Trump is taking hydroxychloroquine !

[flacaltenn]

I read every article you posted and understand that it is in testing for use as a preventative, but nobody in any of those was willing to say more than it is an attractive idea, but not proven.

PROVEN -- in science -- is an illusive thing.. Because science is actually VERY SLOW... And during a time when 10s of 1000s of lives are in the balance -- sometimes you have to call some audibles.. Like with face masks for instance.. STILL not proven to be effective -- but REQUIRED BY LAW in many places...

This whole experience LAYS BARE how slowly and non-exactly science works... We DO NOT STILL KNOW the "death rate"" from Covid 19.,.. Dont have a CLUE how many have actually been infected...


But we DO KNOW how slim the "treatment options" are for this disease. And ranting about political implications of one of the more USED drugs in this fight -- makes you look foolish...

If 10s of thousands of front line workers are NOW BEING STUDIED for using HCQuine as a preventative -- ----- listen carefully ----

------ that's all the "science" you're gonna get if you're suddenly getting worse WITHOUT HCQuine and looking at your will and testament..

All this hype about Remdesivir is the same horseshit.. DID NOT prevent any deaths in it's 1st puny trial.. BARELY made an effect on the time to recover.. That's again -- ALL the science you're gonna get right now,,,,


BUT -- The POLITICAL HOWLING AND GNASHING of teeth on this is endless and frightening..

Oh, on treatment I agree. I do not ask my doctor for specific drug treatments, as he is a class act I have been to for years, but as I told someone else on a similar thread or even possibly this one, If my doctor (and it will be my doctor) sees me at the hospital here in town and says "*****" I want to try Hydroxychloroquin on you, I'm down with it. As for trying to get into a clinical trial to try the drug on the chance that I might come in contact and become infected? NO. He would never suggest it in the first place if I wasn't sick. Have you read the complete monogram from the PDR on Hydroxychloroquine? It's been around 17 years or so and has known dangers.

No man -- you're all screwed up with bad info... HCQ has been AROUND for SIXTY FIVE fucking years. Not 17.. It's in the top 50 most prescribed drugs in the world every one of those years.. They manufacture something like 8 Metrics TONS of it A MONTH.. It's routinely used not just for malaria prevention but for RhArthritis and Lupus.. And I've heard SEVERAL of those specialists state that they've NEVER had a patient with serious complications from the drug..

THOSE are FACTS...

As far as whatever you THINK YOU read in the PDR -- like all drugs, it's ALL about dose.. For malaria control, it's 200mg/day.. I've been on it twice in my world travels.. The good covid results have been found with 400mg/day... It's ONLY when you get to 600mg for extended days that ANY of heart issues start to appear...

So -- there's been some REALLY bad (scientifically) studies.. The Brazil study found heart issues at 600mg/day.. DUUHHH.. The fucked up VA study was on patients just about to go on respirators.. If you use it EARLY for Covid, like THOUSANDS of doctors in the fight have done, it DOES shorten the time to recovery.,..

INTERESTINGLY -- Some of the RhArthritis and Lupus docs have POLLED their current patients.. And with a few EXCEPTIONS -- maybe one or two -- The VAST majority of 10s of thousands of people taking HCQuine prophylactically for those diseases have NOT contracted reported cases of Covid 19... The GOOD studies show a definite decrease in time to end of symptoms...

 

[flacaltenn]

Here's the bottom line.. When the pandemic overran the world -- THERE WERE NO DRUGS "approved" or "scientifically tested" to treat Covid 19.... PONDER THAT FOR A MOMENT.. NOTHING.....

Whatchagonnado? Just like the screwy guidance we got on masks and are STILL GETTING -- Fauci says even today that masks are a FEEL GOOD thing.. Might even INCREASE your chance of infection, but it's a public placebo to make an EMOTIONAL statement.. HCQuine has PROVEN to be -- more than a "feel good" thing.. And people NEED some hope when a dread disease with no cure strikes and the BEST docs are improvising..

 

[flacaltenn]

It's really about the money., This entire HCQuine thing.. A 65 yr old drug with MASSIVE application around the world -- that sells for just $0.60 a dose just CANNOT BE... Needs to be PROFIT and research $$$$$$$ spread around everywhere for all those primadonna research academics to STUDY how to make a $3.50 a dose drug that does essentially the SAME THING...

Those research $$$$$ are ALWAYS there for a good crisis... And science and govt is just a very explosive mixture when it comes to GRANTS and EGO and Pharm profits and licensing...

 

[AntonToo]

Trump is taking hydroxychloroquine !

1. Obese
2. Old
3. Has a heart condition

...what could possibly go wrong?

 

[Polishprince]

Trump is taking hydroxychloroquine !

1. Obese
2. Old
3. Has a heart condition

...what could possibly go wrong?

President Trump's doctor is one of the finest in the world, tremendous individual who is supremely knowledgable. Believe me, you would be better off having a doctor like Trump's.

If this fabulous physician thinks that hydroxychloroquine is appropriate for his fantastic patient to take, I'll take his work for it.

 

[White 6]

I read every article you posted and understand that it is in testing for use as a preventative, but nobody in any of those was willing to say more than it is an attractive idea, but not proven.

PROVEN -- in science -- is an illusive thing.. Because science is actually VERY SLOW... And during a time when 10s of 1000s of lives are in the balance -- sometimes you have to call some audibles.. Like with face masks for instance.. STILL not proven to be effective -- but REQUIRED BY LAW in many places...

This whole experience LAYS BARE how slowly and non-exactly science works... We DO NOT STILL KNOW the "death rate"" from Covid 19.,.. Dont have a CLUE how many have actually been infected...


But we DO KNOW how slim the "treatment options" are for this disease. And ranting about political implications of one of the more USED drugs in this fight -- makes you look foolish...

If 10s of thousands of front line workers are NOW BEING STUDIED for using HCQuine as a preventative -- ----- listen carefully ----

------ that's all the "science" you're gonna get if you're suddenly getting worse WITHOUT HCQuine and looking at your will and testament..

All this hype about Remdesivir is the same horseshit.. DID NOT prevent any deaths in it's 1st puny trial.. BARELY made an effect on the time to recover.. That's again -- ALL the science you're gonna get right now,,,,


BUT -- The POLITICAL HOWLING AND GNASHING of teeth on this is endless and frightening..

Oh, on treatment I agree. I do not ask my doctor for specific drug treatments, as he is a class act I have been to for years, but as I told someone else on a similar thread or even possibly this one, If my doctor (and it will be my doctor) sees me at the hospital here in town and says "*****" I want to try Hydroxychloroquin on you, I'm down with it. As for trying to get into a clinical trial to try the drug on the chance that I might come in contact and become infected? NO. He would never suggest it in the first place if I wasn't sick. Have you read the complete monogram from the PDR on Hydroxychloroquine? It's been around 17 years or so and has known dangers.

No man -- you're all screwed up with bad info... HCQ has been AROUND for SIXTY FIVE fucking years. Not 17.. It's in the top 50 most prescribed drugs in the world every one of those years.. They manufacture something like 8 Metrics TONS of it A MONTH.. It's routinely used not just for malaria prevention but for RhArthritis and Lupus.. And I've heard SEVERAL of those specialists state that they've NEVER had a patient with serious complications from the drug..

THOSE are FACTS...

As far as whatever you THINK YOU read in the PDR -- like all drugs, it's ALL about dose.. For malaria control, it's 200mg/day.. I've been on it twice in my world travels.. The good covid results have been found with 400mg/day... It's ONLY when you get to 600mg for extended days that ANY of heart issues start to appear...

So -- there's been some REALLY bad (scientifically) studies.. The Brazil study found heart issues at 600mg/day.. DUUHHH.. The fucked up VA study was on patients just about to go on respirators.. If you use it EARLY for Covid, like THOUSANDS of doctors in the fight have done, it DOES shorten the time to recovery.,..

INTERESTINGLY -- Some of the RhArthritis and Lupus docs have POLLED their current patients.. And with a few EXCEPTIONS -- maybe one or two -- The VAST majority of 10s of thousands of people taking HCQuine prophylactically for those diseases have NOT contracted reported cases of Covid 19... The GOOD studies show a definite decrease in time to end of symptoms...

I suspect it is usually used where it is not contrary to the guidelines to patients where it is appropriate, not as a panacea to the masses. I am sure it is an excellent Malaria drug. If I go to some place where Malaria is common I will be glad to take it. Symptoms of Malaria differ from COVID. Jury of science is out on treatment (some say yes, some say no), but it is not even close to proving to prevent COVID. I'll tell you straight, being told try it, what can it hurt is certainly not evidence to to influence anyone but a follower.

 

[flacaltenn]

I read every article you posted and understand that it is in testing for use as a preventative, but nobody in any of those was willing to say more than it is an attractive idea, but not proven.

PROVEN -- in science -- is an illusive thing.. Because science is actually VERY SLOW... And during a time when 10s of 1000s of lives are in the balance -- sometimes you have to call some audibles.. Like with face masks for instance.. STILL not proven to be effective -- but REQUIRED BY LAW in many places...

This whole experience LAYS BARE how slowly and non-exactly science works... We DO NOT STILL KNOW the "death rate"" from Covid 19.,.. Dont have a CLUE how many have actually been infected...


But we DO KNOW how slim the "treatment options" are for this disease. And ranting about political implications of one of the more USED drugs in this fight -- makes you look foolish...

If 10s of thousands of front line workers are NOW BEING STUDIED for using HCQuine as a preventative -- ----- listen carefully ----

------ that's all the "science" you're gonna get if you're suddenly getting worse WITHOUT HCQuine and looking at your will and testament..

All this hype about Remdesivir is the same horseshit.. DID NOT prevent any deaths in it's 1st puny trial.. BARELY made an effect on the time to recover.. That's again -- ALL the science you're gonna get right now,,,,


BUT -- The POLITICAL HOWLING AND GNASHING of teeth on this is endless and frightening..

Oh, on treatment I agree. I do not ask my doctor for specific drug treatments, as he is a class act I have been to for years, but as I told someone else on a similar thread or even possibly this one, If my doctor (and it will be my doctor) sees me at the hospital here in town and says "*****" I want to try Hydroxychloroquin on you, I'm down with it. As for trying to get into a clinical trial to try the drug on the chance that I might come in contact and become infected? NO. He would never suggest it in the first place if I wasn't sick. Have you read the complete monogram from the PDR on Hydroxychloroquine? It's been around 17 years or so and has known dangers.

No man -- you're all screwed up with bad info... HCQ has been AROUND for SIXTY FIVE fucking years. Not 17.. It's in the top 50 most prescribed drugs in the world every one of those years.. They manufacture something like 8 Metrics TONS of it A MONTH.. It's routinely used not just for malaria prevention but for RhArthritis and Lupus.. And I've heard SEVERAL of those specialists state that they've NEVER had a patient with serious complications from the drug..

THOSE are FACTS...

As far as whatever you THINK YOU read in the PDR -- like all drugs, it's ALL about dose.. For malaria control, it's 200mg/day.. I've been on it twice in my world travels.. The good covid results have been found with 400mg/day... It's ONLY when you get to 600mg for extended days that ANY of heart issues start to appear...

So -- there's been some REALLY bad (scientifically) studies.. The Brazil study found heart issues at 600mg/day.. DUUHHH.. The fucked up VA study was on patients just about to go on respirators.. If you use it EARLY for Covid, like THOUSANDS of doctors in the fight have done, it DOES shorten the time to recovery.,..

INTERESTINGLY -- Some of the RhArthritis and Lupus docs have POLLED their current patients.. And with a few EXCEPTIONS -- maybe one or two -- The VAST majority of 10s of thousands of people taking HCQuine prophylactically for those diseases have NOT contracted reported cases of Covid 19... The GOOD studies show a definite decrease in time to end of symptoms...

I suspect it is usually used where it is not contrary to the guidelines to patients where it is appropriate, not as a panacea to the masses. I am sure it is an excellent Malaria drug. If I go to some place where Malaria is common I will be glad to take it. Symptoms of Malaria differ from COVID. Jury of science is out on treatment (some say yes, some say no), but it is not even close to proving to prevent COVID. I'll tell you straight, being told try it, what can it hurt is certainly not evidence to to influence anyone but a follower.

I've been involved in getting equipment and drugs thru FDA trials.. It's NOT always a clear decision.. Especially during a crisis.. Like when we find that SOME of the 8 or 12 variety of CV test kits have REALLY BAD detection performance.. And the public is not wise to that..

It's never a clean process... And since there were NO DRUGS "tested and approved when the PEAK hit for Covid -- the EVIDENCE on HCQ for Covid is MORE than adequate for me to make an informed decision...

 

[Polishprince]

I read every article you posted and understand that it is in testing for use as a preventative, but nobody in any of those was willing to say more than it is an attractive idea, but not proven.

PROVEN -- in science -- is an illusive thing.. Because science is actually VERY SLOW... And during a time when 10s of 1000s of lives are in the balance -- sometimes you have to call some audibles.. Like with face masks for instance.. STILL not proven to be effective -- but REQUIRED BY LAW in many places...

This whole experience LAYS BARE how slowly and non-exactly science works... We DO NOT STILL KNOW the "death rate"" from Covid 19.,.. Dont have a CLUE how many have actually been infected...


But we DO KNOW how slim the "treatment options" are for this disease. And ranting about political implications of one of the more USED drugs in this fight -- makes you look foolish...

If 10s of thousands of front line workers are NOW BEING STUDIED for using HCQuine as a preventative -- ----- listen carefully ----

------ that's all the "science" you're gonna get if you're suddenly getting worse WITHOUT HCQuine and looking at your will and testament..

All this hype about Remdesivir is the same horseshit.. DID NOT prevent any deaths in it's 1st puny trial.. BARELY made an effect on the time to recover.. That's again -- ALL the science you're gonna get right now,,,,


BUT -- The POLITICAL HOWLING AND GNASHING of teeth on this is endless and frightening..

Oh, on treatment I agree. I do not ask my doctor for specific drug treatments, as he is a class act I have been to for years, but as I told someone else on a similar thread or even possibly this one, If my doctor (and it will be my doctor) sees me at the hospital here in town and says "*****" I want to try Hydroxychloroquin on you, I'm down with it. As for trying to get into a clinical trial to try the drug on the chance that I might come in contact and become infected? NO. He would never suggest it in the first place if I wasn't sick. Have you read the complete monogram from the PDR on Hydroxychloroquine? It's been around 17 years or so and has known dangers.

No man -- you're all screwed up with bad info... HCQ has been AROUND for SIXTY FIVE fucking years. Not 17.. It's in the top 50 most prescribed drugs in the world every one of those years.. They manufacture something like 8 Metrics TONS of it A MONTH.. It's routinely used not just for malaria prevention but for RhArthritis and Lupus.. And I've heard SEVERAL of those specialists state that they've NEVER had a patient with serious complications from the drug..

THOSE are FACTS...

As far as whatever you THINK YOU read in the PDR -- like all drugs, it's ALL about dose.. For malaria control, it's 200mg/day.. I've been on it twice in my world travels.. The good covid results have been found with 400mg/day... It's ONLY when you get to 600mg for extended days that ANY of heart issues start to appear...

So -- there's been some REALLY bad (scientifically) studies.. The Brazil study found heart issues at 600mg/day.. DUUHHH.. The fucked up VA study was on patients just about to go on respirators.. If you use it EARLY for Covid, like THOUSANDS of doctors in the fight have done, it DOES shorten the time to recovery.,..

INTERESTINGLY -- Some of the RhArthritis and Lupus docs have POLLED their current patients.. And with a few EXCEPTIONS -- maybe one or two -- The VAST majority of 10s of thousands of people taking HCQuine prophylactically for those diseases have NOT contracted reported cases of Covid 19... The GOOD studies show a definite decrease in time to end of symptoms...

I suspect it is usually used where it is not contrary to the guidelines to patients where it is appropriate, not as a panacea to the masses. I am sure it is an excellent Malaria drug. If I go to some place where Malaria is common I will be glad to take it. Symptoms of Malaria differ from COVID. Jury of science is out on treatment (some say yes, some say no), but it is not even close to proving to prevent COVID. I'll tell you straight, being told try it, what can it hurt is certainly not evidence to to influence anyone but a follower.

This drug is used for lupus , and other diseases as well, not just malaria. A friend of mine takes it for rheumatoid arthritis.

in any event, hydroxychloroquine is being used extensively for COVID and COVID prophylaxis in France, Italy, Turkey, India and Red China, among other tremendous countries. It may not be proven beyond all doubt to be effective with COVID by the FDA, but the international consensus gives the drug the heads up.

 

[White 6]

I read every article you posted and understand that it is in testing for use as a preventative, but nobody in any of those was willing to say more than it is an attractive idea, but not proven.

PROVEN -- in science -- is an illusive thing.. Because science is actually VERY SLOW... And during a time when 10s of 1000s of lives are in the balance -- sometimes you have to call some audibles.. Like with face masks for instance.. STILL not proven to be effective -- but REQUIRED BY LAW in many places...

This whole experience LAYS BARE how slowly and non-exactly science works... We DO NOT STILL KNOW the "death rate"" from Covid 19.,.. Dont have a CLUE how many have actually been infected...


But we DO KNOW how slim the "treatment options" are for this disease. And ranting about political implications of one of the more USED drugs in this fight -- makes you look foolish...

If 10s of thousands of front line workers are NOW BEING STUDIED for using HCQuine as a preventative -- ----- listen carefully ----

------ that's all the "science" you're gonna get if you're suddenly getting worse WITHOUT HCQuine and looking at your will and testament..

All this hype about Remdesivir is the same horseshit.. DID NOT prevent any deaths in it's 1st puny trial.. BARELY made an effect on the time to recover.. That's again -- ALL the science you're gonna get right now,,,,


BUT -- The POLITICAL HOWLING AND GNASHING of teeth on this is endless and frightening..

Oh, on treatment I agree. I do not ask my doctor for specific drug treatments, as he is a class act I have been to for years, but as I told someone else on a similar thread or even possibly this one, If my doctor (and it will be my doctor) sees me at the hospital here in town and says "*****" I want to try Hydroxychloroquin on you, I'm down with it. As for trying to get into a clinical trial to try the drug on the chance that I might come in contact and become infected? NO. He would never suggest it in the first place if I wasn't sick. Have you read the complete monogram from the PDR on Hydroxychloroquine? It's been around 17 years or so and has known dangers.

No man -- you're all screwed up with bad info... HCQ has been AROUND for SIXTY FIVE fucking years. Not 17.. It's in the top 50 most prescribed drugs in the world every one of those years.. They manufacture something like 8 Metrics TONS of it A MONTH.. It's routinely used not just for malaria prevention but for RhArthritis and Lupus.. And I've heard SEVERAL of those specialists state that they've NEVER had a patient with serious complications from the drug..

THOSE are FACTS...

As far as whatever you THINK YOU read in the PDR -- like all drugs, it's ALL about dose.. For malaria control, it's 200mg/day.. I've been on it twice in my world travels.. The good covid results have been found with 400mg/day... It's ONLY when you get to 600mg for extended days that ANY of heart issues start to appear...

So -- there's been some REALLY bad (scientifically) studies.. The Brazil study found heart issues at 600mg/day.. DUUHHH.. The fucked up VA study was on patients just about to go on respirators.. If you use it EARLY for Covid, like THOUSANDS of doctors in the fight have done, it DOES shorten the time to recovery.,..

INTERESTINGLY -- Some of the RhArthritis and Lupus docs have POLLED their current patients.. And with a few EXCEPTIONS -- maybe one or two -- The VAST majority of 10s of thousands of people taking HCQuine prophylactically for those diseases have NOT contracted reported cases of Covid 19... The GOOD studies show a definite decrease in time to end of symptoms...

I suspect it is usually used where it is not contrary to the guidelines to patients where it is appropriate, not as a panacea to the masses. I am sure it is an excellent Malaria drug. If I go to some place where Malaria is common I will be glad to take it. Symptoms of Malaria differ from COVID. Jury of science is out on treatment (some say yes, some say no), but it is not even close to proving to prevent COVID. I'll tell you straight, being told try it, what can it hurt is certainly not evidence to to influence anyone but a follower.

I've been involved in getting equipment and drugs thru FDA trials.. It's NOT always a clear decision.. Especially during a crisis.. Like when we find that SOME of the 8 or 12 variety of CV test kits have REALLY BAD detection performance.. And the public is not wise to that..

It's never a clean process... And since there were NO DRUGS "tested and approved when the PEAK hit for Covid -- the EVIDENCE on HCQ for Covid is MORE than adequate for me to make an informed decision...

Understand and agree. Lot of hoops to jump through. The system does not float like a butterfly and sting like a bee. Some things that do get through, like a popular prescription diet drug a few years back, get through, only to find unexpected damage to the users later. The system ain't foolproof. I have made my decision, as far as trying to get it as a preventative. I am better off with avoidance and enhanced hygiene. I will wait until it is recommended by my Doctor. Don't worry about me. My doctor is excellent and he is even a Republican, so if he thinks it's the way to go, I'm down with it.
I do hate it when people bring up "SOME of the 8 or 12 variety of CV test kits have REALLY BAD detection performance" , as I am not sure what is used at JMCGH as opposed to the state Medical Examiners labs in Nashville. I have still have not gone and been tested even for anti-bodies but still feel I have a personal stake that state and local results were accurate on swab and tissue tests. Do you know or have an informed opinion if tests for antibodies are accurate, or are they just as suspect as the active swab tests?

 

[zaangalewa]

Trump is taking hydroxychloroquine !

Good news for the people who hate Trump. Hydroxychloroquine is counterproductive in case of covid-19.

 

[Mac1958]

This piece explains this stuff pretty well: The Reason Donald Trump Will Take a Pill But Not Advice

“He thinks he’s the smartest guy on the planet,” former Trump Shuttle president Bruce Nobles told me Tuesday. “He really does.”

“It’s like when he used the Sharpie on that hurricane map,” said former Trump Organization executive vice president Barbara Res, referring to the episode last year in which Trump cartoonishly used a marker to alter a map of the path of a storm and then fought about it for a week rather than admit the smallest of mistakes.

And now with hydroxychloroquine? “He’s going to prove that he was right,” said Sam Nunberg, a former Trump political adviser, “when everybody else said he was wrong.”

“Allll about the base,” Republican strategist and Trump critic Rick Wilson told me in a text on Tuesday.

“He’s got to tell those people, ‘Of course I’m taking hydroxy,’” former Trump White House communications director Anthony Scaramucci explained. “‘They’re telling you it doesn’t work, but I’m telling you it does. I am your chief of the red tribe of Trump.’”

 

[Bobob]

and hes been taking it along with zink for nearly 2 weeks ! he just announced this during the news conference today ! he says he was prescribed the drug by the WH doctor and not only is he taking it many many front line workers and doctors are taking it and prescribing the drug to patients with good results ! if it comes out that this drug is an effective treatment for covid 19 and also a preventative from catching the virus dem governors with high death tolls that blocked the drugs being prescribed to patients will have a lot to answer for ! now the POTUS also said that its for healthy people in the early stages of the virus not those close to death or with severe underlying conditions . he aid he is also taking the drug in a low dose .

He probably got the "zink" and hydroxy off of Alex Jones website...
I mean, the guy sells everything else.

I'm sorry, what were we talking about that was political about this?
Hint, it may be effective if prescribed and taken after you've been diagnosed with the virus.

its in the political forum because democrats have made everything about the virus political !

No, the Dems have made it medical. Trump has made it political. He spent the ist two months blaming the Dems for the "hoax" and then closed the borders to the Chinese when the Europeans were flooding our borders.

What planet do you live on? Stop posting lies about the timeline.

The facts speak for themselves. There are no lies since the world was warned by the WHO in January about the virus. If you want to rewrite history, be my guest. Your grifter denied that there was a pandemic and blamed the Dems for a "hoax". Your boy is all over the place on this virus and says anything that will get you and your ilk's attention. He takes no advice and thinks that he knows more than the medical and scientific communities. That is
because he makes decisions based on his "gut", yes?

Hilarious watching you Leftards lie for your ChiCom masters.
Trumps letter is 100% accurate and history will forever record where everyone stood in this debacle.

There is no lie here, pal. In which sentence is there a lie? The WHO did indeed warn the world of the pandemic in January. Trump did indeed deny that there was a pandemic and blamed the Dems for a "hoax". Trump almost never
accepts advice unless it is what he wants to hear. He has dissed the medical and scientific communities time and again and has said that he makes decisions from his "gut". Where is the lie? There is none.

 

[Bobob]

and hes been taking it along with zink for nearly 2 weeks ! he just announced this during the news conference today ! he says he was prescribed the drug by the WH doctor and not only is he taking it many many front line workers and doctors are taking it and prescribing the drug to patients with good results ! if it comes out that this drug is an effective treatment for covid 19 and also a preventative from catching the virus dem governors with high death tolls that blocked the drugs being prescribed to patients will have a lot to answer for ! now the POTUS also said that its for healthy people in the early stages of the virus not those close to death or with severe underlying conditions . he aid he is also taking the drug in a low dose .

He probably got the "zink" and hydroxy off of Alex Jones website...
I mean, the guy sells everything else.

I'm sorry, what were we talking about that was political about this?
Hint, it may be effective if prescribed and taken after you've been diagnosed with the virus.

its in the political forum because democrats have made everything about the virus political !

No, the Dems have made it medical. Trump has made it political. He spent the ist two months blaming the Dems for the "hoax" and then closed the borders to the Chinese when the Europeans were flooding our borders.

What planet do you live on? Stop posting lies about the timeline.

The facts speak for themselves. There are no lies since the world was warned by the WHO in January about the virus. If you want to rewrite history, be my guest. Your grifter denied that there was a pandemic and blamed the Dems for a "hoax". Your boy is all over the place on this virus and says anything that will get you and your ilk's attention. He takes no advice and thinks that he knows more than the medical and scientific communities. That is
because he makes decisions based on his "gut", yes?

The WHO also told us:
1) the virus was not a threat
2) the virus was foodborne and did not come from a virology lab
3) it was not transmittable human to human.
4) it WAS transmittable human to human and it did come from a virology lab.
5) the Chinese had the situation under control
6) the Chinese did NOT have the situation under control.

Who were we supposed to believe?

That's right! According to you it was the WHO.

You got your info from Trump and you should know better. Of course, I believe the WHO since Trump never takes responsibility for his screw-ups and blames someone else.

THE CORONAVIRUS CRISIS
'We Alerted The World' To Coronavirus On Jan. 5, WHO Says In Response To U.S.

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Experts from the World Health Organization say they gave explicit warnings about the risks of the COVID-19 outbreak in early January. They said this after President Trump this week accused the agency of obscuring the truth. Above: the WHO's headquarters in Geneva.
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"We regret the decision of the president of the United States to order a halt in funding to the World Health Organization," WHO Direct0r-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said Wednesday in response to President Trump's plan to stop U.S. money from going to the agency.
The U.S. is the top contributor to the WHO, which is leading the fight against the COVID-19 global pandemic.
On Tuesday, Trump accused the WHO of "severely mismanaging and covering up the spread of the coronavirus." He also said the organization is overly influenced by China and was too trusting of that country, particularly in the early phase of the outbreak.
Through the middle of January, the president said, the WHO "parroted and publicly endorsed the idea that there was not human-to-human transmission happening despite reports and clear evidence to the contrary."
The president also said the health agency had delayed raising the alarm on the threat posed by the new coronavirus, which is now confirmed to have infected more than 2 million people.
Responding on Wednesday to a question about the U.S. accusations, Dr. Mike Ryan, executive director of the WHO's Health Emergencies Programme, said, "In the first weeks of January, the WHO was very, very clear."
"We alerted the world on January the 5th," Ryan said. "Systems around the world, including the U.S., began to activate their incident management systems on January the 6th. And through the next number of weeks, we've produced multiple updates to countries, including briefing multiple governments, multiple scientists around the world, on the developing situation — and that is what it was, a developing situation."

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Trump said the WHO had "deprived the scientific community of essential data," accusing it of failing to obtain virus samples.
To that charge, Ryan replied, "The virus was identified on January the 7th. The [genetic] sequence was shared on the 12th with the world."
As for the guidance about human-to-human spread of the new virus, Ryan noted that in initial reports, there was no mention of human-to-human transmission. But he also said, "There is always a risk with respiratory pathogen that it can move from person to person."
"When WHO issued its first guidance to countries, it was extremely clear that respiratory precautions should be taken in dealing with patients with this disease," Ryan said, "that labs needed to be careful in terms of their precautions and taking samples, because there was a risk that the disease could spread from person to person in those environments."

When are you going to stop supporting Trump's bad behavior? Trump didn't respond to the early warnings and waited 2 months to do anything. Blaming the WHO is just another example of Trump in full flight.

You apparently cannot read very well, This article backs up what I said, almost word for word.
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Almost word for word, eh? You must have been reading another story.
It does not back up what you said at all. It said that it warned that precautions should be taken, and nothing mentioned about no human to human transmission except that it could spread from person to person as is the risk with any virus of that nature. Again, Trump was blaming others for his screw-up. Regardless, he did say that the virus would not be coming to America because he had closed the borders and that it was a Democratic "hoax". What I gleaned from this article is that the warning was serious and needed to be addressed properly and not dissed by Trump. If there was clear evidence of human to human transmission as Trump remarked, why didn't Trump act on it? Blame the other guy. Why not because the uninformed will take his word no matter what. Shameful that people died because of Trump's ineptitude and refusal to take advice from experts.

Just because the WHO said they did something, it was all apparently lies because other countries knew nothing about it either! Their timeline is way off!

No, other countries responded immediately.


WHO warned of transmission risk in January, despite Trump ...
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Apr 9, 2020 - The World Health Organization warned the US and other countries about the ... the WHO for the pandemic, pointing to a tweet from the group on 14 January ... its emergency response structure two weeks later, on 21 January.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

5 more years to go! Don’t be getting any crazy ideas like jumping off a rooftop or eating fish cleaner!

I’m not a MAGAt; so, there should be no concern that I’ll take Trump’s advice on drinking cleaners.

Next 5 years are going to be hilarious.

They sure will. You MAGAts are going to be beside yourselves with grief with Biden in the White House.

The important question is, would he even know he's there?

 

[Jitss617]

This set off a trigger lol

 

[Blues Man]

His body his choice

Right?

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

and hes been taking it along with zink for nearly 2 weeks ! he just announced this during the news conference today ! he says he was prescribed the drug by the WH doctor and not only is he taking it many many front line workers and doctors are taking it and prescribing the drug to patients with good results ! if it comes out that this drug is an effective treatment for covid 19 and also a preventative from catching the virus dem governors with high death tolls that blocked the drugs being prescribed to patients will have a lot to answer for ! now the POTUS also said that its for healthy people in the early stages of the virus not those close to death or with severe underlying conditions . he aid he is also taking the drug in a low dose .

He probably got the "zink" and hydroxy off of Alex Jones website...
I mean, the guy sells everything else.

I'm sorry, what were we talking about that was political about this?
Hint, it may be effective if prescribed and taken after you've been diagnosed with the virus.

its in the political forum because democrats have made everything about the virus political !

No, the Dems have made it medical. Trump has made it political. He spent the ist two months blaming the Dems for the "hoax" and then closed the borders to the Chinese when the Europeans were flooding our borders.

What planet do you live on? Stop posting lies about the timeline.

The facts speak for themselves. There are no lies since the world was warned by the WHO in January about the virus. If you want to rewrite history, be my guest. Your grifter denied that there was a pandemic and blamed the Dems for a "hoax". Your boy is all over the place on this virus and says anything that will get you and your ilk's attention. He takes no advice and thinks that he knows more than the medical and scientific communities. That is
because he makes decisions based on his "gut", yes?

Hilarious watching you Leftards lie for your ChiCom masters.
Trumps letter is 100% accurate and history will forever record where everyone stood in this debacle.

There is no lie here, pal. In which sentence is there a lie? The WHO did indeed warn the world of the pandemic in January. Trump did indeed deny that there was a pandemic and blamed the Dems for a "hoax". Trump almost never
accepts advice unless it is what he wants to hear. He has dissed the medical and scientific communities time and again and has said that he makes decisions from his "gut". Where is the lie? There is none.

Hey Bobby, if Trump doesn't listen to the experts why has the country been shut down for 2 months?

 

[Kondor3]

...His body his choice Right?

It is incumbent and expected of the President of the United States, to set a good example for American Citizens.

Frivolously taking a drug shown to be useless for preventing or remediating COVOD-19 is an irresponsible abandonment of that example-setting principle.

Behavior 10,423 on the part of your Orange Baboon-God that violates that very principle.

Jesus-H-Tap-Dancing-Christ-on-a-Crutch, son... aren't you clowns getting tired of defending and propping him up a hundred times a week?

Sheesh.

Time to bring grace, sanity, competence and genuine leadership back to the White House.

Hurry, November 3rd.

 

[Blues Man]

...His body his choice Right?

It is incumbent and expected of the President of the United States, to set a good example for American Citizens.

Frivolously taking a drug shown to be useless for preventing or remediating COVOD-19 is an irresponsible abandonment of that example-setting principle.

Behavior 10,423 on the part of your Orange Baboon-God that violates that very principle.

Jesus-H-Tap-Dancing-Christ-on-a-Crutch, son... aren't you clowns getting tired of defending and propping him up a hundred times a week?

Sheesh.

Time to bring grace, sanity, competence and genuine leadership back to the White House.

Hurry, November 3rd.

HIS BODY HIS CHOICE

It's either true for everyone or it's not true at all

And FYI I didn't vote for Trump and I'm not really a fan.

But you are a fucking hypocrite if you think my body my choice only applies when you approve

 

[Jitss617]

Frivolously taking a drug shown to be useless for preventing or remediating COVOD-19 is an irresponsible abandonment of that example-setting principle.

Almost every ER doctor in America is taking this drug To prevent getting sick.. do some
Research