Trump needs to start giving speeches partially in Spanish and we should consider making Venezuela the 51st state

[FDR_Reagan]

KKK garbage but still Funny:.

..Ziopuppet ...Zionism ..

 

[FDR_Reagan]

Trump is incapable of giving a coherent speech in English. He’s too stupid to learn a second language.

There is no love or hospitality in the USA. Trump just showed Latin America was the USA is all about: hate, violence, and taking what you want by force.

Rubio is more focused

 

[FDR_Reagan]

This is the difference between the current Zionist ...
Most Jews ..

So first you went off topic, I exposed you're upset that Iran lost a muscle in Venezuela and you are propagating about something else, entirely.

And of course:

You assume you know my background so you keep your repetitive failed talk about Z and J.

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You’re exploiting Jewish guilt as a propaganda tactic? That’s not moral outrage—it’s manipulation.

Where are the Arab and Muslim leaders publicly owning responsibility? Where is their outrage at militant leadership that embeds itself among civilians and deliberately turns suffering into a strategy?

Shame on you for playing directly into the hands of those who benefit from civilian deaths. You know very well how casualties are orchestrated by genocidets Islamist Arab "Palestinian" leadership methods to generate sympathy, [they brag about it], and how casualty narratives are selectively constructed, inflated, and weaponized for international pressure—yet you repeat them uncritically because they fit your agenda.

By amplifying this propaganda, you’re not protecting civilians—you’re enabling the very actors who prolong the violence and profit from the bloodshed.

 

[kyzr]

Do you believe they would vote to be even poorer US half-colony? I don't. Trump's demands mean loss of significant money, without earning anything instead.

I agree that VZ would probably reject becoming a US colony.
What Trump "demands" are you referring to?
As far as I know, Trump just wants US oil companies to pay for oil infrastructure upgrades to get oil revenue flowing again.
One problem is that the VZ Constitution requires new election within 30-days after a president is removed, and Trump wants to govern VZ "temporarily" for longer than that, something's got to give.

Many of them believe that it is much better to die, fighting for their freedom, than to live under US-yoke.

What yoke? Maduro was a brutal dictator, that's a yoke. 8-million people left VZ. Machado is headed back to VZ setting up a political battle for the soul of VZ with Maduro's gang. She is dumb for going back so soon.

Do you know what "Bandera de Guerra a Muerte" means?

google says: "flag of war to death"
Taking on the US military means death, so we'll see. 32 Cubans FAFO.

 

[Zavulon]

I agree that VZ would probably reject becoming a US colony.
What Trump "demands" are you referring to?

Not me, "Politico" site.

https://www.politico.com/news/2026/01/05/trump-demands-venezuela-leader-00711728

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U.S. officials have told Delcy Rodriguez that they want to see at least three moves from her: cracking down on drug flows; kicking out Iranian, Cuban and other operatives of countries or networks hostile to Washington; and stopping the sale of oil to U.S. adversaries, according to a U.S. official familiar with the situation and a person familiar with the administration’s internal discussions.

U.S. officials also expect Rodriguez — the former vice president now running Venezuela — to eventually facilitate free elections and step aside, the two people said. But the deadlines for the demands are fluid, and U.S. officials stress there are no elections imminent.
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All those three demands means losing money, not earning them.

As far as I know, Trump just wants US oil companies to pay for oil infrastructure upgrades to get oil revenue flowing again.

Actually, he demands much more than that. At least, if we believe journalists.

One problem is that the VZ Constitution requires new election within 30-days after a president is removed, and Trump wants to govern VZ "temporarily" for longer than that, something's got to give.

Technically, Maduro wasn't "removed". He is still VZ president in captivity and held as a hostage. He can't give orders, but he is still a president.

What yoke? Maduro was a brutal dictator, that's a yoke.

Good or bad, but 30% of VZ population depend on state's support. May be, some people saw him as bad, but significant part still supports him.

8-million people left VZ.

So, his people are multipling and colonise other countries. It is good, not bad. Venezuelans are spreading and taking new lands, and US-citisens are dying out and can't protect "their" land.

Machado is headed back to VZ setting up a political battle for the soul of VZ with Maduro's gang. She is dumb for going back so soon.

May be she is dumb. Or may be, she espect that US forces are going to win "elections" for her. Like, you know, that guy in Southern Vietnam.

google says: "flag of war to death"
Taking on the US military means death, so we'll see. 32 Cubans FAFO.

No. It's more like "Give me death or give me freedom". Many of them are ready to fight the war for independence, even if it mean a certain death for it. It's Simon Bolivar's flag, and he lost his war, but the idea of freedom wasn't defeated.

 

[Invisibleflash]

It may have been morally correct to remove Maduro. That is debatable, but what is not debatable is that we broke international law. But we can get over this with a few actions ….perhaps by admitting a lot of Venezuelan immigrants to America. They deserve it because we are now involved and responsible for their country.

No more half measures as the popular saying goes. We could perhaps install a friendly government, but it comes with many concerns so making Venezuela the 51st state must be considered.

And Trump should start giving species partially in Spanish. In order to reach out to the Hispanic people and Latin America. And we also now have a duty to completely and utterly reject any racism against so-called brown people. Anytime you see anybody complaining about black or brown immigrants we must shoot it down…. In order to show the people of Latin America the love and hospitality America is all about.

The AR-15 forum banned me years ago, but I still read it. The vast consensus at that forum was...Trump should take over the world.

 

[Zavulon]

Trump is incapable of giving a coherent speech in English. He’s too stupid to learn a second language.

There is no love or hospitality in the USA. Trump just showed Latin America what the USA is all about: hate, violence, and taking what you want by force.

So, let's see, what will unite Latin America better - American hate or Russian love?


Anyway, when people united - they are undefeatable.

 

[Hafar1014]

Do you believe they would vote to be even poorer US half-colony? I don't. Trump's demands mean loss of significant money, without earning anything instead.
Many of them believe that it is much better to die, fighting for their freedom, than to live under US-yoke.
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Do you know what "Bandera de Guerra a Muerte" means?

These posts are either a bot or mindless idiot as they have no basis in actual thought

 

[Zavulon]

These posts are either a bot or mindless idiot as they have no basis in actual thought

May be. Or, may be, it's just your inability to listen and understand other people.

 

[Hafar1014]

May be. Or, may be, it's just your inability to listen and understand other people.

I have graduate degree in psychology Im a trained listener. These posts have no basis in rational thought

 

[Zavulon]

I have graduate degree in psychology Im a trained listener.

Prove it. Try to listen me. Don't reject everything you don't like or don't understand.

These posts have no basis in rational thought

What exactly has no basis in rational thought?

 

[Hafar1014]

Prove it. Try to listen me. Don't reject everything you don't like or don't understand.


What exactly has no basis in rational thought?

The premise of you posts have no basis in realty What follows is mierda

 

[BS Filter]

It may have been morally correct to remove Maduro. That is debatable, but what is not debatable is that we broke international law. But we can get over this with a few actions ….perhaps by admitting a lot of Venezuelan immigrants to America. They deserve it because we are now involved and responsible for their country.

No more half measures as the popular saying goes. We could perhaps install a friendly government, but it comes with many concerns so making Venezuela the 51st state must be considered.

And Trump should start giving species partially in Spanish. In order to reach out to the Hispanic people and Latin America. And we also now have a duty to completely and utterly reject any racism against so-called brown people. Anytime you see anybody complaining about black or brown immigrants we must shoot it down…. In order to show the people of Latin America the love and hospitality America is all about.

There is no such thing as "International Law".

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

So, let's see, what will unite Latin America better - American hate or Russian love?


Anyway, when people united - they are undefeatable.

Anyway, when people united - they are undefeatable.

I guess the people of the Soviet Union weren't united, eh comrade?

 

[Zavulon]

Anyway, when people united - they are undefeatable.

I guess the people of the Soviet Union weren't united, eh comrade?

Yep. Mostly, they were united by two things - believe in socialism and pressure of foreigners. When West became more socialistic and East more capitalistic, the first reason faded. And the new aggressiveness of the West, their attempts to build Pax Americana, they pushed together even such different peoples as Russians, Indians, Chinese, Latin Americans and Africans.

 

[kyzr]

Not me, "Politico" site.
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U.S. officials have told Delcy Rodriguez that they want to see at least three moves from her: cracking down on drug flows; kicking out Iranian, Cuban and other operatives of countries or networks hostile to Washington; and stopping the sale of oil to U.S. adversaries, according to a U.S. official familiar with the situation and a person familiar with the administration’s internal discussions. U.S. officials also expect Rodriguez — the former vice president now running Venezuela — to eventually facilitate free elections and step aside, the two people said. But the deadlines for the demands are fluid, and U.S. officials stress there are no elections imminent. All those three demands means losing money, not earning them.

Key word there is "demand". Delcy doesn't want to raise Bolivar's flag and get hammered by the US military.
Much smarter to go along, take the money, I'm sure there will be a significant bonus for her, and see a peaceful transition to democracy. She can do the the easy way, or the hard way.

Actually, he demands much more than that. At least, if we believe journalists.

You're probably right. We'll see how this plays out. Trump has a lot of cards to play.

Technically, Maduro wasn't "removed". He is still VZ president in captivity and held as a hostage. He can't give orders, but he is still a president.

He thinks he is, after a few months in prison he may not be so sure he's still president.

Good or bad, but 30% of VZ population depend on state's support. May be, some people saw him as bad, but significant part still supports him.

I'm sure the drug cartels and the other criminals still want to keep the cash flowing. We'll see. I hear they are running short of speed boats and drivers.

So, his people are multiplying and colonize other countries. It is good, not bad. Venezuelans are spreading and taking new lands, and US-citizens are dying out and can't protect "their" land.

Its bad when too many are criminals from Maduro's prisons or TDA gang members. The honest hard working people will want to return to Venezuela to rebuild.

May be she is dumb. Or maybe, she expects that US forces are going to win "elections" for her. Like, you know, that guy in Southern Vietnam.

She only needs honest elections to win, and probably a lot of body guards.

The Diem coup refers to the military overthrow of South Vietnamese President Ngô Đình Diệm on November 1-2, 1963, which was supported by the United States due to Diệm's repressive regime and failure to effectively combat the communist threat. The coup resulted in Diệm's assassination and a shift in power to a military revolutionary

No. It's more like "Give me death or give me freedom". Many of them are ready to fight the war for independence, even if it mean a certain death for it. It's Simon Bolivar's flag, and he lost his war, but the idea of freedom wasn't defeated.

Machado needs to run on "freedom and wealth". The US government doesn't want to "nation-build". All we want to do is get the VZ oil fields producing, get the cash flowing, and get out of the way.

 

[kyzr]

There is no such thing as "International Law".

There might be "International Laws" but there are no cops to enforce them.

 

[BS Filter]

There might be "International Laws" but there are no cops to enforce them.

Exactly. Therefore, there is no such thing.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Yep. Mostly, they were united by two things - believe in socialism and pressure of foreigners. When West became more socialistic and East more capitalistic, the first reason faded. And the new aggressiveness of the West, their attempts to build Pax Americana, they pushed together even such different peoples as Russians, Indians, Chinese, Latin Americans and Africans.

Mostly, they were united by two things - believe in socialism and pressure of foreigners.

I guess the people were united against communism.

 

[Zavulon]

Key word there is "demand". Delcy doesn't want to raise Bolivar's flag and get hammered by the US military.
Much smarter to go along, take the money, I'm sure there will be a significant bonus for her, and see a peaceful transition to democracy. She can do the the easy way, or the hard way.

Hey, may be, Bolivarian Republic is not a "democracy" in your understanding of the term, but it is not a magic kingdom with all-mighty Dark Witch of West, controlling everything and everybody by her magic power. Every human in the realmworld has as much power over other human being as it allows him/her.
Lets play the game. Señora Rodriguez gather all rich men in her country and say them:
1) You, oil magnates, won't sell oil neither to Russian, nor to Chima, nor anybody else. Only to the USA. But the USA are not really interested, either. They have Canada and Orinoco basin oil is just to expensive to drill and transport. So, you are losing your money and out of business.
2) You, drug makers and trafficers, you are out of business either. You are losing your money, your freedom and, likely, your life.
3) You, mercenaries, all your contracts with Russia, China, Iran, North Korea and null and void. May be, CIA will hire some of you, but most of you are out of business and, likely, out of life.
Then, she turns to her poor citizens and say:
4) you, poor people, you won't have cheap social food or social gasoline. You can go in jungles and search for food there, but most of you will die out because of starvation this year.
Then, she turns to her army and bodyguards and say: I can't pay you, because we don't have any tax incomes, but please, defend me from all my enemies.

What do you think, how long will she survive in this case?

And, from the other hand, there are ambassadors of China, Russia, Iran, North Korea, Columbia and many other countries. And they say her: "Señora, please, lure American soldiers in Venezuela. We'll pay you more than the whole West payed to Zelenskiy. Three hundred billion dollars just for starters. It is $10K for every single citizen of Venezuela if you divide them equally. Given your low prices and expenses those are good money.

You're probably right. We'll see how this plays out. Trump has a lot of cards to play.

Actually, not. He has two types of cards: money and military force. He is not going to give them significant money, and I'm not sure he has enough of military force to genocide at least half of Venezuela's population.

He thinks he is, after a few months in prison he may not be so sure he's still president.

It's not about him. It is about señora Rodriguez and her legitimate ruling.

I'm sure the drug cartels and the other criminals still want to keep the cash flowing. We'll see. I hear they are running short of speed boats and drivers.

Of course not. They are making their preparations to defeat the USA, either.

Its bad when too many are criminals from Maduro's prisons or TDA gang members. The honest hard working people will want to return to Venezuela to rebuild.

Only if there will be money. And Trump's rule isn't about giving them money. It is about stealing their money and stealing opportunities to earn those money.

She only needs honest elections to win, and probably a lot of body guards.

She can't win honest elections without giving actual money and actual opportunities to earn those money. Empty promises rarely work.

Machado needs to run on "freedom and wealth".

She didn't demonstrated opportunities to earn money. All her program (Trump's demands) is about losing money.

The US government doesn't want to "nation-build". All we want to do is get the VZ oil fields producing, get the cash flowing, and get out of the way.

C'mon. Orinoco oil is very expensive. It takes up to $50 per barrel to drill it and deliver to a port. It's quite low-marginal product. There hardly is a profit in drilling this oil with current prices, and oil companies are not charity. They need profit.
Trump might think about iron, it's more marginal, but nowadays there is low demand for iron in the USA. (But it still can be useful for future reindustrialisation).

But Machado can't suggest her people $300Bn just for starters. Rodriguez can.