flacaltenn
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Oh, on treatment I agree. I do not ask my doctor for specific drug treatments, as he is a class act I have been to for years, but as I told someone else on a similar thread or even possibly this one, If my doctor (and it will be my doctor) sees me at the hospital here in town and says "*****" I want to try Hydroxychloroquin on you, I'm down with it. As for trying to get into a clinical trial to try the drug on the chance that I might come in contact and become infected? NO. He would never suggest it in the first place if I wasn't sick. Have you read the complete monogram from the PDR on Hydroxychloroquine? It's been around 17 years or so and has known dangers.I read every article you posted and understand that it is in testing for use as a preventative, but nobody in any of those was willing to say more than it is an attractive idea, but not proven.
PROVEN -- in science -- is an illusive thing.. Because science is actually VERY SLOW... And during a time when 10s of 1000s of lives are in the balance -- sometimes you have to call some audibles.. Like with face masks for instance.. STILL not proven to be effective -- but REQUIRED BY LAW in many places...
This whole experience LAYS BARE how slowly and non-exactly science works... We DO NOT STILL KNOW the "death rate"" from Covid 19.,.. Dont have a CLUE how many have actually been infected...
But we DO KNOW how slim the "treatment options" are for this disease. And ranting about political implications of one of the more USED drugs in this fight -- makes you look foolish...
If 10s of thousands of front line workers are NOW BEING STUDIED for using HCQuine as a preventative -- ----- listen carefully ----
------ that's all the "science" you're gonna get if you're suddenly getting worse WITHOUT HCQuine and looking at your will and testament..
All this hype about Remdesivir is the same horseshit.. DID NOT prevent any deaths in it's 1st puny trial.. BARELY made an effect on the time to recover.. That's again -- ALL the science you're gonna get right now,,,,
BUT -- The POLITICAL HOWLING AND GNASHING of teeth on this is endless and frightening..
No man -- you're all screwed up with bad info... HCQ has been AROUND for SIXTY FIVE fucking years. Not 17.. It's in the top 50 most prescribed drugs in the world every one of those years.. They manufacture something like 8 Metrics TONS of it A MONTH.. It's routinely used not just for malaria prevention but for RhArthritis and Lupus.. And I've heard SEVERAL of those specialists state that they've NEVER had a patient with serious complications from the drug..
THOSE are FACTS...
As far as whatever you THINK YOU read in the PDR -- like all drugs, it's ALL about dose.. For malaria control, it's 200mg/day.. I've been on it twice in my world travels.. The good covid results have been found with 400mg/day... It's ONLY when you get to 600mg for extended days that ANY of heart issues start to appear...
So -- there's been some REALLY bad (scientifically) studies.. The Brazil study found heart issues at 600mg/day.. DUUHHH.. The fucked up VA study was on patients just about to go on respirators.. If you use it EARLY for Covid, like THOUSANDS of doctors in the fight have done, it DOES shorten the time to recovery.,..
INTERESTINGLY -- Some of the RhArthritis and Lupus docs have POLLED their current patients.. And with a few EXCEPTIONS -- maybe one or two -- The VAST majority of 10s of thousands of people taking HCQuine prophylactically for those diseases have NOT contracted reported cases of Covid 19... The GOOD studies show a definite decrease in time to end of symptoms...