trump refuses to call for unity in FOX interview

[RedrickTheCoat]

Trying to drown what I said with a wall of rhetoric won't accomplish what you hope. I stand by my post.

You don't have anything. Crazy. Clown shit.

 

[Man With A Plan]

Incorrect. Did you read the report?

Where is the evidence you have that the Jan 6th Committee report is misleading? Do you even have anything other some right winger telling you not to believe it?
How about you go and read it. And especially the stuff related to Pence. It makes his comments make even more sense when you know what went down.

Star Chamber is a terrible comparison. The hearings were public, televised, and the evidence and transcripts were published. It was open, heavily documented, and largely reliant on testimony from Republicans inside Trump’s administration. You can literally read the report, but you don't because your God Trump demands that you don't.

If anything, Merrick Garland moved way to cautiously in investigating because him and other officials were worried about appearing politically motivated.

The reason that those committee members were pre-emptively pardoned is because Trump has heavily suggested going after people that he felt wronged by. He said multiple times that the Jan 6th Committee members should go to jail. Trump also vowed to pursue the prosecutors and federal investigators involved in the cases he was invovled in. It was protection against politically motivated prosecutions. It was absolutely the correct decision to pre-emptively pardon them, and the fact it even had to be done speaks volumes about this adminstration.

On August 1, 2023, Jack Smith indicted Trump on four felony counts related to Jan. 6:
Conspiracy to defraud the United States
Conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding
Obstruction of an official proceeding
Conspiracy against rights (to disenfranchise voters)

And his legal defense for a lot of these cases....is that he shouldn't be convicted because of he had presidential immunity. Basically, "Even if all this happened, I was president, so you can’t prosecute me". That's what the supreme court ruling on presidential immunity was about (and another thing that you're fine with normalizing until when/if a democratic president utilizes it, I am sure). His whole defense was to delay the criminal cases until he could be elected.

And with his election as President, many of these legal cases are no longer going to go forwared due to the justice department policy that prohibits taking criminal action against a sitting president.

Like I said, you guys don't hold your own accoutable for anything. The president of the United States launced a scam memecoin on his supporter base the day before his inaguation. He can literally run a well known scam on you guys and you don't care. Not to mention the problems of corruption with a memecoin and the conflict of interests it causes. Once again, it's republicans that are introducing and normalizing new methods of corruption.....but you won't complain about it until a democrat does something similar, and then you'll suddenly forget that it was republicans that introduced it and normalized it.

Your party does things that you have no defense for and cannot defend other than claiming it's fake news without any evidence. Imagine your own president running a scam coin on you lol.

Protection from "politically motivated prosecutions" for the people who conducted politically motivated prosecutions? You're kidding...right? Giving people preemptive pardons who hid evidence that would have exonerated Jan. 6th defendants and then destroyed that evidence when they saw that Republicans were taking control of the House and would be able to investigate their actions is indicative of an administration with things to hide! The number of last minute pardons done with the auto pen was staggering. When YOU folks were in power you used that power to prosecute conservatives (giving us a whole new term..."lawfare") but when you lost that power you hide behind preemptive pardons. It's sleazy. But sleazy is what the modern Democratic Party is all about!

 

[M14 Shooter]

Trump realizes that unity with the left is impossible, as the left would much rather see everyone who opposes them killed or maimed rather than "unify" with them.
Disagree?
Tell me, with watever specificity you can: What does "unity" between the right and left look like?

 

[Foxfyre]

120 word changes or manipulation in last 6 years

Just as they have rewritten and manipulated everything related to Trump and tried to make it into something it never was.

 

[Man With A Plan]

Not one arrest has been done by Guardsmen there. They have backed up "Zero" criminal arrests by local law enforcement. They have no training in law enforcement and in fact are not restoring anything, other than acting as a symbol, unless you count picking up litter and doing civic beautification work. Trash pickup and civic beautification is clearly not part of The Guard's mission, and a misuse of Federal troops. It is a "show the flag" mission, and they are being misused, simply to supply them with busy work. I know, as I was part of a state Guard civil disturbance operation, where the Guard was used to establish/enforce curfew, protect public infrastructure, react in overwhelming force to gunfire, in protection of that infrastructure, and the guardsmen manning the fire trucks were being harassed by gunfire, while protecting private property, during that emergency, declared by the Governor, at the time.

Being a fiscal conservative on economics, I am more of a free trader and definitely against increased taxation. You cannot tax American business and people into prosperity. Republicans used to know this, back when they were mostly conservatives.

And yet violent crime in DC has nose dived since Trump sent in the Guard and other Federal agents? Care to take a crack at explaining why that is, White?

 

[RedrickTheCoat]

Protection from "politically motivated prosecutions" for the people who conducted politically motivated prosecutions? You're kidding...right? Giving people preemptive pardons who hid evidence that would have exonerated Jan. 6th defendants and then destroyed that evidence when they saw that Republicans were taking control of the House and would be able to investigate their actions is indicative of an administration with things to hide! The number of last minute pardons done with the auto pen was staggering. When YOU folks were in power you used that power to prosecute conservatives (giving us a whole new term..."lawfare") but when you lost that power you hide behind preemptive pardons. It's sleazy. But sleazy is what the modern Democratic Party is all about!

Lies. What is your source on the claim that they hid and destroyed evidence? There’s no evidence that the Jan. 6 Committee destroyed exculpatory evidence. By rule, their records were archived with the National Archives, and much is public already. Claims about ‘hidden evidence’ come from Republicans frustrated that not every staff note or video was published, but that doesn’t mean anything was destroyed. That's the problem with the right, they can tell you anything, with zero evidence and you will believe it. But then you hold democrats to the highest standards ever.

Trump literally tried to steal an election and you don't care. It obviously wasn't politically motivated to investigate him for this, and there obviously was way more than enough reason to investigate it.
Mike Pence literally said the following:
_________
I think it’s important that the American people know what happened in the days before January 6,” Pence said. “President Trump demanded that I use my authority as vice president presiding over the count of the Electoral College to essentially overturn the election by returning or literally rejecting votes. I had no authority to do that.”

For those who might doubt him, Pence urged them to “read the indictment.”
__________
The indictment Pence is talking about here is:
The federal indictment of Donald Trump (filed by Jack Smith), United States v. Trump, Case No. 1:23-cr-00257 (D.D.C.)
https://www.justice.gov/storage/US_v_Trump_23_cr_257.pdf

You're so brainwashed. Even your own former VP is telling you that things went down, and you still just mindlessly choose to believe everything against your God, Trump, is fake.

Biden issued 80 pardons. Trump issued 144 pardons in his first term and he has issued 1,500+ so far in his 2nd term.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

This is what democrats want us to unify with.

TikTok User Calls For Charlie Kirk's Widow and Children, Elected Officials, CEOs to be Murdered Next - “His Wife and Kids Need to Go Too... Get Rid of the Whole Family" (VIDEO) | The Gateway Pundit | by Jordan Conradson

Many are now calling for an investigation into a black woman after she called for a “revolution” and the murder of Charlie Kirk’s entire family at a time of heightened political division and potential for violence following Charlie Kirk’s assassination.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

 

[White 6]

And yet violent crime in DC has nose dived since Trump sent in the Guard and other Federal agents? Care to take a crack at explaining why that is, White?

How many arrests have The Guard made? None? Right. Point made. As for the Federal agents that have made arrest, they are making a dent, but one that will stop, when they leave. Or is this to be a permanent occupation?

 

[WEATHER53]

Can you give me your source?

We don’t lead lib loons around by their little hands so that they can “understand@

 

[j-mac]

Samsung News

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Trump’s refusal to seek a common bipartisan way forward at a time of profound national anger, fear and mourning was a stunning move for a sitting US president, even by his standards.

Trump has never been a unifier. He loves division, even among his staff. He finds delight in seeing people tear each other apart. This is typical of a narcissistic bully. He will delight if a Dem is murdered, just like he sat and enjoyed the mob on J6 that he helped pay for.

Were you among those celebrating the assassination?

 

[Man With A Plan]

How many arrests have The Guard made? None? Right. Point made. As for the Federal agents that have made arrest, they are making a dent, but one that will stop, when they leave. Or is this to be a permanent occupation?

The "point" is that law enforcement works when there are law enforcement personnel on the ground! Let's be honest here, White...the left's experiment with defund the Police and no cash bail has been an abject failure to the point where it became an emergency.

Why you're fixated on the amount of arrests the Guard has made escapes me. What's obvious is the mere presence of the Guard is scaring away the criminals. They don't need to arrest anyone because there is almost zero violent crime where ever you see them and isn't that the ultimate goal? Preventing violent crime before it happens?

 

[Zincwarrior]

Unity?

With you???






"I'd rather rip my heart right out of my ribcage with my bare hands and then throw it on the floor and stomp on it till I die...

...then to spend... one more minute... with you."

You are pretty fucked up, Boomer.

 

[Missourian]

You are pretty fucked up, Boomer.

Boomer? I'm still in my 40s, old timer.

 

[mamooth]

Release the Epstein files, as Kirk wanted.

Anyone not demanding their immediate release is spitting on the legacy of Kirk.

 

[White 6]

The "point" is that law enforcement works when there are law enforcement personnel on the ground! Let's be honest here, White...the left's experiment with defund the Police and no cash bail has been an abject failure to the point where it became an emergency.

Why you're fixated on the amount of arrests the Guard has made escapes me. What's obvious is the mere presence of the Guard is scaring away the criminals. They don't need to arrest anyone because there is almost zero violent crime where ever you see them and isn't that the ultimate goal? Preventing violent crime before it happens?

Because the Guard is not law enforcement and never trained in law enforcement. They are being used as a symbol of Trump using military in American cities. The crime fighting is being done by the federal law enforcement agencies, working with the local police. If you are right wing and a trump fan, perhaps you favor a display of the military in American cities, without regard to the founding fathers and the constitution. I understand many on the right are not too fond of the constitution.

 

[Man With A Plan]

Because the Guard is not law enforcement and never trained in law enforcement. They are being used as a symbol of Trump using military in American cities. The crime fighting is being done by the federal law enforcement agencies, working with the local police. If you are right wing and a trump fan, perhaps you favor a display of the military in American cities, without regard to the founding fathers and the constitution. I understand many on the right are not too fond of the constitution.

The National Guard has been deployed for security in many instances, White. It's never been a Constitutional "crisis" until Donald Trump did it in California and in DC!

 

[Zincwarrior]

Because the Guard is not law enforcement and never trained in law enforcement. They are being used as a symbol of Trump using military in American cities. The crime fighting is being done by the federal law enforcement agencies, working with the local police. If you are right wing and a trump fan, perhaps you favor a display of the military in American cities, without regard to the founding fathers and the constitution. I understand many on the right are not too fond of the constitution.

Its desentisizing the US to it. Its a prerequisite for declaring nationwide martial law.

Can't happen? Why not?

 

[Mac1958]

Trump doesn't want unity, he wants revenge, at any cost.

Literally, at ANY cost.

 

[Man With A Plan]

Its desentisizing the US to it. Its a prerequisite for declaring nationwide martial law.

Can't happen? Why not?

Trump is too busy fixing all of the things the last administration fucked up to bother with that. He'll send Federal agents into a few cities run by far left liberals that are suffering from rampant crime and shame the rest into doing something about their polices that have created that crime! He doesn't need to declare martial law. He just has to show people that they don't have to suffer under Democratic rule.

 

[White 6]

The National Guard has been deployed for security in many instances, White. It's never been a Constitutional "crisis" until Donald Trump did it in California and in DC!

True. I was on one, myself. When we pulled up, the shooting always stopped, possibly having something to do with the fact, curfew was in place, machine guns were mounted, and they were pretty sure, we would not let them continue to shoot around the Guardsmen, manning the fire trucks, without returning fire (possibly in mass), ourselves. After all, it was a declared emergency, the Democrat Governor (at request of the Democrat Mayor) had called us out to control. Quite a bit different than the present situation, attempting to control crime. Though, I must point out, the 22 federal law enforcement agencies with power to arrest appear to be doing a good job.