are you saying Ashli Babbitt was killed by someone on the left, and that should be counted as leftwing violence?
In regards to the George Floyd, you cannot demonize the entire left wing based on this. The vast majority of protests stayed peaceful, and a portion of those that don't tend to have individuals just looking for a reason to vadalize and become violent. As you guys might say, it's the price you pay to have freedom of protest, and in a similar mannar, the price you pay for the 2nd Amendment is children dying every year to school shootings...
FYI a list of people who died during the George Floyd protests can be found here:
14 Days Of Protests, 19 Dead
Forbes counts at least 19 dead in two weeks of protests over George Floyd’s death.
Of these deaths, the 2 deaths that were from ambush-style attacks on security personal and law enforcement officers in CA (which killed 2 and injured 3 others) were carried out by Steven Carrillo -- a 32 year old (at the time) Air Force Staff Sergeant who was associated with the Boogaloo movement which is a far right movement. And Robert Alvin Justus Jr also associated with the Boogaloo movement.
Most of these deaths were not conservatives, but protesters themselves.
The man who targeted and killed Democratic state lawmaker Melissa Hortman and her husband Mark in their home in Minnesota in June was a Trump supporter.
The man charged with the attempted assassination of Pennsylvania’s Democratic governor, Josh Shapiro, in April was a Trump supporter.
The man convicted of orchestrating a series of shootings at the homes of four Democratic elected officials in New Mexico in 2022 was a Trump supporter.
The man who tried to kidnap then Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and assaulted her husband, Paul, in 2022 was a Trump supporter.
The men who wanted to hang Mike Pence on Jan 6, 2021, were Trump supporters.
The man who killed the son of Obama-appointed District Judge Esther Salas in 2020 was a Trump supporter.
The men who were convicted of trying to kidnap Michigan’s Democratic governor, Gretchen Whitmer, in 2020 were Trump supporters.
The man who sent pipe bombs to the homes of Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, and other top Democrats in 2018 was a Trump supporter.
The man who killed left-wing activist Heather Heyer after driving his car into a crowd of counter-protesters in Charlottesville in 2017 was a Trump supporter.
Political violence does not only come from the left. And most planned incidents have historically been from people on the right.
And now your administration is basically upping violent rhetoric and practically begging for a civil war, painting the actions of individuals as the entire population of the left. It is unhinged, and it raises the chances of a right wing person acting on the comments of this adminstration and carrying out political violence. And when that happens, do you want the democrats to respond in the same kind of way, and start effectively calling for a civil war, as the right is currently doing?
Did democrats do that after the Melissa Hortman assassination?
It's one thing for unhinged individuals to carry out violence that do not represent the entire party, it's completely another level of unhinged for a ******* presdential adminsitration and it's media wing to be upping the rhetoric and painting the entire left as an enemy that needs to be defeated.
You should go read the Jan 6th Committee report.
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During an appearance at the Salt Lake City campus of Awaken Church in April 2023, he said: “It's worth it to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year, so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights...That is a prudent deal.”
The Conservative activist added: “You will never live in a society when you have an armed citizenry and you won't have a single gun death. That is nonsense. It's drivel. But I am—I think it's worth it.”
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He continued: “And I would also tell young ladies, you can always go back to your career later, that there is a window where you primarily should pursue marriage and having children, and that is a beautiful thing.”
In other interviews, he has also attacked birth control, claiming that it makes women “angry and bitter” and that women over thirty “aren't attractive in the dating pool.”
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Kirk also allegedly compared the need for pandemic vaccines to apartheid in a 2021 interview with Tucker Carlson.
He also discussed the “great replacement”—a widely disproved conspiracy theory—in an Instagram post from February 2024, which said that undocumented immigrants would replace white Americans in the US.
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Kirk was also well-known for using controversial racial remarks.
He said during a 2024 podcast episode with fellow right wing activist Jack Posobeic: “I'm sorry. If I see a Black pilot, I'm going to be like, 'Boy, I hope he's qualified,”
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Kirk was one of the people who, like the Felon in Chief, want women and black to return to the "bad old days" of the '50's. He, trump, and MAGA have hijacked Christianity to advance their own lusts for power. I am sorry he was killed, but he was not without his own faults.
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120 word changes or manipulation in last 6 years
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You had a lot of protests all over the country. It was mostly peaceful by a percentage level. But in large scale protests you will always have people that take advantage of it and use it to loot and vandalize, especially when those protests are often occurring in areas that have more crime and poverty naturally. Criminals will come out and do that. A lot of looting and crime that occurred is not political violence.
But classing the entire left as responsible for that is not smart.
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Until you decry it instead of lie and deny you are in the hot seat. 40% of all protests back then involved fire, property destruction and looting
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Bullshit. What's your source?
Nearly all Black Lives Matter protests are peaceful despite Trump narrative, report finds
In stark contrast to rightwing claims, 93% of demonstrations have involved no serious harm to people or property
www.theguardian.com
93% of Black Lives Matter Protests Have Been Peaceful, New Report Finds
The Armed Conflict Location & Event Data Project analyzed more than 7,750 BLM demonstrations in all 50 states and D.C.
time.com
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My source is 600 identified protests and 250 involving what I describedBullshit. What's your source?
Nearly all Black Lives Matter protests are peaceful despite Trump narrative, report finds
In stark contrast to rightwing claims, 93% of demonstrations have involved no serious harm to people or property
93% of Black Lives Matter Protests Have Been Peaceful, New Report Finds
The Armed Conflict Location & Event Data Project analyzed more than 7,750 BLM demonstrations in all 50 states and D.C.
A BLM supporting site is no sourcec
What are you going to do, expand unity or hide your reluctance behind Orange Man Bad?
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Trump’s refusal to seek a common bipartisan way forward at a time of profound national anger, fear and mourning was a stunning move for a sitting US president, even by his standards.
Trump has never been a unifier. He loves division, even among his staff. He finds delight in seeing people tear each other apart. This is typical of a narcissistic bully. He will delight if a Dem is murdered, just like he sat and enjoyed the mob on J6 that he helped pay for.
Do you realize that the J6 Committee report was so corrupt and dishonest, that Biden was compelled to give ALL the members on that committee a blanket pardon?Again, did you even read the Jan 6th Committee report?
Are you saying Ashli Babbitt was killed by someone on the left, and that should be counted as leftwing violence?
In regards to the George Floyd, you cannot demonize the entire left wing based on this. The vast majority of protests stayed peaceful, and a portion of those that don't tend to have individuals just looking for a reason to vadalize and become violent. As you guys might say, it's the price you pay to have freedom of protest, and in a similar mannar, the price you pay for the 2nd Amendment is children dying every year to school shootings...
FYI a list of people who died during the George Floyd protests can be found here:
14 Days Of Protests, 19 Dead
Forbes counts at least 19 dead in two weeks of protests over George Floyd’s death.
Of these deaths, the 2 deaths that were from ambush-style attacks on security personal and law enforcement officers in CA (which killed 2 and injured 3 others) were carried out by Steven Carrillo -- a 32 year old (at the time) Air Force Staff Sergeant who was associated with the Boogaloo movement which is a far right movement. And Robert Alvin Justus Jr also associated with the Boogaloo movement.
Most of these deaths were not conservatives, but protesters themselves.
The man who targeted and killed Democratic state lawmaker Melissa Hortman and her husband Mark in their home in Minnesota in June was a Trump supporter.
The man charged with the attempted assassination of Pennsylvania’s Democratic governor, Josh Shapiro, in April was a Trump supporter.
The man convicted of orchestrating a series of shootings at the homes of four Democratic elected officials in New Mexico in 2022 was a Trump supporter.
The man who tried to kidnap then Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and assaulted her husband, Paul, in 2022 was a Trump supporter.
The men who wanted to hang Mike Pence on Jan 6, 2021, were Trump supporters.
The man who killed the son of Obama-appointed District Judge Esther Salas in 2020 was a Trump supporter.
The men who were convicted of trying to kidnap Michigan’s Democratic governor, Gretchen Whitmer, in 2020 were Trump supporters.
The man who sent pipe bombs to the homes of Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, and other top Democrats in 2018 was a Trump supporter.
The man who killed left-wing activist Heather Heyer after driving his car into a crowd of counter-protesters in Charlottesville in 2017 was a Trump supporter.
Political violence does not only come from the left. And most planned incidents have historically been from people on the right.
And now your administration is basically upping violent rhetoric and practically begging for a civil war, painting the actions of individuals as the entire population of the left. It is unhinged, and it raises the chances of a right wing person acting on the comments of this adminstration and carrying out political violence. And when that happens, do you want the democrats to respond in the same kind of way, and start effectively calling for a civil war, as the right is currently doing?
Did democrats do that after the Melissa Hortman assassination?
It's one thing for unhinged individuals to carry out violence that do not represent the entire party, it's completely another level of unhinged for a ******* presdential adminsitration and it's media wing to be upping the rhetoric and painting the entire left as an enemy that needs to be defeated.
You should go read the Jan 6th Committee report.
I fully acknowledge that there are mentally ill and deranged people on both the left and right. The difference is that Patriots/MAGAs condemn ALL who commit or attempt murder if they actually do that rather than just those of the opposition or who they try to pretend is of the opposition.
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Can you give me your source?
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Jesus christ. The Jan 6th Committee report is full of actual text messages. Actual emails. Actual republican witness testimonies.
The Trump administration organized alternative electors, who they got to FRAUDENTLY sign certficates. They then sent these alternative electors. Their most ideal outcome was that they wanted Pence to accept the alternative electors slate, and they pressured him to do so. With that, they would have been able to overturn the election and keep Trump in. However, if they couldn't achieve that, they wanted to at least use it to delay the certification of the election. Fortunately, Pence has at least some integrity and refused to do it. And what did he get in return? A much of MAGA rioters chanting to hang him.
Mike Pence literally said the following:
_________
I think it’s important that the American people know what happened in the days before January 6,” Pence said. “President Trump demanded that I use my authority as vice president presiding over the count of the Electoral College to essentially overturn the election by returning or literally rejecting votes. I had no authority to do that.”
For those who might doubt him, Pence urged them to “read the indictment.”
__________
The indictment Pence is talking about here is:
The federal indictment of Donald Trump (filed by Jack Smith), United States v. Trump, Case No. 1:23-cr-00257 (D.D.C.)
The reason Biden pre-emptively pardoned them is because Trump had openly threatened to go after them. It was protection against politcal retaliation.
Trump literally has a number of criminal cases related to this that were ultimately delayed due to the Supreme court ruling on immunity. That's right, immunity. Not that he didn't do something, but that he should be immune from being held accountable for it.
This is the integrity of democracy and elections. And Trump has done substantial damage to that integrity.
If you would like to tell me what parts of the Jan 6th committee report you think are corrupt?
What are you talking about? Did you forget about how the right reacted after the attack on Pelosi's husband? I've said it elsewhere, but the response of those celebrating after Kirk's death is disgusting, and it should be condemned. But ultimately these are a minority of individuals that don't mean anything. They are mostly randos on social media. And it definitely does not reflect how the vast majority of democratic voters feel.
The actual difference between the democratic party and the republican party is that if a democrat affliated person gets assassinated, I don't worry that the democratic party is going to call for war against the entire right. But if a republican affliated person gets assassinated, we have the President himself fueling the fire, claiming that the radical left are responible. And all these right wing media apparatus coming out declaring war on the left. It's unhinged and unprecedented.
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Trying to drown what I said with a wall of rhetoric won't accomplish what you hope. I stand by my post.
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