Trump Makes Reiner's Murder All About Him

Oh you guys are talking about force just now you have to hide it with the fickle whims of the mob.

No, what you want is for the State to force me to believe something that is bullshit, despite your protests to the contrary. You are a liar.
The state can’t force you to believe something any more than I can. Belief isn’t enforceable; only behavior is. Accusing others of “force” doesn’t change that. And thanks for the name-calling, it really just reinforces how little actual argument you’re offering.

You also aren’t talking to “you guys.” You’re talking to me. Framing this as some coordinated group demanding obedience is just another way of avoiding what’s actually being said.

The irony here is that you seem to think freedom of speech means your statements should be consequence-free. That’s not how it works. You’re free to say whatever you want. Other people are equally free to disagree, criticize, or decide they don’t want to associate with you. None of that is coercion, and none of it is the state forcing belief.

At this point we’re no longer having a substantive discussion. You’re asserting coercion where none exists, substituting accusations for arguments, and refusing to distinguish between belief, law, and social response. I’ve laid out my position clearly. If you want to engage with what I actually said rather than inventing force or imputing motives, feel free. Otherwise, I’m done here.
 
No idea what that fool might have believed or assumed but he said it because he is a nasty, petty, spoiled child..
The cult screams about what individual citizens say about Trump, and they have no understanding that what a President of the United States says is different. A CHILD should understand it, but they don't.

Under normal circumstances, a President of the United States is held to higher standards, because he represents 330 million people and the most powerful nation on Earth. And because he's so powerful, it's easy to rise above the fray. EASY.

But not for these folks. He acts like a gutter slug 24/7/365, and they cheer him. It says a lot about them. It always has. This has never been about HIM.
 
I know what you mean, but consider that Trump is almost 80 years old and he is tired, he is fading. He has been through the ringer these past ten years more than any ten other politicians. And this job is all work, work, work. I think it is getting to him. Nothing but meetings, lectures, questions and speeches day in and day out. I think Trump needs to take a long vacation.
You forgot to mention he’s old AF.
 

Um, yeah, we've seen Trump's actions.

He's wrecked the economy, sent Masked Thugs out to round up children (Hey, I guess you don't care about Children when they are brown and no longer in Fetus form), and debased the presidency by being crude, nasty, and unpleasent.

The real story about Trump will be how cowardly the GOP was in the face of him.
 
Reiner was militantly anti Trump and has said things like he is Hitler and will end democracy if he isn't stopped.... Reiner has a lot of influence and exposure and sources to spew out his hatred of Trump...
And Donald Trump a year and a half ago nearly had his head blown off by some nut hater....
So I don't blame Trump for what he posted....

Um, sure, pointing out that Trump is a fascist is more than a good enough reason to dunk on a man when he's dead.

Trump had his head nearly blown off by a right-wing gun nut who wanted attention. Nothing to do with Reiner.
 
The cult screams about what individual citizens say about Trump, and they have no understanding that what a President of the United States says is different. A CHILD should understand it, but they don't.

Under normal circumstances, a President of the United States is held to higher standards, because he represents 330 million people and the most powerful nation on Earth. And because he's so powerful, it's easy to rise above the fray. EASY.

But not for these folks. He acts like a gutter slug 24/7/365, and they cheer him. It says a lot about them. It always has. This has never been about HIM.
I’m not a fan of what President Trump said, but you can’t spend your life calling him every name in the book, then expect that the target of your tantrums feels sorrow over your demise.
 
I’m not a fan of what President Trump said, but you can’t spend your life calling him every name in the book, then expect that the target of your tantrums feels sorrow over your demise.

Or you could just say, "Hopes and Prayers for his family." It's meaningless and shallow, but at least it's not in poor taste.
 
Trump’s comments were on brand, though I wish he had been more metered.

Reiner spread lies and hatred regarding Trump. He helped radicalize the type of people who tried to murder Trump. I certainly understand the vitriol Trump espoused.

Lefties claim when conservatives say negative shit, it is a dog whistle for violence.

The same should go the other way…unless you are just a full of shit liar.
 
Trump’s comments were on brand, though I wish he had been more metered.

Reiner spread lies and hatred regarding Trump. He helped radicalize the type of people who tried to murder Trump. I certainly understand the vitriol Trump espoused.

Lefties claim when conservatives say negative shit, it is a dog whistle for violence.

The same should go the other way…unless you are just a full of shit liar.

The guys who tried to murder Trump were a "right wing gun nut" and a "Soldier of Fortune Wannabe".

They weren't some dope smoking hippies who would care what "Meathead" from All in the Family had to say about something.
 
Oh, look we are back to the Fetus Porn.


Well, you are free to think that, but I'll trust the people with the medical and psychological degrees.



In short, those uppity people are asking for what you and I have by default.

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Same bullshit from one of the board's biggest bullshitters.
 
The state can’t force you to believe something any more than I can. Belief isn’t enforceable; only behavior is. Accusing others of “force” doesn’t change that. And thanks for the name-calling, it really just reinforces how little actual argument you’re offering.

You also aren’t talking to “you guys.” You’re talking to me. Framing this as some coordinated group demanding obedience is just another way of avoiding what’s actually being said.

The irony here is that you seem to think freedom of speech means your statements should be consequence-free. That’s not how it works. You’re free to say whatever you want. Other people are equally free to disagree, criticize, or decide they don’t want to associate with you. None of that is coercion, and none of it is the state forcing belief.

At this point we’re no longer having a substantive discussion. You’re asserting coercion where none exists, substituting accusations for arguments, and refusing to distinguish between belief, law, and social response. I’ve laid out my position clearly. If you want to engage with what I actually said rather than inventing force or imputing motives, feel free. Otherwise, I’m done here.

So the government should be able to force me to call a man a woman? **** you.

There should be ZERO consequences for calling a man pretending to be a woman a man. Again, **** you.

Run away, you gutless coward poseur hack.
 
While Trump could have been graceful in this matter, that is not his style - as we all know. But his visceral reaction is understandable when you look at how Reiner dedicated his entire political life (as opposed to his personal life and his show-biz life) to doing everything he could imagine to slander and defeat Trump.

Have a look...


Why does nobody ever state the obvious: that Reiner was not acting on "All in the Family"? That was the real person.
 
Um, sure, pointing out that Trump is a fascist is more than a good enough reason to dunk on a man when he's dead.

Trump had his head nearly blown off by a right-wing gun nut who wanted attention. Nothing to do with Reiner.
People calling Trump a fascist is what put a target on him... but not you because no one gives a **** what your dumbass thinks about anything fagboi.....
 
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**** Meathead... the nation is better off without him here....
 
Many Democrats celebrated when Charlie Kirk was assassinated so don't be so self righteous.

rob reiner wasn't one of them.




donny - assuming it was one of his MAGAts, almost sounded like it was justified.
 
People calling Trump a fascist is what put a target on him... but not you because no one gives a **** what your dumbass thinks about anything fagboi.....

No, what put a target on Trump is being famous.

Crooks was a right-wing gun nut who wanted to be famous.

The other guy was a Soldier of fortune wannabe.
 
No, what put a target on Trump is being famous.

Crooks was a right-wing gun nut who wanted to be famous.

The other guy was a Soldier of fortune wannabe.
So if we all start calling you a threat and asking people to stop you... you are okay with that?...
 
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